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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-12-08, 17:33
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AlittleLESSteeth 
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Ayahuasca?
hey bltc long time reader first time poster.
i was waiting for a good question i had before i registered.
anyways.. ayahuasca. anyone have any experience with this? i was considering ordering some after reading about it, but am kinda skeptical as to if its worth the money or not.
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#2
 2008-12-08, 18:24
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Re: Ayahuasca?
anyone have any experience with this?
Check the experience vaults - http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Ayahuasca.shtml
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#3
 2008-12-08, 20:36
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Re: Ayahuasca?
Depends how you decide to make it. Do you want the spiritual experience per se, or would you just like to try another drug? If the former, I think McKenna has an indigenously inspired recipe that you can do at home with some ingredients you can find on ebay. If the latter then just take oral DMT with some extracted harmala alkaloids. The effects are essentially the same, but the b. caapi in the "real ayahuasca" contains other psychoactives as well as different ratios of harmaline/harmine, so the flavour of the experience is different. If you don't have a massive stone urn then just reduce the b. caapi to a resin/oil (I forget) and take that with p. viridis which has also been reduced. Same chemicals, different experience.
One thing to mention here is that there have been federal inquiries into and customs stops of p. viridis and b. caapi shipments (see: microgram (http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/journal_v1/mjournal_v1_pg3.html)), so if at all possible, just buy some harmala seeds and MHRB. Do extract the alkaloids from the MHRB, and encapsulate them; taking the whole mixture is very nasty-tasting, though allegedly it does provide a different experience (this, however, does not bear with the facts of the composition of the alkaloids, more research is needed). If you're going to buy p. viridis, your best bet is to make some ayahuasca, but if you don't care about the source of your DMT, then just use MHRB and p. harmala.
BTW, there are plenty of threads on ayahuasca, do search for them.
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#4
 2008-12-08, 20:44
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Re: Ayahuasca?
Aya fucked my world. I would recommend smoking DMT first, just so you're more antiquated with the amount of fucked you'll be. It helped me, at least.
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#5
 2008-12-08, 20:49
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Re: Ayahuasca?
i smoked it once and i think i'm still trying to get used to it. i'm going to try parmahuasca as soon as i read up some more on mao-i and diets. i'll let you know how that goes.
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