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Old 2008-12-02, 08:13
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butfuck egipt
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ok so i was most defiantly looking into this but erowid doesnt even seem to have trip reports, so i was wondering if anyone else had tryd it here on totse. a quick wiki search showd me "CP 55,940 is 45 times more potent than Δ9-THC) but when i started doing the math i realized that i must be very sensetive to this chemical.

to give you an idea of how much thc it takes me to get as high as i can get i will explain the amount i smoke and thus the amount of thc needed for me. now i stated in another thread i usually smoke half a point in my little bowl thats 50mg. but i do not need to smoke that much for full effects i can get high with no exageration 7-10 flakes of high grade regos. thats probually around 5-7mg. now i know the actual content cant be more than 9% and thats giving a huge benefit of the doubt.

this meens i only need around half a mg of thc for ful effects...if CP 55,940 is ""45"" times stronger than 9THC god i must only need a few ug.

if all this is true then i would need less CP than i would lsd to trip. would i not?
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Old 2008-12-02, 08:27
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You are just a bitch noob. For real.

THC at best is only 25% of marijuana.

You think that you only need less than 10mg of chronic, so you are smoking less than 2.5mg THC to get high? You also need to factor in that burning marijuana wastes 75% THC. So you really are getting high from .5mg THC.

You are wrong with your math.

I smoked CP one time. I vaporized roughly 2.5mg, and then 2.5mg about 30 seconds later.

Usually when I smoke pot I can feel it right away. After not feeling the first 2.5mg at all, I smoked the remaining 2.5mg.

I was fucking loaded for about 4-6 solid hours. It pretty much feels like a gnarly sativa rush/energy without any euphoria what so ever in your head, and an extream indica high in your body. But you are not tired in any way. In fact you actually can't get to sleep.

It seems like its best use would be medical because recreationally it isn't that great although it is worth a try.
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Old 2008-12-02, 08:27
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i honestly did my whole bag because by the time it gets to you its almost all degraded so really you're set.
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Old 2008-12-02, 08:31
penguinjam penguinjam is offline
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you said you can get high off 5mg weed? that would mean you could get 200 doses from one dimebag, and somehow, I highly doubt that.

also, you said you would need a few ug of cp,55940 to get high. let's say three. x 45 means you would getting high off 135ug thc, and I extremely doubt that.
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Old 2008-12-02, 08:33
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That theory has been disregarded.

It actually doesn't degrade if it is not in a freezer for 5-14 days, at all. Probally will start to degrade after a few months, though.

Wikipedia just blows up how potent it is. It takes more than 1mg to get high. If you are smoking it instead of vaporizing it you will waste a lot. If you suck at vaporizing which I assume you are then you will waste it.
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Old 2008-12-02, 09:10
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butfuck egipt
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Originally Posted by TheBlackPope
You are just a bitch noob. For real.

THC at best is only 25% of marijuana.

You think that you only need less than 10mg of chronic, so you are smoking less than 2.5mg THC to get high? You also need to factor in that burning marijuana wastes 75% THC. So you really are getting high from .5mg THC.

You are wrong with your math.

I smoked CP one time. I vaporized roughly 2.5mg, and then 2.5mg about 30 seconds later.

Usually when I smoke pot I can feel it right away. After not feeling the first 2.5mg at all, I smoked the remaining 2.5mg.

I was fucking loaded for about 4-6 solid hours. It pretty much feels like a gnarly sativa rush/energy without any euphoria what so ever in your head, and an extream indica high in your body. But you are not tired in any way. In fact you actually can't get to sleep.

It seems like its best use would be medical because recreationally it isn't that great although it is worth a try.


u say my math is wrong but that is the number i came up with around 0.05 mg. and i always thought lsd was the most powerful drug molecular weight wise for spychadelics because i took less im coming to the
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Old 2008-12-02, 09:12
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no really i am quite expierenced in vaporizing. even in my glass bowl i learned to take vaporizing the bud to a new level. it isnt as good as my light bulb. but i can litterally keep green weed the whole bowl down. just moving the front to the back works amazing. my lighter never touches the bud so as to avoid combustion and to those that are skeptical then o well. but honestly 5-10 mg gets me backed for an hour or so. its quite usful as smoking takes almost no time. but even though that is just flakes of weed its all i need honestly.

im not here to say how big my dick is. its a tiny little proces but i swear to god yes i could get maybe 150 highs from a dime bag.
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Old 2008-12-02, 09:14
penguinjam penguinjam is offline
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u say my math is wrong but that is the number i came up with around 0.05 mg. and i always thought lsd was the most powerful drug molecular weight wise for spychadelics because i took less im coming to the

that would mean you would be able to get high off 225ug thc - which is not possible.

yes i could get maybe 150 highs from a dime bag. bullshit
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Old 2008-12-02, 11:30
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and no its not BS you cant exactly tell me what i get high off of i truly have no reason to lie it just took alot of patience and time. some times i wish people saw how much i smoke to get high, but hey your going to have to take my word from it. i feel a light to medium high AS SOON as i exhale after holding the first hit bye the end of 3 or 4 im so toasted its like my first shroom trip,
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Old 2008-12-02, 11:55
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The guy probably has a meth addiction and weighs 80lbs

-Smokes some meth-
-Smokes a tiny bit of pot-
ahh, I'm so fucking high right now from just 5mg of pot
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Old 2008-12-02, 12:05
illuminatikiller illuminatikiller is offline
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That stuff is expensive :(
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Old 2008-12-02, 12:44
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if you are using the same rc site i am...damn canadians. then yes it seems expensive but with my tollerance its seeming like it really isnt all that exp. no way am i gonna have to take a whole mg maybe .5mg prolly at most so thats really only 50 cents per high. and it lasts forever. soooo....trying it out 4 sure now. and sorry but....


FUCK YOU i split .1 in half then in half again and im so fucking high right now its rediculous/ i dont think i should have smoked this much.so what is that .025mg/10% im sure this pot does not have 10% its just some nice high estimate. so giving it that benefite of the doubt i smoked .0025% correct of thc? is this math a little better?

and yes to all you sceptics i have learned how to induce a psychedelic expierence with VERY minute amounts of green stuff. but hey if u tell ur self u wont get high then damn right u wont. u create your own reality. end of story. sorry u have to spend so much money on the ...other consumer shit they sell
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Old 2008-12-02, 13:39
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you can't will a chemical reaction
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Old 2008-12-02, 14:22
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My 12 year old nephew can handle more than .05mg. You must be a 50lb girl
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Old 2008-12-02, 17:42
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butfuck egipt
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if ANY bit of the chemical is your body then the reaction is going on it all depends on how sensetive your own awarness is. i kno that i can get high off that small amount. but i only smoke every other day or so. but any ways fuck all you. seriously fuck all you.
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Old 2008-12-02, 17:47
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We believe you can get high off small amounts too! However it isn't because you have more self awareness its because...
You must be a 50lb girl
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Old 2008-12-02, 21:22
penguinjam penguinjam is offline
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FUCK YOU i split .1 in half then in half again and im so fucking high right now its rediculous/ i dont think i should have smoked this much.so what is that .025mg/10% im sure this pot does not have 10% its just some nice high estimate. so giving it that benefite of the doubt i smoked .0025% correct of thc? is this math a little better?

and yes to all you sceptics i have learned how to induce a psychedelic expierence with VERY minute amounts of green stuff. but hey if u tell ur self u wont get high then damn right u wont. u create your own reality. end of story. sorry u have to spend so much money on the ...other consumer shit they sell

jesus fucking christ

.1g = 100mg /2 = 50mg /2=25mg

not fucking .025mg

and a percentage isn't a fucking amount

10% of 25mg is 2.5mg

not fucking .0025% correct of thc

you keep changing your fucking numbers

and that is complete fucking bullshit
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Old 2008-12-02, 21:27
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guys relax. the real question is; where to get some?
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Old 2008-12-02, 21:31
penguinjam penguinjam is offline
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google search?

it's on the first page but it's expensive as hell.
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Old 2008-12-02, 21:59
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Originally Posted by hedblown
ok so i was most defiantly looking into this but erowid doesnt even seem to have trip reports, so i was wondering if anyone else had tryd it here on totse. a quick wiki search showd me "CP 55,940 is 45 times more potent than Δ9-THC) but when i started doing the math i realized that i must be very sensetive to this chemical.

to give you an idea of how much thc it takes me to get as high as i can get i will explain the amount i smoke and thus the amount of thc needed for me. now i stated in another thread i usually smoke half a point in my little bowl thats 50mg. but i do not need to smoke that much for full effects i can get high with no exageration 7-10 flakes of high grade regos. thats probually around 5-7mg. now i know the actual content cant be more than 9% and thats giving a huge benefit of the doubt.

this meens i only need around half a mg of thc for ful effects...if CP 55,940 is ""45"" times stronger than 9THC god i must only need a few ug.

if all this is true then i would need less CP than i would lsd to trip. would i not?


I have always heard there was 10-50mgs of thc in a joint. how the fuck are you going to tell me that a half mg of thc is going to get you high. that is just bs.
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Old 2008-12-02, 22:07
penguinjam penguinjam is offline
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^ not to mention marinol contains 10mg thc

if what hedblown was saying was true, then taking your recommended dose of it would get you WASTED. regardless of the fact oral bioavailability is lower than inhalation.
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Old 2008-12-03, 01:00
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ok sorry about the math last night. i was on phentermine last night and it seemd to be very disorientating. i reread all my shit from last night and i loled i really wasnt coherent at all.but seriously im sorry it does only take me 25mg of dryed rego plant material to get high. if your argueing with me that i dont get high well then your seriously an idiot. and no i do not get higher by smoking more if i smoke a "joint" the peak just lasts twice as long. and now to get all of you flaming like crazy.

when i smoke my 25mg of plant material my g/f ocasionally smokes with me but she doesnt hit the bowl. o no she takes "1" exhale from me. thats right just one. and she gets so fucking giddy. i think some major research needs to be done. because thc/everythingelse is potent in VERY small amounts.
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Old 2008-12-03, 01:06
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o and 1 more thing.

male/20 yr old/ 140 lbs.

and who ever was the fucking moron who said you cant will a chemical reaction is just that a fucking moron.
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Old 2008-12-03, 01:44
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ok sorry about the math last night. i was on phentermine last night and it seemd to be very disorientating. i reread all my shit from last night and i loled i really wasnt coherent at all.but seriously im sorry it does only take me 25mg of dryed rego plant material to get high. if your argueing with me that i dont get high well then your seriously an idiot. and no i do not get higher by smoking more if i smoke a "joint" the peak just lasts twice as long. and now to get all of you flaming like crazy.

when i smoke my 25mg of plant material my g/f ocasionally smokes with me but she doesnt hit the bowl. o no she takes "1" exhale from me. thats right just one. and she gets so fucking giddy. i think some major research needs to be done. because thc/everythingelse is potent in VERY small amounts.


and who ever was the fucking moron who said you cant will a chemical reaction is just that a fucking moron. hahaha

ya just pwned yourself

you think you can will it,

thus,

YOU GOT PLACEBOWND
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Old 2008-12-03, 01:55
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u are an idiot then to. you obviously dont understand how powerful our minds are. we have the power to "will" many things and you sir have quite obviouslly never truelly let go of your little ego mania world you built when you were 10 years old.
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Old 2008-12-03, 02:04
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u are an idiot then to. you obviously dont understand how powerful our minds are. we have the power to "will" many things and you sir have quite obviouslly never truelly let go of your little ego mania world you built when you were 10 years old.


it's called a placebo dipshit

you can will a placebo, but placebo =/= being high.

edit: by 'will' I mean something has to happen that you think will have an effect
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Old 2008-12-03, 02:05
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My god are you retarded.
Do you understand you are saying that you can think about a chemical reaction happening in your body and that reaction actually happening just because you think it is.
It's called placebo you moron! Also don't try blaming those stupid words coming from your computer on some drug you were on. Faggot.
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Old 2008-12-03, 02:17
penguinjam penguinjam is offline
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My god are you retarded.
Do you understand you are saying that you can think about a chemical reaction happening in your body and that reaction actually happening just because you think it is.
It's called placebo you moron! Also don't try blaming those stupid words coming from your computer on some drug you were on. Faggot.


hate to disagree, but placebos are actually very real effects. hence why they are always part of clinical studies. they have a higher rate of curing sickness than nothing at all.

but regardless, placebo =/= being high.

but, you can't really just 'will' it. something has to happen that you think will have an effect, whether a medicine to cure your illness or a drug to get you high.

finally, placebo =/= being high!!! (twas directed at hedblown.)
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Old 2008-12-03, 02:18
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you are pretending to smoke weed and then pretending youre high
i hope for your sake you are just a terrible troll
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Old 2008-12-03, 02:36
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have you ever smoked over a gram?
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Old 2008-12-03, 02:43
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butfuck egipt
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what ever you guys live in the reality you live in and i will live in the reality that god has created for me. limitless possibilities.

how about an example.

now i want you to think back. far back to one of your favorite memmories. now did you "feel" that happyness you felt back when? well of course you did now guess what just happend in your brain when you became excited? thats right a chemical reaction.

meditation can bring your mind and body to complete harmony. i dont have the reffrence but some anthrapologist introduced lsd to a group of monks. they said they had found ways to meditate that took them much farther.

im sorry that modern science has not accepted this fact YET but YES we can alter our perceptions on reality through pure will.

and no im not saying i have reached enlightenment. but i have learned a behavior that is quite helpful. i have smoked so much pot that its effects are permanently imbeded in my concious. the thc has changed my bio chemistry possibly forever (im not quiting so yeah) so even if i dont find my path down my own spirit path to concur the need of mind altering substances, i will always be able to expierence intense meditation sit downs with minute amounts of bud.

and its not placebo. i put a drug into my body. im just able to focus my mind on the expierence. its like all those fuck ass morons in this world that will never truelly experience hallucinations. o sure they might see the walls breath or maybe a little fractal fireworks, but never will they let go of there ego and fall into all that is,was and could have been. they will never experience infanant realitys. they will never see the white.
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Old 2008-12-03, 03:01
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you're retarded.
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Old 2008-12-03, 03:14
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ok another question for the skeptics.

have you ever heard of one hitter quitter weed? obviously im just using a very broad term for VERY good weed. well have you ever took a hit of good weed and just sat there like GODDAMN? because if you have then your a hypocryte. because you know that was only 20-23% potent. and im sorry one hit of weed does not weigh that much.
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Old 2008-12-03, 04:56
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you can't will a chemical reaction


Tell that to the yogis.
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Old 2008-12-03, 05:02
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one hit =/= 25mg

you're saying that the willpower of your mind lets you get high off 25mg weed. (placebo)

you're also saying that what you feel are real effects from the drug. (not placebo)

WOW

you are arguing how powerful placebos can be yet you are saying your effects were not placebo. why argue both points?

now I know you're gonna say the effects were real and you're mind was amplifying them. but any real effects were not enough to notice, anything you felt was placebo.

also, this oddly reminds me of this thread

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2175370&highlight=smoking+cocaine
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Old 2008-12-03, 05:40
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you're retarded.

you're just an ignorant piece of shit. i assume you're a scientist at heart and you cannot accept something so abstract without proof, or scientific explanation(usually taken for proof, yet rarely is proof). science just describes, the best it can, processes that occur in nature to try to get to the bottom of things and more efficiently manipulate nature(technology). well have you ever taken a science course? physics, high level math, anthropology, philosophy? any of those? well, you ignorant fuck, i have because i'm a science student, and let me tell you--people don't actually know shit about anything. philosophers have been having a really tough time proving the existence of reality, and physicists-while trying to describe things on a quantum level-cannot actually confirm that matter even exists. the spiritual plain is the only place we have left to look, it would be absurd to overlook it considering much more stable societies than ours(think indians) have been relying on it for healing and enlightenment for thousands, upon thousands of years. you have to understand that by calling him a retard, you've made the assumption that what he believes is not true-thus labeling yourself a retard by default because the fact is, no one really knows. science is not the truth, it just tries to get there in a similar,yet more applicable to our society(the west) way religion does. thats why you think science is truth. just because your culture conditioned you to think a certain way doesn't mean he's retarded, it means that you're just an ignorant piece of shit.
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Old 2008-12-03, 07:02
penguinjam penguinjam is offline
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you're just an ignorant piece of shit. i assume you're a scientist at heart and you cannot accept something so abstract without proof, or scientific explanation(usually taken for proof, yet rarely is proof). science just describes, the best it can, processes that occur in nature to try to get to the bottom of things and more efficiently manipulate nature(technology). well have you ever taken a science course? physics, high level math, anthropology, philosophy? any of those? well, you ignorant fuck, i have because i'm a science student, and let me tell you--people don't actually know shit about anything. philosophers have been having a really tough time proving the existence of reality, and physicists-while trying to describe things on a quantum level-cannot actually confirm that matter even exists. the spiritual plain is the only place we have left to look, it would be absurd to overlook it considering much more stable societies than ours(think indians) have been relying on it for healing and enlightenment for thousands, upon thousands of years. you have to understand that by calling him a retard, you've made the assumption that what he believes is not true-thus labeling yourself a retard by default because the fact is, no one really knows. science is not the truth, it just tries to get there in a similar,yet more applicable to our society(the west) way religion does. thats why you think science is truth. just because your culture conditioned you to think a certain way doesn't mean he's retarded, it means that you're just an ignorant piece of shit.

look, I agree with you for the most part, but that doesn't make complete bullshit true. If it did, then by that logic I could make acid for big red and oranges, as well as bread and windex, I could grow shrooms out of my ass, I could make meth from gun bluing, ect. not to mention I could get coked out from cocaine residue on dollar bills. anything would be possible, and well, that's just a little out of reality for me.
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Old 2008-12-03, 07:06
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[QUOTE=TheBlackPope;10753181]


I was fucking loaded for about 4-6 solid hours. It pretty much feels like a gnarly sativa rush/energy without any euphoria what so ever in your head, and an extream indica high in your body. But you are not tired in any way. In fact you actually can't get to sleep. QUOTE]

This sounds like a little bit of snorted heroin gor me.....
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Old 2008-12-03, 07:12
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This sounds like a little bit of snorted heroin gor me.....

gor? what? heroin gives you euphoria and makes you sleepy.
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Old 2008-12-03, 14:28
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Well, first of all, I'm not defending OP. He's an idiot, for sure.

But you can will chemical reactions. It's like breathing or beating your heart; you do it subconsciously, but you can bring it to the conscious mind too.

I know this because I have learned to control my liver enzymes to some extent and affect my metabolism. I can inject a lethal dose of fentanyl and make myself metabolize it quickly enough to stay alive.

mike
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Old 2008-12-03, 15:06
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i love this shit i ordered a .1 of it for $125 (which i thought was ridiculous at the time)

but that .1 lasted me 3 weeks. one keybump would have me seeing shit, i was beyond faded. no words can comprehend the high i got off this shit as far as a weed high goes. it was more intense than one could ever imagine for the amount used to produce such effects.

i've ordered a total of 4 seperate batches now since, even though it's outrageously priced.

i recommend it fully

10/10
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Old 2008-12-03, 16:28
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i love this shit i ordered a .1 of it for $125 (which i thought was ridiculous at the time)

but that .1 lasted me 3 weeks. one keybump would have me seeing shit, i was beyond faded. no words can comprehend the high i got off this shit as far as a weed high goes. it was more intense than one could ever imagine for the amount used to produce such effects.

i've ordered a total of 4 seperate batches now since, even though it's outrageously priced.

i recommend it fully

10/10


thats cool. but i really enjoy smoking plant matter with drugs in it, not just the drugs. maybe someday if my baby becomes a bomb ass chemist or if i have the disposable income or both.
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Old 2008-12-03, 16:48
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od was mentioned earlyer. so i was wondering if anyone had any first hand exp on this? its probually almost impossible/have to take hella lot huh?
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Old 2008-12-03, 18:07
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look, I agree with you for the most part, but that doesn't make complete bullshit true. If it did, then by that logic I could make acid for big red and oranges, as well as bread and windex, I could grow shrooms out of my ass, I could make meth from gun bluing, ect. not to mention I could get coked out from cocaine residue on dollar bills. anything would be possible, and well, that's just a little out of reality for me.

well there are absolute truths, like evaporating and scraping windex residue will not get you lsd-or whatever the fuck the original post was. but that doesn't mean that there isn't another, a more simple way for getting the compound-thats the logic.
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Old 2008-12-03, 18:37
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well there are absolute truths, like evaporating and scraping windex residue will not get you lsd-or whatever the fuck the original post was. but that doesn't mean that there isn't another, a more simple way for getting the compound-thats the logic.

so who decides what is and is not an absolute truth? Shit like that obviously bullshit, but what about stuff that falls into the gray area of being possible? as for the lsd, the easier that undiscovered method is the higher the chance that it doesn't exist.

and if you guys want to talk about willing a chemical reaction in that way, then no fucking shit every time you fucking move that's a chemical reaction that you started. It will not get you high though.
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Old 2008-12-03, 18:57
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i think i was replying to the guy the called the guy who was talking about god a retard. so now i'm confused as to what exactly the debate is. i just want people to admit their ignorance and stop trying to be arrogant fucks that go around claiming to one up someone with their knowledge, because i feel no one knows shit.
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Old 2008-12-03, 19:09
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damn strait dummy. and there is no debate. i get high. end of story. one day we will evolve past the need for triggers. thats all drugs do. all the information that is needed to experience a "high" is already there... if people can will there body to destroy cancer ( yes. thats right there IS documented cases of people curing them selves with pure will) im quite certain we have the power to induce dopamine release etc...
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Old 2008-12-03, 19:17
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well then, I think we can all stop trying to convince a thick skulled dumbfuck that he can't get high off 25mg weed and get back on topic...

also,

one day we will evolve past the need for triggersrefs?

if people can will there body to destroy cancer ( yes. thats right there IS documented cases of people curing them selves with pure will)I think that called when cancer goes into remission. did you know that cancer cells are created in your body every everyday and your body kills them off without you knowing?

im quite certain we have the power to induce dopamine release etc... dopamine release =/= being high

quit fucking arguing and get back on topic.
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Old 2008-12-03, 19:47
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i cant reffrence the future.... but your right back on topic.

1 mg seems to be the all around starting point. so what would you (who ever has tryd it) compare that high to, incomparison to medium grade " REGULAR" weed? would one go so far as to say 1 gram?

and to the guy that payed $125 for 100mg if you are reading this i would like to know how fast your delivery was. im not asking for the source i just want to know how fast they ship ( im quite certain i know the source as mine is priced exactly the same)

aim: "death 2 the sane"
email: vansjungle1966@gmail.com
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Old 2008-12-03, 19:54
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hedblown, you make me sad =[
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Old 2008-12-03, 20:10
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but your right back on topic.thank you

1 mg seems to be the all around starting point. so what would you (who ever has tryd it) compare that high to, incomparison to medium grade " REGULAR" weed? would one go so far as to say 1 gram?typical dose of weed is .5g

assuming that's 10% cannabinoids, that is 50mg cannabinoids.

assuming CP 55,940 is 45x more potent,

1.11111mg CP 55,940 = 50mg cannabinoids.

theoretically.

to be safe, one could start out with a little less than 1mg to see how you react.
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Old 2008-12-03, 20:17
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a reference? really? you didn't read anything i wrote?
william james argued that one can believe something without any sort of definitive evidence. people do it all the time, and the mans status is hard to argue with. if you need a reference take a meditation class.
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Old 2008-12-03, 20:27
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meh

not to get into this again,

but ya gotta have limits.

i.e. is there a giant pizza monster just cause you can't prove or disprove it?

that's what I thought.
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Old 2008-12-03, 20:31
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my limit is my admission of ignorance. that doesn't sound likely to me, but maybe there is a group of people out there who are certain of it's existence and even pray to the giant pizza monster..
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Old 2008-12-03, 20:39
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dummy lol forget about it. but thank you. like i said before lets just get back on topic.
shit people dont believe in telekinesis but fuck that i have personally witnessed a phenomenon that involved a single hairmove across the room into a mans hand. please dont argue about this it was just something i wanted to say. i know the explanations that could be said. i didnt want to believe it but. it wasnt a fluke he set out to do this and the power of lsd made it come to the reality we both shared.

topic. .5 you say huh? i saw your math and the only question i have is: how much of those canabanoids are thc? yes i know it depends on many factors and there is no way you can tell as each bud is diffrent even from the same plant. but for the sake of reasoning how much would you say is a nice average? because some of those canabinoids are near worthless/ only slightly effect the high.
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Old 2008-12-03, 21:01
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dummy lol forget about it. but thank you. like i said before lets just get back on topic.
shit people dont believe in telekinesis but fuck that i have personally witnessed a phenomenon that involved a single hairmove across the room into a mans hand. please dont argue about this it was just something i wanted to say. i know the explanations that could be said. i didnt want to believe it but. it wasnt a fluke he set out to do this and the power of lsd made it come to the reality we both shared.

topic. .5 you say huh? i saw your math and the only question i have is: how much of those canabanoids are thc? yes i know it depends on many factors and there is no way you can tell as each bud is diffrent even from the same plant. but for the sake of reasoning how much would you say is a nice average? because some of those canabinoids are near worthless/ only slightly effect the high.


very well, for the sake of this thread, I won't argue

now, even though thc is the main factor, weed wouldn't be that recreational if it wasn't for the other cannabinoids. you would still get high, but it wouldn't be as much fun.

that said, thc content in weed can be anywhere from 1 - 22% thc, possibly even higher.
but that is well outside the 10% cannabinoids that we are going with.

with weed that has 10% cannabinoids, I'll take an educated guess and say that the thc content of those cannabinoids would be most likely anywhere from 40 - 90% thc, but possibly even outside of that range. but assuming it is, then with our example of .5g 10% cannabinoid weed we would have anywhere from 20 - 45mg thc.

however it very well could be outside of that range.
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Old 2008-12-03, 21:19
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hm so then we are saying that 100mg of this is = to around 2 ounces of regular weed.

this seems to be quite economicly friendly/ highly profitable
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Old 2008-12-03, 21:30
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to be exact, 45g

now, is vaporization required, or could you just add to some weed?

apparently it degrades with heat?

so then vaping would be a less wasteful way...

hmmm... I may have to try this sometime...
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Old 2008-12-03, 23:00
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what ever you guys live in the reality you live in and i will live in the reality that god has created for me. limitless possibilities.

how about an example.

now i want you to think back. far back to one of your favorite memmories. now did you "feel" that happyness you felt back when? well of course you did now guess what just happend in your brain when you became excited? thats right a chemical reaction.

meditation can bring your mind and body to complete harmony. i dont have the reffrence but some anthrapologist introduced lsd to a group of monks. they said they had found ways to meditate that took them much farther.

im sorry that modern science has not accepted this fact YET but YES we can alter our perceptions on reality through pure will.

and no im not saying i have reached enlightenment. but i have learned a behavior that is quite helpful. i have smoked so much pot that its effects are permanently imbeded in my concious. the thc has changed my bio chemistry possibly forever (im not quiting so yeah) so even if i dont find my path down my own spirit path to concur the need of mind altering substances, i will always be able to expierence intense meditation sit downs with minute amounts of bud.

and its not placebo. i put a drug into my body. im just able to focus my mind on the expierence. its like all those fuck ass morons in this world that will never truelly experience hallucinations. o sure they might see the walls breath or maybe a little fractal fireworks, but never will they let go of there ego and fall into all that is,was and could have been. they will never experience infanant realitys. they will never see the white.


You are one fucking stupid motherfucker.
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Old 2008-12-03, 23:11
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You are one fucking stupid motherfucker.

have you heard of meditation? you ignorant fuck? go back to where you came from, you aren't welcome on this fine site..
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Old 2008-12-03, 23:44
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lol again thank you. man dont you know men are way to good for that gay shit. we can think about stuff when were watchin the game on the tube.

meditation is quite unknown to the average drug user in amerika"fuck yeah"
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Old 2008-12-03, 23:55
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i know what you mean. you cannot try to relate to a drug user or non drug user if they have no interest in truth, they'll think you're crazy.
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Old 2008-12-04, 00:00
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well i think ive convinced myself i am getting myself some of this stuff. o now its just the long wait...wish they were faster with shipping.
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Old 2008-12-04, 05:06
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I know this because I have learned to control my liver enzymes to some extent and affect my metabolism. I can inject a lethal dose of fentanyl and make myself metabolize it quickly enough to stay alive.

mike


have you tried?
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Old 2008-12-04, 05:09
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^ i'd really like to see a video of this
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Old 2008-12-09, 08:43
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Originally Posted by mksnowboarder
Well, first of all, I'm not defending OP. He's an idiot, for sure.

But you can will chemical reactions. It's like breathing or beating your heart; you do it subconsciously, but you can bring it to the conscious mind too.

I know this because I have learned to control my liver enzymes to some extent and affect my metabolism. I can inject a lethal dose of fentanyl and make myself metabolize it quickly enough to stay alive.

mike


Faggot.
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Old 2008-12-09, 08:45
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Faggot.

umm you bumped this thread just to call him a faggot?
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Old 2008-12-09, 08:47
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thank you

typical dose of weed is .5g

assuming that's 10% cannabinoids, that is 50mg cannabinoids.

assuming CP 55,940 is 45x more potent,

1.11111mg CP 55,940 = 50mg cannabinoids.

theoretically.

to be safe, one could start out with a little less than 1mg to see how you react.

Just because you smoke shitty weed doesn't mean everyone else does.

Medical marijuana on the west coast is all 20-25% THC, typical dose from marijuana is .1-.25g but of course you always smoke MAOR POT!
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Old 2008-12-09, 08:50
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Just because you smoke shitty weed doesn't mean everyone else does.

Medical marijuana on the west coast is all 20-25% THC, typical dose from marijuana is .1-.25g but of course you always smoke MAOR POT!

jesus fuck man I was going with an average...

may I ask, what psychoactive chemical are on right now?
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Old 2008-12-09, 17:00
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hahaha

ya just pwned yourself

you think you can will it,

thus,

YOU GOT PLACEBOWND

Aw snap!

So far Cayman Chemical has the best prices that I've seen. Anyone got better? How much of this stuff do you need to vape to get high again? And how do you vape? Just hold heat to a clear light bulb?
 #71 
Old 2008-12-09, 19:42
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jesus dude did you even read the thread? that was already covered...

vape with a lightbulb, tin foil, ect...

1.11111mg CP 55,940 = 50mg cannabinoids.
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Old 2008-12-16, 07:25
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hey guys you are all dumb fucking bitch ass faggots, mdma is not a upper/stimulant i know this because I think i am smarter than everyone.

5char.
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Old 2008-12-16, 07:37
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5char.

fuck...

I guess I'm a dumb fucking bitch ass faggot now:(...
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Old 2008-12-16, 10:20
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im sorry that modern science has not accepted this fact YET but YES we can alter our perceptions on reality through pure will.



oh yes because no studies have ever been done on the effects of meditation, we don't even have the slightest understanding of the effects of meditation on brain activity. holy fucking shit I hate you you pretentious douche bag, you don't fucking understand anything that we don't lose that fucking mind set or your in for some crippling disillusionment and some point in the very near future
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Old 2008-12-16, 16:23
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so, um, why the hell is everybody bringing back this thread to quote random people and call them a faggot/bitch/cocksucker/(insert random flame here)?
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Old 2008-12-16, 17:29
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Sometimes I will myself to feel the effects of heroin.
Then i shoot the real shit up.
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Old 2008-12-16, 23:43
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u say my math is wrong but that is the number i came up with around 0.05 mg. and i always thought lsd was the most powerful drug molecular weight wise for spychadelics because i took less im coming to the

shit i don't know but i want to try some of them spychedelics... i could be trippin on CP,55940 while doing some mission impossible shit
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Old 2008-12-19, 10:56
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dont feed the trolls guys
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Old 2008-12-19, 11:20
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Just adding my 2 cents because I didn't notice this thread before:

CP 55,940 is an awesome cannabinoid but it's sensitive as fuck (to heat). store it in an amber vial in the freezer set to the coldest setting.

I had ordered a bunch and whenever I get rare drugs I always share, plus I wanted my friends to be guinea pigs but they were willing.

Anyway, alcohol and weed were also on the menu. Chronic marijuana users (1 male, 1 female) felt minor effects. Occasional/rare marijuana users felt strong effects lasting between 24-72 hours. Females were more affected than men, my ex actually took some on a 4 hour bus ride and got violently ill (and high).

I also had some hash chocolates at the time and tried an oral combination of 4 chocolates and something like 20mg of the CP. was insanely high, it was almost hallucinogenic.

I had wanted to try IMing some so I prepared some sterile grape seed oil and dissolved some of the CP into it, then filtered with a pinwheel filter. A single shot actually got me high but it took longer to kick in than oral so I did not repeat it.

The only synthetic cannabinoids that I would smoke would be JWH-073 or JWH-081. I would avoid smoking JWH-018, personally.
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Old 2008-12-19, 12:13
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Is $60 a decent price for .25mg of JWH-073?

What about $50 for 250mg of JWH-018?

Why shouldn't I smoke JWH-018?

Should JWH-018 be orangeish?

EDIT: I just read on bluelight that one joint of spice has 2000 times more epoxides than a cigarette :(
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Old 2008-12-19, 12:18
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Is $60 a decent price for .25mg of JWH-073?

What about $50 for 250mg of JWH-018?

Why shouldn't I smoke JWH-018?

Should JWH-018 be orangeish?

$60 for .25g correct? .25mg wouldn't even get you high.

$50 for 250mg of JWH-018 is a good price, it should be orange/reddish.

I wouldn't smoke JWH-018 simply because of it's increased level of anxiety, not to mention I've heard that the method the body uses to metabolize JWH-018 is the one that is the most harmful and can lend itself to cancer.
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Old 2008-12-19, 22:58
illuminatikiller illuminatikiller is offline
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$60 for .25g correct? .25mg wouldn't even get you high.

$50 for 250mg of JWH-018 is a good price, it should be orange/reddish.

I wouldn't smoke JWH-018 simply because of it's increased level of anxiety, not to mention I've heard that the method the body uses to metabolize JWH-018 is the one that is the most harmful and can lend itself to cancer.

I meant .25g
 
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