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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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 2008-11-26, 03:21
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how many shrooms should it take?
i plan to take buy an 8th of shrooms for $30 from my guy, me and my buddy are both going in half, and how many shrooms should i take to make sure i get good and hallucigenic..
i am about 6 feet tall and weigh about 230, what do you guys think?
i want to take enough to trip, but not too much that i get sick or anything
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#2
 2008-11-26, 03:25
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
buy another 1/8 eat one sack each.
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#3
 2008-11-26, 03:35
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
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buy another 1/8 eat one sack each.
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i would start small with shrooms bcause potency varies.1 gram of dried cubensis get me tripping.I have also had shrooms that required quite few grams for a light shrooming. Eat 1 gram to start and wait an hour or two and see how your feeling then if you want to eat the other .7
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#4
 2008-11-26, 03:36
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
Well i took a 1/16th my first time and i had an OK trip. Im 5'11 skinny. Definitely not comparable to taking a whole 1/8. Just take an 1/8. It'll be perfect.
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#5
 2008-11-26, 03:45
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
alright, he is about my hieght and probably 200lbs, i think i'll take either 1 or 2 and wait 90 minutes and see if i'm doing ok, then take 1 more
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#6
 2008-11-26, 03:50
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
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Originally Posted by Mortalum
alright, he is about my hieght and probably 200lbs, i think i'll take either 1 or 2 and wait 90 minutes and see if i'm doing ok, then take 1 more
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You don't measure doses "by mushrooms", you measure them by weight. They can vary in size so much. Eat at least half the bag, preferably the whole eighth.
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#7
 2008-11-26, 04:13
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
eh, i don't want to take the whole damn 8th and begin vomiting profusely, lol.
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#8
 2008-11-26, 04:15
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
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eh, i don't want to take the whole damn 8th and begin vomiting profusely, lol.
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and why exactly, would you vomit? they arent poisonous nor do they react badly with the stomach to the point of vomiting from just 1/8 ounce.
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#9
 2008-11-26, 06:28
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
I never weighed my shrooms but I never had to buy them cause they grow wild in my region. I think you should eat 20 to 50 if you're gonna go by shroom numbers rather than weight. If 50 sounds like a lot dry them up and powder them and mix them with chocolate or something. It shouldn't seem like a lot unless you have some unusual fresh monster shrooms.
I like random doses. I'm used to random potency and random widely varying shroom sizes since I get them from the wild. That's part of the fun of it for me. When I get in better shape I'm gonna eat 100 shrooms. I want to keep increasing it till I'm satisfied with it or just too exhausted and feel there's no point in going higher. You shouldn't worry about puking with shrooms. I think it's worth it even if you do puke. I wouldn't worry about anything, they're just shrooms.
The key to not getting sick would be to make yourself have a good trip by being prepared. 20 shrooms should be pretty mild either way if they're average size, and you're buying them so they'll probably be average. But you'll definitely enjoy it.
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#10
 2008-11-26, 06:32
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
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Originally Posted by 949884573
I never weighed my shrooms but I never had to buy them cause they grow wild in my region. I think you should eat 20 to 50 if you're gonna go by shroom numbers rather than weight. If 50 sounds like a lot dry them up and powder them and mix them with chocolate or something. It shouldn't seem like a lot unless you have some unusual fresh monster shrooms.
I like random doses. I'm used to random potency and random widely varying shroom sizes since I get them from the wild. That's part of the fun of it for me. When I get in better shape I'm gonna eat 100 shrooms. I want to keep increasing it till I'm satisfied with it or just too exhausted and feel there's no point in going higher. You shouldn't worry about puking with shrooms. I think it's worth it even if you do puke. I wouldn't worry about anything, they're just shrooms.
The key to not getting sick would be to make yourself have a good trip by being prepared. 20 shrooms should be pretty mild either way if they're average size, and you're buying them so they'll probably be average. But you'll definitely enjoy it.
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Don't listen to this guy. Do a graduated dose. eat some, then wait, an hour you aint feelin it, ok half it then wait. The last thing you want to do is get to a point you can't handle. it takes time for them to be ingested. it can take less if you chew and drink.
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#11
 2008-11-26, 08:18
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
If you refuse to eat an entire 1/8th(I think you should) eat at least a half 1/8th, that's 1.7 grams. But I have never regretted tripping harder so I say you eat the whole eighth. As long as you don't have to drive or do anything responsible/serious you will be fine.
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#12
 2008-11-26, 08:26
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
when you feel yourself comin up, pop a cap of E. you'll be amazed.
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#13
 2008-11-26, 08:34
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
Take a full 8th pussy, unless you got really really bomb shrooms you won't trip that hard. One time I tripped pretty hard on about 2 grams though but those must have been bomb cause the 2nd time I did a half 8th it didn't do as much.
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#14
 2008-11-26, 11:14
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
Eat 3.5gs each. Do you want to be disappointed or something? Trust me, you'd rather have a full trip than a disappointing appetizer your first time.
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#15
 2008-11-26, 12:47
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
if you really want the full experience eat a quarter if there cubes unless there penis envy then a 8th should do IMO.
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#16
 2008-11-26, 14:46
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
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Eat 3.5gs each. Do you want to be disappointed or something? Trust me, you'd rather have a full trip than a disappointing appetizer your first time.
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Nohan's probably right. I've seen a lot of people get disappointed by not eating enough. But you can't really go wrong with 20 to 50 shrooms if they're cubensis. 20 to 50 won't be too much, but even in the rare circumstance it is, if you're prepared it doesn't matter. And if you're not prepared you shouldn't use them in the first place.
Dunno why I bother trying to help these kids. Most of the time they're probably not prepared well and would be stupid enough to put themselves in dangerous situations. That's why they worry about taking too much. Not everyone has a great place to trip I guess.
You have to be kind of retarded to eat 1 to 3 cubensis shrooms at that weight and hope to have a decent trip.
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#17
 2008-11-26, 16:04
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Narnia. It is a silly place.
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
I've always eaten an eighth of shrooms to myself, I'm 5'7" and the last time I tripped I weighed around 165 lbs. and could handle that quite well.
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#18
 2008-11-26, 16:17
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
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Originally Posted by Mortalum
i plan to take buy an 8th of shrooms for $30 from my guy, me and my buddy are both going in half, and how many shrooms should i take to make sure i get good and hallucigenic..
i am about 6 feet tall and weigh about 230, what do you guys think?
i want to take enough to trip, but not too much that i get sick or anything
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Your body has not yet been introduced to psilocybin, thus no one knows how you will react.
I suggest you each take two grams for your first time.
But the choice is yours.
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#19
 2008-11-26, 16:45
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
Grow a pair, and go ahead and eat the whole 1/8th.....you're not gonna vomit or regret it. Remember set and setting. Happy tripping ;)
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#20
 2008-11-27, 11:41
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
Nohan's probably right. I've seen a lot of people get disappointed by not eating enough. But you can't really go wrong with 20 to 50 shrooms if they're cubensis. 20 to 50 won't be too much, but even in the rare circumstance it is, if you're prepared it doesn't matter. And if you're not prepared you shouldn't use them in the first place.
Dunno why I bother trying to help these kids. Most of the time they're probably not prepared well and would be stupid enough to put themselves in dangerous situations. That's why they worry about taking too much. Not everyone has a great place to trip I guess.
You have to be kind of retarded to eat 1 to 3 cubensis shrooms at that weight and hope to have a decent trip.
Dude what are you talking about 20-50 mushrooms. Even wet that is alot of weight to eat. Isnt it like 10-15 grams of wet mushrooms the usual dose. he is likely getting dried mushies. potency varies greatly but a gram of dried cubensis would probably give a decent trip to a first time tripper if they are half decent. 20-50 would likely give the kid a mental breakdown. Or unless you are tralking about micro size mushrooms.
I just ate 1.7 of dried cubensis and had a full on trip last time I did mushrooms. Without an opiate/oid in my system I can take a gram and get a decent trip. So you must be getting some REALLY weak mushrooms. dont suggest doses like that to people who are inexperienced and tripping for their first time man.
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 2008-11-27, 14:00
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
Nohan's probably right. I've seen a lot of people get disappointed by not eating enough. But you can't really go wrong with 20 to 50 shrooms if they're cubensis. 20 to 50 won't be too much, but even in the rare circumstance it is, if you're prepared it doesn't matter. And if you're not prepared you shouldn't use them in the first place.
Dunno why I bother trying to help these kids. Most of the time they're probably not prepared well and would be stupid enough to put themselves in dangerous situations. That's why they worry about taking too much. Not everyone has a great place to trip I guess.
You have to be kind of retarded to eat 1 to 3 cubensis shrooms at that weight and hope to have a decent trip.
I dont think you should eat 20 - 50 mushrooms if they are this size:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/images/archive/psilocybe_cubensis39.jpg
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#22
 2008-11-27, 14:38
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
20-50 would likely give the kid a mental breakdown.
It's not a mental breakdown, it's beautiful. Glorious. Unless you're a 12 year old bipolar faggot with a weak mind lol. Like I said, if he's prepared it doesn't matter. Trying to fucking eat one shroom and wait 90 minutes is completely retarded. I know you're not stupid enough to pretend 1 or 2 shroom could make him trip, especially at that weight. Not even if they're fucking azures. He most likely won't feel it and he'll just be wasting shrooms. So I say 20, but the queer already made up his mind to waste his shrooms so this discussion is over.
dont suggest doses like that to people who are inexperienced and tripping for their first time man.
STFU, it's not like it's an automatic death sentence if he trips harder his first time. He did say he wants to be "nice and hallucinogenic", let him have what he wants. Let him have a real trip. Fuckin whiny fags these days always trying to ruin everyone else's fun by making them waste time with pathetic doses.
Lower doses can be amazing but I think he'll enjoy those more if he starts with 20 to 50. I think 20 to 50 is a pretty low dose. Ego death is still very unlikely.
"alright, he is about my hieght and probably 200lbs, i think i'll take either 1 or 2 and wait 90 minutes and see if i'm doing ok, then take 1 more" lol what a retard.
You have to be very unusually sensitive to have any kind of good trip from just a few cubensis. People are just so afraid that they'll get the "super potent mutant cubes" I guess. You're unlikely to trip much from even 5 cubensis shrooms. I'd call it more of a high than a trip. The sky may change colors a bit, and you may get some random colorful fractals and prism effects and strange thoughts/images, but that's not what the newbies want. They want a full trip usually. Too many get disappointed when they don't take enough.
That's one thing I like about salvia extracts. Instant mind rape.
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#23
 2008-11-27, 15:15
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
It's not a mental breakdown, it's beautiful. Glorious. Unless you're a 12 year old bipolar faggot with a weak mind lol. Like I said, if he's prepared it doesn't matter. Trying to fucking eat one shroom and wait 90 minutes is completely retarded. I know you're not stupid enough to pretend 1 or 2 shroom could make him trip, especially at that weight. Not even if they're fucking azures. He most likely won't feel it and he'll just be wasting shrooms. So I say 20, but the queer already made up his mind to waste his shrooms so this discussion is over.
STFU, it's not like it's an automatic death sentence if he trips harder his first time. He did say he wants to be "nice and hallucinogenic", let him have what he wants. Let him have a real trip. Fuckin whiny fags these days always trying to ruin everyone else's fun by making them waste time with pathetic doses.
Lower doses can be amazing but I think he'll enjoy those more if he starts with 20 to 50. I think 20 to 50 is a pretty low dose. Ego death is still very unlikely.
"alright, he is about my hieght and probably 200lbs, i think i'll take either 1 or 2 and wait 90 minutes and see if i'm doing ok, then take 1 more" lol what a retard.
You have to be very unusually sensitive to have any kind of good trip from just a few cubensis. People are just so afraid that they'll get the "super potent mutant cubes" I guess. You're unlikely to trip much from even 5 cubensis shrooms. I'd call it more of a high than a trip. The sky may change colors a bit, and you may get some random colorful fractals and prism effects and strange thoughts/images, but that's not what the newbies want. They want a full trip usually. Too many get disappointed when they don't take enough.
That's one thing I like about salvia extracts. Instant mind rape.I do get visuals from just 1 GRAM buddy.
The thing is what your comfortable with may not be comfortable with this person. Yes it will not kill him but a full on super high dose the first time may REALLY FREAK him out. It is best to start small with any drug and if you had any common sense you would know that.
ARE FUCKING KIDDING ME DUDE 20-50 dried cubes would just FREAK HIM THE FUCK OUT and probably cause some psychological problems if he tried that the first time.
Take your e dck and put it back in your e pants man. the op does not need that shit. No one is whining here, I am only suggesting what one should do when trying any new substance, espeacially one that could have drastic psychological effects, even on a stable person. Your a fucking moron if you would suggest 50 fucking dried cubensis mushrooms for a first time trip. considering dried shrooms can weigh .2- 8 grams(and probably more than that). Even if he took 50 shrooms that weighed .2 that 10 fucking grams.WEIGHTWHICH IS A FUCKING STRONG DOSE. Your also an idiot for gauging it by the amount of mushrooms. It should be dosed by WEIGHT.
The op is getting a half 1/8th and 1-2gs is a PERFECT dose for a first timer so stfu up with your rediculusly HIGH doses. You are obviously trying to make the kid freak the fuck out. You must be getting the WEAKEST possible shrooms you can get because those are super fucking high amounts of musrooms. A heavy dose is 5 grams of cubensis. So I have come to the coclusion you get some REALLY SHITTY SHROOMS, you may want to start looking for a new supplier cheif. SEE THIS CHART FROM EROWID.ORG:
Oral P. cubensis Dosages
Threshold .25 g 1/100 oz
Light .25 - 1 g 1/100 - 1/28oz
Common 1 - 2.5 g 1/28 - 1/10oz
Strong 2.5 - 5 g 1/10 - 1/6oz
Heavy 5 + g 1/4oz +
www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_dose.shtml
do you notice how they do not gauge by mushrooms, they guage by the WEIGHT of the mushrooms.
Uou are basically suggest the op eat between 10- 30 grams of mushrooms atleast which is a fucking SHITLOAD for the first time.
Op disregard his moronic and reckless suggestion, a half of 1/8th(1.75grams) is PERFECT for a first time trip. You can gauge how much higher from that initial trip you want to go on your next trip. You may find that you dont need to go above that dose.
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 2008-11-27, 17:58
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
Nohan's probably right. I've seen a lot of people get disappointed by not eating enough. But you can't really go wrong with 20 to 50 shrooms if they're cubensis. 20 to 50 won't be too much, but even in the rare circumstance it is, if you're prepared it doesn't matter. And if you're not prepared you shouldn't use them in the first place.
Dunno why I bother trying to help these kids. Most of the time they're probably not prepared well and would be stupid enough to put themselves in dangerous situations. That's why they worry about taking too much. Not everyone has a great place to trip I guess.
You have to be kind of retarded to eat 1 to 3 cubensis shrooms at that weight and hope to have a decent trip.
You must be getting some shitty ass shrooms. 20 to 50 cubensis is ridiculous.
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#25
 2008-11-27, 20:04
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
I do get visuals from just 1 GRAM buddy.
The thing is what your comfortable with may not be comfortable with this person. Yes it will not kill him but a full on super high dose the first time may REALLY FREAK him out. It is best to start small with any drug and if you had any common sense you would know that.
ARE FUCKING KIDDING ME DUDE 20-50 dried cubes would just FREAK HIM THE FUCK OUT and probably cause some psychological problems if he tried that the first time.
Take your e dck and put it back in your e pants man. the op does not need that shit. No one is whining here, I am only suggesting what one should do when trying any new substance, espeacially one that could have drastic psychological effects, even on a stable person. Your a fucking moron if you would suggest 50 fucking dried cubensis mushrooms for a first time trip. considering dried shrooms can weigh .2- 8 grams(and probably more than that). Even if he took 50 shrooms that weighed .2 that 10 fucking grams.WEIGHTWHICH IS A FUCKING STRONG DOSE. Your also an idiot for gauging it by the amount of mushrooms. It should be dosed by WEIGHT.
The op is getting a half 1/8th and 1-2gs is a PERFECT dose for a first timer so stfu up with your rediculusly HIGH doses. You are obviously trying to make the kid freak the fuck out. You must be getting the WEAKEST possible shrooms you can get because those are super fucking high amounts of musrooms. A heavy dose is 5 grams of cubensis. So I have come to the coclusion you get some REALLY SHITTY SHROOMS, you may want to start looking for a new supplier cheif. SEE THIS CHART FROM EROWID.ORG:
Oral P. cubensis Dosages
Threshold .25 g 1/100 oz
Light .25 - 1 g 1/100 - 1/28oz
Common 1 - 2.5 g 1/28 - 1/10oz
Strong 2.5 - 5 g 1/10 - 1/6oz
Heavy 5 + g 1/4oz +
www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_dose.shtml
do you notice how they do not gauge by mushrooms, they guage by the WEIGHT of the mushrooms.
Uou are basically suggest the op eat between 10- 30 grams of mushrooms atleast which is a fucking SHITLOAD for the first time.
Op disregard his moronic and reckless suggestion, a half of 1/8th(1.75grams) is PERFECT for a first time trip. You can gauge how much higher from that initial trip you want to go on your next trip. You may find that you dont need to go above that dose.
I think you may be bipolar after the bitch fit you just threw. Find me something that shows the average weight of a shroom and then prove that 20 to 50 average size shrooms is too much.
Your brown rice flour shrooms aren't going to be more potent than natural ones. I know you think they're real "dank" and that your weed is really "chronic" and "crystally" but you're still a retard and you're making a big deal out of this. They're just shrooms. This guy sounds pretty heavy too. And I doubt 20 to 50 shrooms is going to be well over 3 grams dry.
20 to 50 would be pretty exhausting. It'd be intense but that's what people want when they're actually prepared. All we can do is estimate and I'm estimating at his weight 20 to 50 would be sufficient. I'm not trying to freak him out, it's not guaranteed to be a terrible trip. But he'll just be wasting them by eating one at a time or some stupid shit like that. I imagine you're just some skinny wigger kid though so I dunno why I'm replying. I don't wanna hijack the thread so I'll just ignore you again.
It doesn't matter where the shrooms are from if they're cubensis, 20 50 average size ones would be a pretty good dose for me. But I'm pretty heavy too.
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 2008-11-28, 01:53
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
I think you may be bipolar after the bitch fit you just threw. Find me something that shows the average weight of a shroom and then prove that 20 to 50 average size shrooms is too much.
Your brown rice flour shrooms aren't going to be more potent than natural ones. I know you think they're real "dank" and that your weed is really "chronic" and "crystally" but you're still a retard and you're making a big deal out of this. They're just shrooms. This guy sounds pretty heavy too. And I doubt 20 to 50 shrooms is going to be well over 3 grams dry.
20 to 50 would be pretty exhausting. It'd be intense but that's what people want when they're actually prepared. All we can do is estimate and I'm estimating at his weight 20 to 50 would be sufficient. I'm not trying to freak him out, it's not guaranteed to be a terrible trip. But he'll just be wasting them by eating one at bia time or some stupid shit like that. I imagine you're just some skinny wigger kid though so I dunno why I'm replying. I don't wanna hijack the thread so I'll just ignore you again.
It doesn't matter where the shrooms are from if they're cubensis, 20 50 average size ones would be a pretty good dose for me. But I'm pretty heavy too.
Your a fucking idiot. You are in no place to diagnose mental illness. Calling someone bipolar is not an insult and it does not offend me because i am not bipolar. I dont know what is with you and bringing up bi polar disorder, maybe YOU have an underlying issue with it or something. I wasn't bitching at all just pointing out how much of a goddamn ASSHOLE you are,suggesting a dose like that to him.
How do you know how the mushies I get are grown. There is a hell of a lot more techniques used to grow than just the one you suggested. The ones I get are VERY potent obviously if I do ot have to eat more than a couple grams for a great trip. And they are alot bigger than the little tiny ones impotent ones you must be getting.
the weight of the P. Cubensis i get, varies greatly and it varies in general. It can be anywhere from .2 of a gram up 10 grams for a SINGLE SHROOM. Like I said EVEN IF HE ATE 50 .2 SIZE MUSHROOMS THAT WOULD BE A REDICULUS DOSE OF 10 GRAMS FOR A FIRST TIMER. Not only that but the price of that would be super high. So take your reckless doses and YOU take them because the normal person DOES NOT NEED 10-30grams of mushrooms to trip.
Im some skinny wigger kid hahaha, god your a fucking idiot I may be white person but i dont dress like a wigger, talk like one, act like one, i do however listen to hiphop, but that REALLY does not matter what I am. i am actually more redneck than anything, i like the outdoors, like hunting ,hiking, fishing, i live in the arizona desert. i however do not talk like a red neck or anything I just like to do that kkind of stuff. obviously you know you ae wrong because you are falling back on stereotypes and generalizations. What i am has nothing to do with it. You get weak shrooms dude and thats that.
I know the strain i get which the dose is listed below with the chart. And i have taken the threshold dose and gotlight effects. I have also taken all the way up to the strong dose when i was on methadone but when i am off of it the visuals and overall trip is just too powerful for me. so what makes you think that someone with a beginers mind will be able to handle the doses you are suggesting.
Psilocybin mushrooms are not some fucking TOY dude, they can really freak people out and fuck them up mentally. You are an asshole for suggesting a dose like that. And you can ignore me all you want but you are still an ass. What is important is the OP IGNORES YOUR CARELESS and RECkLESS suggestions.
ONCE AGAIN FOR YOUR STUPIDITY
THIS CHART FROM EROWID.ORG:
Oral P. cubensis Dosages
Threshold .25 g 1/100 oz
Light .25 - 1 g 1/100 - 1/28oz
Common 1 - 2.5 g 1/28 - 1/10oz
Strong 2.5 - 5 g 1/10 - 1/6oz
Heavy 5 + g 1/4oz +
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushroo...oms_dose.shtml
once again op disregard this guys blatant attempts at fucking with you. A dose like that is WAY TOO HIGH FOR A FIRST TIMER AND MAYBE EVEN A VETERAN TRIPPER.
You must be getting some shitty ass shrooms. 20 to 50 cubensis is ridiculous.
Exactly. you better find a bette source for your awsome natural mushrooms because your shrooms are very weak and they must be micro sized.
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 2008-11-28, 04:53
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
and also, number, bipolar disorder has nothing to do with getting mad at people. its not borderline personality disorder, which is frequently mistaken for bipolar disorder.
bipolar disorder is simply a disorder involving 2 moods, excited/delusional (mania), and sad (depressed). borderline personality disorder is what you are wrongly calling bipolar, and it is when people explode or get mad at things to a ridiculously high degree, among many other things.
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 2008-11-28, 05:05
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
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and also, number, bipolar disorder has nothing to do with getting mad at people. its not borderline personality disorder, which is frequently mistaken for bipolar disorder.
bipolar disorder is simply a disorder involving 2 moods, excited/delusional (mania), and sad (depressed). borderline personality disorder is what you are wrongly calling bipolar, and it is when people explode or get mad at things to a ridiculously high degree, among many other things.
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Well i didnt explode at all. its not like i was clinching my fists and turning rd popping a head vein. The guy is just fucking idiot to suggest that dose.
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#29
 2008-11-28, 05:09
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
Well i didnt explode at all. its not like i was clinching my fists and turning rd popping a head vein. The guy is just fucking idiot to suggest that dose.
no no no i wasnt even suggesting that.
he was just assuming you were because he had no better argument and i just wanted to clear up the difference between bipolar and borderline personality disorder
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 2008-11-28, 05:12
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
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Originally Posted by kwerjack
and also, number, bipolar disorder has nothing to do with getting mad at people. its not borderline personality disorder, which is frequently mistaken for bipolar disorder.
bipolar disorder is simply a disorder involving 2 moods, excited/delusional (mania), and sad (depressed). borderline personality disorder is what you are wrongly calling bipolar, and it is when people explode or get mad at things to a ridiculously high degree, among many other things.
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I'm bipolar.. I think I would know how to spot them. I know tons of bipolar people as well. The kid had clearly already made up his mind to eat a little bit at a time, so it's not like he would've listened to me anyway, and ilovechronic is acting like he's saving the kids life. It's just so silly. I see this behavior all the time though... The chances of "psychological damage" or whatever are extremely low even with high doses. People freak out over nothing.
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#31
 2008-11-28, 05:18
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
I'm bipolar.. I think I would know how to spot them. I know tons of bipolar people as well.
i dont give a shit if youre bipolar, as you cant tell the difference between bipolar and borderline. "angry" or "quick to jump" are not symptoms of bipolar, but of borderline.
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#32
 2008-11-28, 05:32
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
i dont give a shit if youre bipolar, as you cant tell the difference between bipolar and borderline. "angry" or "quick to jump" are not symptoms of bipolar, but of borderline.
uh huh
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bipolar+anger&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
Feb 10, 2008 ... Various studies have found anger attacks to be common in 40 to 60 percent of those with unipolar and bipolar depression. ...
Anger is very common in Bipolar I and II Disorders. Research has shown that the angry type of Bipolar Disorder responds better to ...
www.mytherapy.com/discussion/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=485 - 78k
But anyways, when I mentioned mind rape with salvia what I was talking about is you can gauge the dose easily since you can smoke it and also you're unlikely to be disappointed if you can get a good extract. And plus it's legal for now. In most states.
It's been a long time since I've used shrooms but I'm sure 20 to 50 wouldn't be too much on average. There are people who buy and consume over 10 grams dry regularly. And I know you want to brag and pretend you have "potent" shrooms and that I had weak ones. But like I said, they're not as dangerous as people make them out to be.
I'd love to hear from the topic starter about how his method of eating a little bit at a time works for him.
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#33
 2008-11-28, 06:25
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
I'm bipolar.. I think I would know how to spot them. I know tons of bipolar people as well. The kid had clearly already made up his mind to eat a little bit at a time, so it's not like he would've listened to me anyway, and ilovechronic is acting like he's saving the kids life. It's just so silly. I see this behavior all the time though... The chances of "psychological damage" or whatever are extremely low even with high doses. People freak out over nothing.
No dude, you cannot spot them, you are not qualified with psychiatry/psychology degree to diagnose anyone so shut the fuck up. This thread is not about who and who isnt bi polar, it is about psilocybin mushrooms.
Everyone is not like you and can take rediculus amounts of magic mushrooms. What you are suggesting is simply reckless.
I am not ating like i am saving his life. i am giving sound advice that would apply to any substance being consumed for the first time.
if you want to talk about bi polar disorder then goto HEADSHRINKERS. This is not the thread to talk about that. Get back on topic or leave.
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#34
 2008-11-29, 08:52
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
ok, first of all, fuck all of you douche bags saying shit like "he's retarded is he thinks he can take 2 and trip"..
i've never had these before, thats why i am asking about them you fucking idiots, can you use some common fucking sense. why would a professional electrition ask someone how to install a light socket? you guys have to buy the dumbest fucking poeple on the face of this planet.. if you get any dumber, i fear you'll stop breathing because your brain wont be functioning properly
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#35
 2008-11-29, 13:50
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
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Originally Posted by Mortalum
ok, first of all, fuck all of you douche bags saying shit like "he's retarded is he thinks he can take 2 and trip"..
i've never had these before, thats why i am asking about them you fucking idiots, can you use some common fucking sense. why would a professional electrition ask someone how to install a light socket? you guys have to buy the dumbest fucking poeple on the face of this planet.. if you get any dumber, i fear you'll stop breathing because your brain wont be functioning properly
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I apologize for my harsh comments. But I think many of us would enjoy hearing how your trip went or how it goes if you haven't tripped yet. I think it is highly unlikely for most people at your weight or near it to trip from 1 or two shrooms but we'll still enjoy a trip report.
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#36
 2008-11-29, 17:06
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
Your body has not yet been introduced to psilocybin, thus no one knows how you will react.
I suggest you each take two grams for your first time.
But the choice is yours.
I would go with that.
We ate a gram for the first time. Then a little bit later, after feeling it, and liking it, we ate another. And before the two hour mark, pushed it to 2.4.
That was fun the first time. A perfect amount to be safe, because if they are especially potent, 2.4 won't have you tripping too hard.
Although a word about potency.
If you get some nicely grown ones, or for whatever reason they become extremely potent, whether it's strain selection or growing experience, there are batches out there that are 2-5 stronger gram for gram than shrooms that normally go around.
If you mess around with those, you'll end up tied to a bed in the ER.
Not likely to happen so soon in your relationship with shrooms though, unless you act like a fool, but you seem to be treading lightly into this first experience, so I doubt they'll have trouble integrating. : )
ok, first of all, fuck all of you douche bags saying shit like "he's retarded is he thinks he can take 2 and trip"..
Sometimes that does happen.
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 2008-11-30, 00:10
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
ITT (with units of added):
A: "take 20-50 shrooms"
B: "20-50 grams would give the kid a metal break down"
A: "Are you kidding? 20-50 shrooms is nothing"
B: "I get high off 1 gram 20-50 grams will fuck you up"
A: "You're a fucking idiot"
B: No, you're a fucking idiot"
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#38
 2008-11-30, 00:39
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
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Originally Posted by Punk_Rocker_22
ITT (with units of added):
A: "take 20-50 shrooms"
B: "20-50 grams would give the kid a metal break down"
A: "Are you kidding? 20-50 shrooms is nothing"
B: "I get high off 1 gram 20-50 grams will fuck you up"
A: "You're a fucking idiot"
B: No, you're a fucking idiot"
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Yes 1-2 grams of p cubensis currently available does it for me and that is the average dose. It is not quite a strong dose but it will produce effects.
Fuck you dude, i am right and the cubensis dosing provided by erowid backs that up.
I have had really potent cubensis before and they were VERY strong and I ate a gram and a half and tripped harder than i have ever tripped before. I saw tons of cool colorful visuals, a geometric clydiscope looking thing over everything I saw, and i even had a full blown hallucination. I walked by my friends computer room and i looked in there and it was all lit up and his mom was sitting in there. i went back and looked and it was dark in there with no one in there and there were just a few green led power light s on the comp.
I have taken alot more than that though, I usually always take a gram to test the btach because of that one trip I had.
ok, first of all, fuck all of you douche bags saying shit like "he's retarded is he thinks he can take 2 and trip"..
i've never had these before, thats why i am asking about them you fucking idiots, can you use some common fucking sense. why would a professional electrition ask someone how to install a light socket? you guys have to buy the dumbest fucking poeple on the face of this planet.. if you get any dumber, i fear you'll stop breathing because your brain wont be functioning properlyLike I said, you have the right idea starting with those doses. You can alwys get more and try more next time if you liked the first trip. If they are P cubensis, the most common mushroom that is seen then what you are getting is a perfect dose to start with, a gram would probably even be enough for a first time.
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#39
 2008-11-30, 02:51
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
I have had really potent cubensis before and they were VERY strong and I ate a gram and a half and tripped harder than i have ever tripped before. I saw tons of cool colorful visuals, a geometric clydiscope looking thing over everything I saw, and i even had a full blown hallucination. I walked by my friends computer room and i looked in there and it was all lit up and his mom was sitting in there. i went back and looked and it was dark in there with no one in there and there were just a few green led power light s on the comp.
I have taken alot more than that though, I usually always take a gram to test the btach because of that one trip I had.
And this is why you shouldn't listen to ilovechronic. Because he's a retard and he thinks that's a trip. No wonder he's scared shitless to try more if he actually thinks that's what a shroom trip is meant to be like. What a little fag.
Shroom potency can vary quite a lot, I won't deny that. One batch can be ten times as potent as the next, as stated by Paul Stamets. But you're unlikely to get a variation like that, and even if you do you'll most likely still enjoy it.
Please let us know how your method of eating a little bit at a time worked for you. And please give us a trip report. Btw the random variation in potency is genetic mostly, and it's not as if your entire batch of shrooms will be equal potency. You could have one shroom in the whole batch being 10 times as potent as the rest, even if it was grown with the rest of them in the same substrate. You could have several odd shrooms like that in the batch. So I don't know why anyone would believe eating one shroom at a time would help but... I'd love to hear how that works out for ya.
Are you going to nibble every shroom to find out if it's unusually potent? lol
I don't care how potent they are, nibbling them ain't gonna work. The variation is something you have no control over, so you may as well just fuckin' eat the shrooms. But like I said, we'd enjoy a trip report. We don't get many of those. So however you eat them, we'd appreciate it.
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#40
 2008-11-30, 03:00
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
And this is why you shouldn't listen to ilovechronic. Because he's a retard and he thinks that's a trip. No wonder he's scared shitless to try more if he actually thinks that's what a shroom trip is meant to be like. What a little fag.
Shroom potency can vary quite a lot, I won't deny that. One batch can be ten times as potent as the next, as stated by Paul Stamets. But you're unlikely to get a variation like that, and even if you do you'll most likely still enjoy it.
Please let us know how your method of eating a little bit at a time worked for you. And please give us a trip report. Btw the random variation in potency is genetic mostly, and it's not as if your entire batch of shrooms will be equal potency. You could have one shroom in the whole batch being 10 times as potent as the rest, even if it was grown with the rest of them in the same substrate. You could have several odd shrooms like that in the batch. So I don't know why anyone would believe eating one shroom at a time would help but... I'd love to hear how that works out for ya.
Are you going to nibble every shroom to find out if it's unusually potent? lol
I don't care how potent they are, nibbling them ain't gonna work. The variation is something you have no control over, so you may as well just fuckin' eat the shrooms. But like I said, we'd enjoy a trip report. We don't get many of those. So however you eat them, we'd appreciate it.
And that swhy noone should listen to you because there is no RIGHT kind of shroom trip you fucken dumbass. everyone does not experience the same exact trip as you, you fuckig idiot. Everyone is going to have different experiences. My point was about high potency shrooms and being carful to test them first. I have taken up to a quarter of p cubensis and never had a trip as powerful as that one. Those were not the only effects I got, those were just the highlights that i enjoyed.
God your not very smart are you.
when did i say nibble on every shroom. i said just try a gram of that batch and test it out to gain a general feel for that batch of shrooms.
What you would enjoy a trip report so you can tell him how he didnt trip? Because you know what the RIGHT and REAL tripping is right. Experiences are subjective, maybe your mind will grasp that someday.
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#41
 2008-11-30, 05:07
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
Uhh I took a fat eighth (4.0~) my first time, and it was like 3 caps and 4 stems...of indoor grown shrooms, not sure what species, but the grower is a friend of a friend. Also I weighed it out before eating. That was a very very intense trip, even 8 hours later I was feeling pretty strong effects. Idk if indoor makes them that much more potent but...
Also, one time I took a half-eighth, probably 2.0g or so, didn't weigh it out but we get fat bags from the guy. And that was a really really nice trip, kinda wish I started with that as the higher dose first time was a tad too intense. Had to go past my angry mother 7 hours in, and I freaked the fuck out emotionally.
So i say determine potency with a half-eighth, it can vary alot dudes.
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#42
 2008-11-30, 05:16
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
Fuck you dude, i am right and the cubensis dosing provided by erowid backs that up.
You completely missed the point
There was a reason I put the units of measurement in bold
One guy was talking about shrooms while the other though he was talking about grams. So that guy was talking about grams while the other thought he meant shrooms.
Hence all of the confusion. Now lets all just settle down.
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#43
 2008-11-30, 06:26
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
You completely missed the point
There was a reason I put the units of measurement in bold
One guy was talking about shrooms while the other though he was talking about grams. So that guy was talking about grams while the other thought he meant shrooms.
Hence all of the confusion. Now lets all just settle down.
i wasnt confused at all. If you read what i said you would have read tha tI said 1 dried shroom could weigh between .2 and up to 10 grams. This 919382943 whatever guy probably gets a strain that is VERY small or something and they are really light weight or something.
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#44
 2008-11-30, 07:57
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
You completely missed the point
There was a reason I put the units of measurement in bold
One guy was talking about shrooms while the other though he was talking about grams. So that guy was talking about grams while the other thought he meant shrooms.
Hence all of the confusion. Now lets all just settle down.
I think he kind of exaggerated. I don't think his "hardest" trip was particularly intense. That's just my opinion though. He's very emotional still. And what I've been saying is, I don't care about the weight. You could eat 21 grams dry for all I care, you'll still get a lot out of it and most likely try shrooms many more times after that, although probably with lower doses.
If ilovechronic's hardest trip was what you should normally expect from 2 or 3 grams, then no I definitely don't think even 10 grams dry would be too much. I've probably eaten the equivalent of 10 dry grams, possibly more. And I know people that've eaten up to an ounce dry. Some maybe more than that. It would be funny to see someone like ilovechronic freaking out from 10 grams. People don't automatically have the type of personality to freak out... They could freak out, and they could be shot in the face the next day. So what. A meteor could fall out of the sky and kill you.
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 2008-12-01, 05:24
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Re: how many shrooms should it take?
I think he kind of exaggerated. I don't think his "hardest" trip was particularly intense. That's just my opinion though. He's very emotional still. And what I've been saying is, I don't care about the weight. You could eat 21 grams dry for all I care, you'll still get a lot out of it and most likely try shrooms many more times after that, although probably with lower doses.
If ilovechronic's hardest trip was what you should normally expect from 2 or 3 grams, then no I definitely don't think even 10 grams dry would be too much. I've probably eaten the equivalent of 10 dry grams, possibly more. And I know people that've eaten up to an ounce dry. Some maybe more than that. It would be funny to see someone like ilovechronic freaking out from 10 grams. People don't automatically have the type of personality to freak out... They could freak out, and they could be shot in the face the next day. So what. A meteor could fall out of the sky and kill you.
dude you are a retard. i told you i have taken up to 7 grams before and did not freak out at all. And that time i took 1.5 of the potent p cubes it was MORE intense than when i took the quarter. My point was not about if i had what you thought was a real trip or not it was that you should take a test dose of a small amount of your batch to check if they are very potent or weak.
Lol i could see your bipolar ass all manic taking a bunch of shrooms. Once again you dont need that high of doses with p cubes atlest and if erowid suggests a strong dose is 5-10 grams then I will trust them over some crazy ,other fucker on totse who thinks he is so fucking cool because he needs more mushrooms than me.
You are not cool becuase of that, it does not make you badass. And making those suggestions tyo first timers just makes you sound like a douchebag asshole. /end of argument.
Uhh I took a fat eighth (4.0~) my first time, and it was like 3 caps and 4 stems...of indoor grown shrooms, not sure what species, but the grower is a friend of a friend. Also I weighed it out before eating. That was a very very intense trip, even 8 hours later I was feeling pretty strong effects. Idk if indoor makes them that much more potent but...
Also, one time I took a half-eighth, probably 2.0g or so, didn't weigh it out but we get fat bags from the guy. And that was a really really nice trip, kinda wish I started with that as the higher dose first time was a tad too intense. Had to go past my angry mother 7 hours in, and I freaked the fuck out emotionally.
So i say determine potency with a half-eighth, it can vary alot dudes.
This jus tbacks up my point.
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