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Post a "research chemical" you've done and a paragraph describing it, positive or negative.

Quite a while ago I got happened across a single dose of mephedrone and figured I might as well give it a go. I first sampled 2-4mg to make sure I wasn't horribly allergic to the chemical. The dose was slightly over 200mg, and as such I decided to simply eat it all on an empty stomach and see what all the hubbub was about. There wasn't any particular smell or taste I noticed, though I encapsulated it for ingestion. About 15-20 minutes later I had all but forgotten I had even taken the silly chemical, when suddenly it hits me like a barrel of bricks. I'm taken aback by the sheer force that this chemical is exerting upon me. The rush is astounding. Coordination is certainly impaired, with a high level of jaw clenching. I can feel the speediness throughout my body, though my heart rate is at most 20% above resting. While powerful, the rush isn't particularly euphoric. The rush begins to fade after 30-45 minutes, leaving a residual stimulation. There's a noticeable redosing desire. To conclude, worth the try, but I probably wouldn't buy it even given the opportunity.

I have never experienced any RC, that I know of...hope to soon though :)





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Is there even any good sites any more? My friend used to get 2C-I etc. I got mine a few times then the site just stopped shipping and shut down.
I don't really trust most of the "research chemical suppliers" most look like scams.

4-ho-met
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DMT: I can't exactly write an entire paragraph about it. The sheer magnitude and totality of the experience can only be expressed as a combination of :O and "whoa" and "OMG!" and "...I wasn't ready for that..."

2c-i: This one would probably be the most wonderful one I've tried. Feeling a lot like mdma, but more trippy and less emotionally outpouring. Another plus would be the incredibly small dosage, how easily such a small dose can be hidden, and how easily it can be snorted. The negative would be the fact that tolerance builds up astronomically. There is a definate burn when snorted but, because of the incredibly small dose, it doesn't cause an immediate and intense burn... instead, it goes up like air then, very gradually, the burn sets in, possibly exaggerated by the psychedelic/sensory effects.

Butylone: Remarkable ADD medication; made me talkative, energetic, got my homework done, participated in class, learned, stayed awake, got good marks, made new friends.... good substitute/addition for my morning, noon, and afternoon expresso. Also made for an interesting synergy with methylone. Not very interesting in itself, but very useful and expensive.

Methylone: Quite possibly the most gentle, yet powerful, high I've experienced outside of mdma. Burns significantly more than 2c-i when snorted, however the burning subsides rather quickly. It didn't have much of a physical euphoria, hardly even noticable. It did, however, have a strong mental component. For the first time, since I took a ritalin pill, I've had a wonderful clarity of thought and razor sharp concentration... as well as lowered inhibitions. It didn't, however, reduce anxiety like mdma would. The physical component sets in during the comedown, manifesting itself as a physical discomfort. It was most useful when used in combination with LSA, not a strong dose of the methylone, as both have vasoconstricting effects, but rather enough to elevate the emotional rollercoaster from high/low to high/really-high... I'd say a nice 20-50mg is a nice top-off to HBWR... along with a beer to keep my hands from turning purple. Also, it made a good substitute for butylone.
Personal anecdotes:
I once snorted a bunch when I discovered that I had an oral exam in German class and I came completely unprepared. I randomly started talking about Genetic engineering, the philosophy behind it, and the politics... as well as I could. I felt a strong social anxiety since I was standing in front of 20 students, completely unprepared and intoxicated. I even started to sweat a little bit. After a riveting speech, I discovered that I scored the highest out of the class on the oral exam due to my fluency and the fact that it was actually interesting as opposed to the other students' topics. I did, however, get a poorer mark on my written because it turned out I had to hand in a hard copy of my speech... which I not only handed in late, but also worked on it the next morning.
Another time I had a gram and brought it to a party with me. No one else was a druggie so I measured out about 2 or 3 doses, assuming that it would be an "all night drinking" type party, and also brought a bottle of some weak wine. I was about 3/4 down the bottle of wine and then my memory fails. Turns out I finished the whole gram in about 6 hours, as well as a few beers, some big gulps out of the vodka, Jäggermeister, rum, whiskey, and champagne... waking up in a chair, holding a beer can... about half full.... tasting it, I found that it was a 50/50 mix of beer and whiskey.... only stories have been told about the wonders I achieved that night.

Mephedrone: Not as interesting as methylone. Definitely a strong physical euphoria, but the mental side would be equivalent to being on the 17th hour of an mdma binge... "e-tarded". I've never done so many random things in one weekend... most of which I can't remember clearly enough to say anything about this drug aside from the fact that I shared it with someone in return for some heroin, hash joints, beer, and vodka. Maybe some people enjoy this drug, I personally find the jaw-grinding, dry mouth, vasoconstriction to be a little extreme. Left me with a burning mouth the next morning.

MDPV: Never in my life had I been so concentrated... socially. It was not meant to make me do my homework. It was stimulating, yet un-motivating beyond whatever motivation I already felt while sober... which is barely enough. Never in my life have I entered stimulant-induced psychosis so soon as I did when I binged on this for 2 days straight. Never have I felt so sketchy without it... never has a stimulant lasted so long for me, or been as cheap. As for that 2 day binge... I spent 48 hours jacking off with no success aside from making my dick sore/numb and building up my left arm strength.... I don't think my liver enjoyed that one either, even though I abstained from alcohol the whole time. It also left me with an amazingly sore jaw and teeth. The back of my throat was burned to shit from the sheer amount of cigarettes I smoked, ulcerations, and even burns on my lips from smoking cigarettes WAY too fast. I was a whole week before I could eat anything spicy, salty, sour, or even above room temperature. Alcohol, specifically shots of vodka, created a wonderfully soothing experience for my mouth, mind, throat, heart, and soul.

uhhh.... I guess piperazines aren't too commonly known aside from ecstasy pill adulterants so, I'll include that....

BZP: Very clean high. (Snorting burns like a motherfucker!) Absolutely no anxiety. Complete awareness, no sketchyness, full concentration.... not the greatest fine coordination, though only noticeable in my penmanship, but pretty good gross motor control, mostly noticable in my Tae Kwon Do class. Not so much of an after-sketch as with ecstasy pills (the kind that are relatively more adulterated) however, definate insomnia, the sketch becoming apparent on attempts to sleep, that can't be cured without benzos. Dreaming, however, was definately effected. An almost hilariously clear, and artistic dream followed, intertwined with real-world sensory events such as my alarm clock and someone calling me early in the morning. Next day... no emotional hell... but rather, motivational hell. I couldn't motivate myself to do ANYTHING without just a little dose to get me up and going. Reminds me of my preconceptions about meth.

BZP/TFMPP mix: Definitely FEELS like an mdma experience, complete with eye dis-coordination and visual disturbance... definite alteration of emotional response to various stimuli... though, not as emotionally/socially outgoing as a typical MDMA high, as far as I could tell as I was in a German Tae Kwon Do class at the time.
The other time would be when I went to a German comedy ...thing. I've never been so amazed.
Negative: If you smoke too much weed and/or too many cigs on this shit, without at least moderately sipping beer the whole way though, then you get one HELL OF A MIGRANE.
Snorting burns like a mother fucker.
Other Positives: See above
Negatives: Insomnia. See above.

TFMPP alone: Definate visual changes, trippy/psychedelic body sensations reminiscent of LSA/LSD... slight headache... burns the sinuses like flaming hydrochloric acid followed by too much sodium hydroxide and non-water-based flame retardant. Sneezing, congesting, as if I were sick... for a whole 10 minutes.
Other positive effects: Look at all I've written! (aka, see ALL above) ...and I'm still editing. Funny thoughts come to mind, the kind of stuff I would have when I first started smoking weed... or with my LSA/methylone experience.

Short version: I tried a few things, they were mostly interesting, I write a lot while on drugs....

I have never experienced any RC, that I know of...hope to soon though :)





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You trying to get your incontinent ass infracted?

Reserving this space for 2-C-T-7 tonight.



and MDPV is win. So much stamina. It is now my favorite stimulant over meth.

I've done quite a few... but i'll narrow it down to just one. 4-HO-DIPT, because I have the most experiance with it. I purchased a gram a few years back and have dosed everywhere from 15mg to 100mg and I must say the shit is awesome.

Since its structurally similar to psilocin, theres always going to be the mandatory shrooms comparison, and while it is similar... it has a unique flavor all its own. Although for me it wasn't as brief as Shulgin said- it would usually last a good 4-5 hours of solid tripping, the tactile hallucinations are insane, music sounds amazing and radiates with cosmic energy and it definatly has a very profound/spiritual potential.

DMT: I can't exactly write an entire paragraph about it. The sheer magnitude and totality of the experience can only be expressed as a combination of :O and "whoa" and "OMG!" and "...I wasn't ready for that..."




Well, if you want to be a nazi about it, all drugs are research chemicals. However, under the popular definition of RC, DMT would not fall into that category (aside from 5-MeO), as it is a naturally occurring psychedelic.

fuck RCs done 2c-i and 2c-e.

5-MeO-DiPT

Short version: First time I took 14mgs of Foxy... very scary hellish space-like trip. First psychedelic experience ever. Felt very uncomfortable and extremely anxious because I felt like I had lacked a sense of security. I felt a heavy emotional baggage which I was not able to release properly due to the fact that I was trippin alone, and that felt very eerie and lonely. I could've went into a complete trance but my mind was refusing to let that happen because I did not trust myself in a complete trance, fearing that I might go into a scary trip or do something completely out of hand. I stay up the entire night until morning, trying to limp through the trip while listening to music and focusing on my life in all aspect. I felt mostly bad thoughts anxious thoughts for some reason. When the morning came, I felt like I had survived a dramatic near-death experience. The trip had lasted about 6 hours. Even though it was a terrifying experience, I can say that I appreciate life a lot more after this experience.

Any tips to have a better trip with one cap instead? I was a complete noob at this.

What went wrong during the trip:
-Too heavy of a dose
-Lacked someone who would guide me through my trip.
-Lacked the right music.
-Lacked trust and companionship.
-Lacked trust in myself and the trip itself which prevented me from allowing the trip take over me.
-Stayed in the same room the entire time.

you can read the whole trip here: http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2124599

Well, if you want to be a nazi about it, all drugs are research chemicals. However, under the popular definition of RC, DMT would not fall into that category (aside from 5-MeO), as it is a naturally occurring psychedelic.



Yes, I will be a nazi about it. Not many have tried it and its not as simple as buying it from your average dealer and smoking it like your average drug. ...I am a nazi about it because it needs emphasis on how amazing, yet alien it is, even though its everywhere.

If you're going to be an ass about it, 5-MeO-DMT occurs naturally, too. :p

Lookin forward to reading this :]

I know this is frowned on in BLTC, but if you know of a trustworthy source for MDPV [Canadian if possible], I'd appreciate it (Frowned upon? No, it's outright illegal. I'm in a good mood, so you get a warning. - Theta).

I know this is frowned on in BLTC, but if you know of a trustworthy source for MDPV [Canadian if possible], I'd appreciate it (Frowned upon? No, it's outright illegal. I'm in a good mood, so you get a warning. - Theta).

COP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


OMG COP


FUCKING NARC PIG RAT/ANY OTHER PIECE OF SHIT PHRASE


META META META META BAN META META BAN HAMMER BAN HAMMER

NARD!!!!

sorry i am too mbored/too high..

How could I forget about the froggies :(

and MDPV is win. So much stamina. It is now my favorite stimulant over meth.

Have you tried removing the ketone on that? Prolintane (the non-oxygenated, deketonized analogue) and pyrovalerone (the 4-methyl ketone) are all active and I haven't been able to find anything on 3,4-methylenedioxy prolintane.

i want ketamine and dmt.

i want ketamine and dmt.

I highly recommend this.

ok, so some DMT occurs naturally... but what about the freebase form?

It's just extracted from the plant then turned into freebase form. But I have seen ways to just synth DMT.

MDPV is legal.

There are two kinds of dmt; natural, and synthetic. When you extract it it's still natural because it came from a plant -- not created in a lab.

There are two kinds of dmt; natural, and synthetic. When you extract it it's still natural because it came from a plant -- not created in a lab.

A chemical is a chemical, it's not like there are two forms of CO2--that which comes from respiration and that which comes from burning hydrocarbons. Synthetic DMT is wholly identical to extracted DMT (provided that it's pure, which is almost never the case).

SN: So is the reduced form, but it hasn't been tried in man (AFAIK), get to it!

It's nonMD counterpart seems boring. I prefer to use my MDPV the way it is. I am happy with it just like it is.

Deketonized; you keep the dioxole. You're taking a derivative of cathinone now, reduction converts it to the amphetamine homologue.

http://www.brynmawr.edu/Acads/Chem/mnerzsto/wolf-1.htm

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja01178a008

Tell me if you need the PDF to that one.

EDIT: The structure:

http://i38.tinypic.com/ippoc0.jpg

Which PubChem doesn't list. Must be rare ;)

But you haven't tried the reduced analog yet, hop to! I would imagine, from my very limited knowledge, that the reduced analog would be better as amphetamine is better than cathinone, but this may not be the case and honestly I'm mostly just talking out of my ass. But it doesn't hurt to try then you can tell the rest of us about it.

But you haven't tried the reduced analog yet, hop to! I would imagine, from my very limited knowledge, that the reduced analog would be better as amphetamine is better than cathinone, but this may not be the case and honestly I'm mostly just talking out of my ass. But it doesn't hurt to try then you can tell the rest of us about it.

One would think so, but with the 4-methyl homologues everything seems reversed (to a majority of users from an informal survey of experiences). That's why it should be tried, to see which principle applies.

ive had a few..
2ct7...... great high but toxic
2ci superb
2ce trippier than 2ci ... great
5meo dipt superb for sex but difficult to eat your dinner ...................... too many flavours man!!

mephedrone........ wow, like coke and e but the best bits of the 2
methylone..... better than mdma

mephedrone and methylone seem easy to get online in the uk.... my fave place is ravegardener...... great plant feeders!!

im going to laugh when anyone who has indulged in RCs suddenly has limbs that fall off in a few decades or suddenly grow a third eye or some shit.. RCs are so sketchy.

I don't think they are that sketchy, phenethylamines at least. They act on the brain not much different than other trusted psychedelics.

15mg 2c-e. Diluted in distilled h20.

There was some nausea on the come up, and I came up hard! The visuals are very prominent and kaleidoscopey on textures, color shifting, breathing, badass CEV's. It had the "electric" feel that I got from LSD. My mouth was numbed a bit, making me trip over words, especially since I had SO many thoughts to share. Audio distortion was extreme, when a sound was far away, it sounded like on nitrous. Sometimes voices slowed down, which is interesting when buying fried chicken from an italian (almost freaked on that). Ego death can sneak up on you if your alone. Music enhanced. At 10mg, it was very euphoric, but at 15mg the drugs true neutral nature came out. 2C-E doesn't give a fuck about you, you trip (hard) and thats it, you can do what you want with the psychedelia.

...about the third eye thing, read some occult stuff. You gotta stay completely clean from all drugs to grow one of those.

Happend to me, I have no arms or legs. I type with my dick now;)

Most recent is mephedrone, im feeling lazy so I copyed and pasted from a previous thread with a few alterations:

I wouldn’t say its better than MDMA but its nearly as good and feels pretty much the same. It lacks some of the magic and intensity of MDMA and doesn’t last as long but it as certainly as close as it gets to the real thing and better than taking the risk of buying pills or cut MDMA. To be honest in future I will probably choose this over MDMA as it is a lot cheaper and you get a pure uncut product as well as being legal. The one thing I have noticed is although you get a lot less messy with a lot less side effects (No excessive sweating, overheating, nausea, tremors and other outward side affects like overly dilated pupils or eye rolling.) Although compared to MDMA you gurn your tits off a hell of a lot more and that can get pretty fucking annoying after a while. Its also pretty moorish, I did 1/2 a gram with my friend last night before going to a rave and we ended up leaving 2 hours later than intended because we were concentrating more on racking up lines than getting ready (although I guess that counts as getting ready too). It has a lot less of a comedown and really lacks the noticeable crash that you get when you come down from MDMA although the meph comedown is rather sudden, one moment your messy as fuck raving your arse off the next your as sober as a nun and feeling fine and able to sleep pretty easilly. The worst I have the next day is feeling a little tired like you would normally have after a night out (drugs or no drugs) and a bit of a sore jaw, so far no depression or feeling dislocated from the world although that usually comes on Tuesdays!

Edit: Iv worked out that the magic it is missing is that touchy feely loved up feeling that MDMA has, the one where everything around you is amazing, you love everything and you just want to touch it, hug it, lick it (that one might just be me.) It doesn’t have the intense psycadelic effect that MDMA can have, although music and lights still look and feel amazing its not the intensity you would get with even a smaller equivalent dose of MDMA. If I could describe it, its is probably more like a low dose of coke spread out over a longer period of time with a small dab of MDMA thrown in. I have yet to try it in a dose >250mg so I guess I probably havent experienced it to its full potential yet but I probably wont get a chance again for the next few months as I only save these kind of drugs for special occasions (raves) and the next 2 raves are with my little brother so I cant (I gota set a good example ya know!) Hopefully for the next experience Il try methylone, that to me looks like it has much more potential for being like MDMA with the most obvious reason its very very close resemblance to the MDMA molecule itself because obviously it is in fact an MDMA analogue.

Ohhhh yeah! Quoting myself for the mother fucking truth!

Next up to try some time after the christmas holidays is methylone which I also have very high hopes for. Would like to try a few other RCs but I lack decent sources and am not too motivated to search for any as I dont trust my current mental state with strong psychdelics. Its all about feeling good and having a great time with me when it comes to drugs, I have a strong belief these days that there is a lot of shit in your mind best left hidden.

2C-E doesn't give a fuck about you, you trip (hard) and thats it

I was not prepared for a 30mg dose. Complete mental submission and intense tripping.

Jesus 30mg would be straight fucked.

I find 2c-e to to discourage conversation with other people, nothing like acid. I always find myself having thess little awkward conversation hiccups and misunderstandings. It always feels awkward and anticlimactic.

I'm so jealous of you guys because you can find this stuff.

Most dealers have no idea what I'm talking about and its VERY difficult to find a source online and even more difficult to determine if its reliable or not (not that I'm asking for one...don't ban me).

But yea, super jealous.

Jesus 30mg would be straight fucked.

Yeaaa.... I actually recommend it if you're into psychedelics and want to davel a bit deeper into your own mind and what it means to exist. I mean nothing beats that trip.