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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |
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#1
 2008-03-05, 11:54
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Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
I found that mine did. I was a Christian (of the Lutheran persuasion)until about 13 or so, atheist from 13 - 15, examined deism and found it interesting but too unsupported, then got introduced to philosophy. I loosely examined the philosophical underpinnings of the empiricist scientific method and its limitations when searching for fundamental, absolute truths about the universe.
I came to the conclusion that humans are so limited in our logic and in our sensory perception and decided that I don't know whether we can or can't know any fundamental truths about the universe (such as the existence of God). I don't know whether I can or can't know anything, so I suspend judgement on all things. So I became an agnostic in regard to not just God, but in a sense to all things. I've heard that skepticism ends up in contradiction when examined closely; I have to do this sometime.
But for practical purposes I go by what's in my sensory perception and whatever my (oftentimes probably distorted) logic tells me. So I'm 16 and agnostic now.
How did your religious beliefs change during your teenage years? :D
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#2
 2008-03-05, 12:31
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
I did not lose religious faith until well into my 20's. I won't bore you with redundancy because I've posted about it many times before.
Suffice it to say: I was a confused teenager. But weren't we all? :D
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#3
 2008-03-05, 13:04
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
Suffice it to say: I was a confused teenager. But weren't we all? :D
I know I am!
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#4
 2008-03-05, 18:54
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
I was a theist, and I prayed nearly every night for years, though I din't conform to a religion. Then, as I realized that my thousands of prayers went unanswered, I came to the conclusion that I was talking to a wall.
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#5
 2008-03-06, 04:41
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
1. Roman Catholic (Birth to 13) - Didn't ask aloud but inside my mind because, I was always given textbook, fundamentalist responses; Just Knew I had to do it...
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2. Christian Agnosticism (14 to 16) - Believed in Christ Teachings but was unsure with God! Personal experiences and questions that went unanswered, did not know so was unsure.
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3. Philosophical mixed with Interest in Paranormal and Religions (16.5 to 17) - Tired of being unsure I began to think deeply about life, its meaning, it(s) purpose(s), philosophical concepts. Became interested in Wisdom at this time...
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----------> In between a time of Christian Fundamentalism as a Born Again Christian. So I was beginning to question the fundamentalist and atheist views. Kept digging deeper and deeper until...
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4. Christian Gnosticism & [SOME] Western Esotericism (17.5 to Present) - The previous years of philosophy, spirituality and personal life experiences came to a crossroads and now go down the same road as one. Life is becoming more liberating and freeing NOT foolish and stupid!
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#6
 2008-03-07, 02:30
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
At age 15, I was a devout Christian for about twenty minutes, which was how long it took me to see the holes in the belief structure.
Became an angry young atheist until college, when I discovered mescaline and God (in that order).
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#7
 2008-03-07, 05:13
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
I was always kind of ambivalent toward religion.
I'm 19 now, and it's only been within the past year that I've really started thinking about religion. I sort of always considered myself an atheist, but I never put much thought into it until somebody gave me acid.
After that, a long series of events that hasn't ended yet began. First, I read the book Slaughterhouse Five and became interested in Vonnegut's explanation of time. I became interested in religious beliefs. I didn't believe in them, but I was curious. Then my friend let me borrow his psychology text and I read bits about religion. Then I caught some shows on the history channel that led me to study more about religion in general, and also led me to watch the show The Universe. I became interested in astronomy and started finding parallels between religion and the stars and whatnot. After that I became interested in philosophy.
All of these things have tied together to form my beliefs, and I continue to find more things that connect to this. So yeah, my beliefs are changing drastically as a teenager. I'll be 20 in may, and I'm sure they will continue to form and change.
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#8
 2008-03-07, 05:41
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
I was a pantheist until I was 13...my parents tried to raise me Christian, but I have a thing about 'rules'...I don't really like them. I was then an atheist up until a couple years ago. Went agnostic...then solipsist. Now I'm a pantheist with a whole lot of mixed beliefs.
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#9
 2008-03-07, 07:56
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
I was christian until about 15.I have been agnostic since then.
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#10
 2008-03-07, 13:16
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
I had general Christian beliefs until I was about 14/15. Now my opinion is that most religions can go to hell.
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#11
 2008-03-08, 02:55
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
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Originally Posted by ArmsMerchant
At age 15, I was a devout Christian for about twenty minutes, which was how long it took me to see the holes in the belief structure.
Became an angry young atheist until college, when I discovered mescaline and God (in that order).
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Wait, shit, that happened to me. Only replace "mescaline" with "psilocybin", and "God" with "Bill Hicks".
Now I'm just an angry agnostic.
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#12
 2008-03-08, 21:21
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
10-15 = Atheist.
15-17 = Atheist/Agnostic.
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#13
 2008-03-08, 21:41
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
birth - 13ish Christian
13-16 Agnostic
The main reason was fear dervived from a combination of Pascal's Wager and the thought of not having an after life, not being able to see you're loved ones ever again. Its a scary and depressing thing to to have to face. Part of me really wanted to belive in God. It is a very comforting thing.
16 - present Athiest
I always justified being agnostic by saying that its impossible to be sure one way or another. Now my feelings are that there is no way to prove there is no god, much like there is no way to prove there isn't an invisable pink unicorn behind you. But the reason you don't belive in the unicorn is because its much more likley that its not there.
So my current status is that I do not belive in god, but am open to the possibility. Much as I am open of the possibility that the flying spaghetti monster is real. I can't know either way, so I will continue to disbelive until proven otherwise.
EDIT:
The whole Pascal's Wager thing went away because you can switch the gods around and apply it to anything. Zeus, Odin, Allah, Ra, whatever.
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#14
 2008-03-11, 05:06
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Starsword 
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
When I was twelve years old I transitioned from Episcopalian to Wiccan.
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#15
 2008-03-11, 06:45
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
Well, when I was younger I didn't really care about any religious/spiritual things or God. I think when I was very little and impressionable, I believed in loosely-Christian beliefs told to me ever so often from my grandparents, but I had outgrown that before becoming a teenager. As a young teenager, I didn't believe in or care about anything related to religion.
Later on after diving into the drug subculture, I became fascinated with a variety of topics including history, societies, reality and what I am. Overtime my beliefs concerning God evolved from what I've experienced.
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#16
 2008-03-14, 05:11
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GatorWarrior 
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
I'm a confirmed lutheran, but i have my own beliefs.
My mom one time yelled at me because I said the bible uses metaphors
"That is not what you were called to believe!"-mom
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#17
 2008-03-14, 06:20
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
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Originally Posted by Whore of God
I found that mine did. I was a Christian (of the Lutheran persuasion)until about 13 or so, atheist from 13 - 15, examined deism and found it interesting but too unsupported, then got introduced to philosophy. I loosely examined the philosophical underpinnings of the empiricist scientific method and its limitations when searching for fundamental, absolute truths about the universe.
I came to the conclusion that humans are so limited in our logic and in our sensory perception and decided that I don't know whether we can or can't know any fundamental truths about the universe (such as the existence of God). I don't know whether I can or can't know anything, so I suspend judgement on all things. So I became an agnostic in regard to not just God, but in a sense to all things. I've heard that skepticism ends up in contradiction when examined closely; I have to do this sometime.
But for practical purposes I go by what's in my sensory perception and whatever my (oftentimes probably distorted) logic tells me. So I'm 16 and agnostic now.
How did your religious beliefs change during your teenage years? :D
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I realized everyone was a fucking stupid bastard who believed in God by the time I was 14 and I hate everyone because they are so stupid and they need to be murdered especially my mom.
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#18
 2008-03-14, 11:29
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
Xerxes is in dire need of a hug.
And some cake... laced with happy.
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#19
 2008-03-14, 13:42
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shitty wok 
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
1-14, open-minded Christian, I prayed every night and was terrified at the thought that no god existed
15-17, On the fence, prayed less often, but believed in god because of fear. Had a crisis and looked to religion, (namely a liberal interpretation of Islam) for salvation
18- today, Complete atheist, and I believe the notion of a personal god is bollocks
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#20
 2008-03-14, 20:47
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
I was a believer in God until about three years ago (I am 27 now). That belief was a strained one for as long as I can remember. I remember being very young, in Sunday school, and thinking this was all nonsense.
I dared not voice that, at that age, as I became older, I began to question. I studied the bible around 15, found it to be severely lacking in evidence, sense, and truth.
I still believed in a higher power, to varying degrees, (mostly out of an irrational belief in retribution and hell) until I was about 23-24 and began getting very interested in science.
The book that finally sealed the deal for me was Carl Sagan's Demon Haunted World.
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#21
 2008-03-15, 02:02
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
I was an Atheist my whole life until I around 15, then I discovered Odinism.
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#22
 2008-03-19, 07:07
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
from birth i was a christian... till about 14 when i started using my brain. at this time i didnt believe anything and was an ranting and raving athiest (the worst kind).
then at 16 i was like, well fuck i cant be making all these asumptions when i dont know jack shit about most other religions anyway... so i started doing research... i read maybe 6 different bibles or equivelants of... went buddhist for a while... few months maybe... went back into athiesm... found taoism just before i turned 17... (my studdies at that point shifted mainly twards eastern thought due mainly to my attraction to philosophy and values.
now im pokeing around trancendence.... im not sure where ill be in the next year, but im sure that if my wisdom greatens, so will my idea of truth yes?
out of all the religions i studdied... only one really pissed me off.... the koran is basically fucked up lol. it scares me a bit to think how closely some people follow that book... i think that if one of the religions is right... and if there is a god... somebody is getting a big huge islamic filled....
http://domn.sopca.com/files/No_Soup_For_You.png
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#23
 2008-03-19, 15:37
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
When I was like 8, and things started going wrong, I thought why blame the devil, if God created him? So I started hating God. Then I realized how stupid that was, and quite believing in him altogether (god as I knew him as a christian). Then later on, I started actually thinking about things, and existance, and started believing in something again. I never believed in christianity again, but sometimes just went along with it. I dont anymore. I think we have proof today that a life creates something. The show ghost hunters has given me more faith in the afterlife than any preacher ever has. The only evidence he has, is "the bible said so". Ghost hunters actually have some crazy shit on there.
Jews aren't as smart as I give them credit for. This crap they wrote, and 8 year old could see through. Pretty pathetic really. It seems like they could have come up with something better.
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#24
 2008-03-23, 20:04
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
I wasn't raised religious. I started researching different religions when a sudden interest was sparked by Greek and Roman Mythology. I never believed any religion, but I did believe that they were all trying to get something good across, then were later turned around 180 degrees and used as control mechanisms.
Throughout the past three years I've become extremely interested in the long history of ties between religion and different entheogens. Started reading a lot of books about a year ago and haven't stopped since. The most interesting book I've found so far was in a book by R. Gordon Wasson and Albert Hoffman called The Road to Eleusis. It brings my focus back to Greek Mythology and my favorite god from back in the day, who was Dionysus, the Greek god of Wine and Revelry. It uncovers link between ergot (the fungus used to synthesize LSD-25) infested grain being brewed into beer and being used in secret rituals that many brilliant Greek Philosophers were a part of. I've yet to actually read the book, just bits and pieces. I have a copy on the way.
I don't have any set beliefs, just a good set of basic morals that I have put together throughout the years that I live by and seems to work pretty well for me. They're constantly developing and changing and I enjoy working with them to improve my quality of life.
I'm pretty sure all religions are just basic moral codes with cool stories to attract people that are too focused on other matters to put together basic moral codes for themselves.
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#25
 2008-03-23, 20:37
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
0-5 Catholic.. no choice, no idea what it was really.
6-11 Protestant.. I believed pretty heavily when I was like 10-11, went to church camp.
12-13 Confused is the best way to put it. Agnostic? Kinda believe in God though..
14 Believed in God. No Church or anything involved. I believed there was some kind of God..
15 Did not care at all. Pretty miserable the whole time I was 15 actually..
16.5 (now) - Agnostic, almost athiest though. my only beliefs on God are either: he is fake, but it is a system which keeps the world out of complete disarray, by keeping most of the masses in fear and in their homes living a "good life" and the system is God.. or, he is simply a big deity who doesn't give a fuck, or a loving God who loves his people for who they are, and he gave them the eyes they see out of so they could live their lives the way they see fit.
But mostly I can rationalize there is no god..
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#26
 2008-03-23, 22:53
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
I was sort of a Christian, my family even started going to church a few years ago. Then I found totse.
&T has played a crucial part in my dropping of organized religion. :)
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#27
 2008-03-24, 03:02
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
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I was sort of a Christian, my family even started going to church a few years ago. Then I found totse.
&T has played a crucial part in my dropping of organized religion. :)
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Glad we could help, even though I, personally, probably played absolutely no part whatsoever in it.
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#28
 2008-03-24, 13:00
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
Norse Since Birth
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#29
 2008-03-24, 13:02
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
Norse Since Birth
And how's that working out?
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#30
 2008-03-26, 17:18
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
I never really lived a religious lifestyle, my mother was Catholic, my father Jewish. Both were secular, my mother believed in God, I remember one day on our trip up to my grandparents, my mother was telling us Christmas was not about presents but about the birth of Jesus and I ended up saying "God is a fairy tail for adults". She started to get angry saying "well I guess you can't celebrate Christmas then" and I ended up responding saying "yes because we all know rudolf the red nose reign deer and a fat man in a red suit who eats cookies has plenty to do with the birth of Jesus right?"
I was 13 at the time. Haven't been religious since, I think i'm more agnostic than atheist.
It's irrelevant to my life.
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#31
 2008-03-26, 20:21
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
My mom tells me that one day when she picked me up from daycare (which was at a church of some sort, I don't remember now), I said to her,
"Mommy, they took us to the church today and I don't think that god is real."
She asked, "Why is that?"
I said, "How can god live on top of the clouds when clouds are just water?"
That should answer the question.
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#32
 2008-03-27, 02:36
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
Vaguely Christian until around... huh. Can't remember when, but by 9-10 I was an atheist and have been ever since.
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#33
 2008-03-30, 06:21
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
Hm, religion is probably one of the more interesting topics in my life:
1-12: i was a kid i didnt know what the hell was going on, but have a strict christian family who went to church every time possible, so i of course had to go with them.
13-15: i believed in christianity for the most part, i didnt understand it all and didnt think everything added up completely so i tried to "improvise" it and create my sect for myself that worked for me.
16: My girlfriend's family was buddhist however, not practicing buddhist and i told my mom and she flipped out saying she was "going to hell and that i needed to save her," my response to that was "if your god is truely jesus mom, and jesus is forgiving, im sure jesus would forgive her for being ignorant about christianity and being brought up on another religion don't you think?" She just gave me a pissy look.
Because of that incident I completely cut off all my ties to christianity and pretty much hated God and ironically had to read a book called sophie's world for AP world history and it's about the history of philosophy and all about it and what not. It drove me to study philisophy more indeptly as much as i could calculating and formulating my owns beliefs. taking what i liked together and putting in pieices of the puzzle.
And because of that and all that philosophy i began to read into the most bizzare religious ideas in the world today, I read books such as: The Book of Urantia. Which i wholly agreed with in many cases. Then The Way Home or Face the Fire, which i took to heart for a month or two, brought me inner peace. And after that The Flower of Life, reading these 3 books, I had no idea which one to believe, they all made sense, each one anwsered each possible question i could think of, so what was right? Plain out confused, but not? I had so many anwsers, but which one was right?
17(now): I just started learning about chakras and prana etc. which is very interesting to me and from what ive tried of it, it is very real and does actually work to my suprize. However, while in research of this I came across a satanistic website which is an anton levay type of satanist, it's a form i've never quite seen or heard of before, I dont know what it is? Joyofsatan.com But however, because of that site-, (which I've read a lot of and do agree with some stuff on their and it does match the book The flower of life perfectly on que.)- it led for me to do research on the Yezidi people in northern iraq and in some parts of russia, very interesting, in a christian or muslims sense they would be "devil worshippers" but they have a total different view and opinion on "lucifer" than any other religion and look to him as good and not evil as the bible and qur'ran depict and it does make absolute sense, the yezidi people at least. But that's where i currently am right now, confused as hell. Constantly changing and revising my own beliefs.
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 2008-04-04, 03:13
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
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I discovered that religion was a conspiracy to stop people thinking freely.
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#35
 2008-04-05, 00:34
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Re: Did your religious beliefs change during the time you were a teenager?
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I had general Christian beliefs until I was about 14/15. Now my opinion is that most religions can go to hell.
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