So, there's this kid I know that I liked and wanted to get with for a while, but he sort of told me that he only sees me as a friend. That's fine and I'm sort of over him, but now he's kind of making the effort to be friends and I'm not sure if it's worth it because of how strange he is. What I mean is that I'm not sure if he's a normal guy with quirky habits or if he has painfully low self-esteem and/or a variety of other problems and barely functions in the world for that reason.

Here's what so weird about him:
-He never makes eye contact and in fact will look at something else entirely while he speaks to me
-He frequently tells me that he doesn't care about what I'm saying or that he finds it uninteresting
-He whistles randomly or puts on headphones while we're talking
-He fidgets horribly and constantly
-He tells me what he doesn't like about me (as well as what he does like)
-He refuses to make the effort to break a silence in the conversation
-He acts arrogant and says he considers himself above everyone (but he said he was joking about that)
-He likes the Doors

He has a lot of confidence in his opinions on things and is always ready to challenge me. He's quite assertive in that way, but all the other shit he does is confusing. Maybe he just really really doesn't think much of me? I don't know, but I would rather try to figure him out on my own/with you guys' help than see him more and possibly get myself involved with a psycho

Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the other weird thing about him: he doesn't drink or smoke or use any drugs of any kind and he never has. He doesn't have a problem with it, he says, but he just doesn't choose to partake personally.

Sounds like an opinionated guy with horrible self esteem. Trust me though, the eye contact thing can be worked on, I could never make eye contact with people, and I am fine now.

The Doors thing though.. Well. Good luck.

He wants to be a psychedelic Jim Morrison eating liberty caps & you want to be his Cathy Smith banging him up with speed balls.

I wonder: will this work?

Tweaker

-He likes the Doors


Oh god. Break it off now!

Lol.
Yeah thats all.

The Doors are teh cool, my little hombres.

Hm... I really didn't intend the Doors thing to be the focus of this thread

I should add that he also listens to good music. He likes Television and the Stooges and other good things. Just also the Doors and Led Zepplin.

The '60's & their ancestors d'recent have left them in a roman wilderness of pain.

-He frequently tells me that he doesn't care about what I'm saying or that he finds it uninteresting
-He whistles randomly or puts on headphones while we're talking
-He tells me what he doesn't like about me (as well as what he does like)
-He refuses to make the effort to break a silence in the conversation
-He acts arrogant and says he considers himself above everyone (but he said he was joking about that)




Uh, I wouldn't want to spend time with a person who does these things...The first one is particularly offensive to me.

Maybe he's treating her mean to keep her keen? Kinda seems like they could be walking together in a rainswept park & she'd fall off the trail. He'd keep on walking & end up in Starbucks and an hour later he look around kind of puzzled, "Oh yeah?!"

* Shrugs * "Huh?"

-He frequently tells me that he doesn't care about what I'm saying or that he finds it uninteresting


ABORT.

Why would you ever like this guy? He sounds like a whiny, arrogant prick.

Doors and Zeppelin > Television and the Stooges.

-He frequently tells me that he doesn't care about what I'm saying or that he finds it uninteresting
-He whistles randomly or puts on headphones while we're talking
-He fidgets horribly and constantly


Three fine reasons why you should let this uppety little cocksucker get on with his own shit and you get on with yours.

To be honest, you and I always had conflicting opinions back in the mists of time but even I wanted to read your thoughts on a subject because you are a very intelligent person. Tough and opinionated at times but aren't we all?

This dude sounds like he's full of himself and has no manners whatsoever. Even though there's probably a shrink somewhere who told him he has ADD or some shit, I'd be more inclined to say he's just an arrogant little trouser-stain and you'd be better off without him.

Well, he sounds awesome.

I really don't want to take the usually idiotic/close-minded leap to say 'further proof that women only like assholes' but I'm being kinda pushed to. Someone stop me here. :\

He's scared of everything, but not honest enough to deal with it.

Well, he sounds awesome.


No he doesn't.

No he doesn't.

Yes he does.

Yes he does.

I was being sarcastic. You should learn to pick up on such subtleties of language.

thats what i thoguht.
I also think he's really tryin to hard by being someone he's not? its that or either hes just a complete dick, because why would you acutally tell somone that u dont care what they say in front of them... what a dick
he's obvoiusly fucked up in the head some how..he seems like a person that abuses his wife to me..

Perhaps Geepee thinks it's easier to 'fix' someone else than to work on her own problems? Get her self a nice little 'fixer-upper' & he'll be just sssooooo grateful, that'll he'll always look up to her with puppy-dog eyes.

Now me? I'd only look up at her that way while she was on top of me. :p

Uh, I wouldn't want to spend time with a person who does these things...The first one is particularly offensive to me.

well of course, youre so full of yourself you think everything you talk about is interesting.

Doors and Zeppelin > Television and the Stooges.

I don't believe the opposite could ever apply.

sounds like a highly funconting autism case. asberguers (i know i spelled that wrong) possibly. he may or may not be, but he is odviously very socially withdrawn.

heres the symptons that are a sign for autism.

1.) no or little eye contanct. will avoid eye contact if at all possible.
2.) figdeting or feeling uncomfortable when theirs nothing apparently wrong.
3.) socially with drawn. akward speech patters. does it ever seem like he is talkign AT you not with or to you?
4.) un interested in other people. (for example how he dosent like you?)

this fella odviously displays some of the signs of autism. if he is, he is most likely a very high funconting person. chances are if he is in touch with reality as you make him sound, he may even know that their is something wrong with him.

I'm not gonna try and diagnose whatever syndromes this dude has, but I'd bet he has at least something.

Some people are just hard to be around, because of the way (and I mean this in the least judgemental way possible) they're fucked up, but that doesn't actually mean it isn't worth doing. He might be a fascinating and wonderful person behind all the tics and weirdness.

You have to admit, it's possible.

I was being sarcastic. You should learn to pick up on such subtleties of language.

As was I, in both posts, though mine was more poorly done due to general hangoverness.

You should probably distance yourself, he sounds like a total loser asshole. He'll just bring you down. Encourage his suicide for the good of the world.

He's not psycho, just low self-esteem in some regards, mainly socially, though he's probably quite intelligent and knows it and probably just doesn't really relate to many people or know how to function in "normal" social situations.

I think he thinks you're worth spending time with or he wouldn't bother with it, he's just very aware of what he's projecting and over analyzes himself. He probably doesn't open up to people very often or very much.

Probably a deep/interesting/whatever person if you want to expend the effort. I'd have to know more about you to give you an accurate opinion on that matter though.

Glitter, if you're still reading this/willing to reply:

What makes him so great, or worth putting up with all of that for, if you don't mind me asking?

What makes him so great? Well, he's quite intelligent and is a database when it comes to film and sports. He's also quite well-read and is interested in politics and world issues. We agree enough not to cause problems, but still have plenty to argue about, which keeps it fun and makes it clear that he has real opinions that he's capable of defending. While he's not especially nice in some regards, he is a gentleman and always opens doors (and the like) if given the chance, but is happy to let me open a door for him without rejecting the offer as some guys do. Other than the Doors and a couple other choice bands, he has very good taste in music and is capable of discussing it at length. The main thing I like about him though is that he is incredibly witty. He knows it, which is annoying, but it still counts for a lot. Almost everything he says makes me laugh. Most people force me to feign laughter.
I also like that he's a loner and has an easy time going against the crowd wholly unintentionally. Something about a general naivety when it comes to social practices is sort of endearing to me. Though I guess that's also where the problems come in. And he has a general cuteness about him which I used to adore.

Honestly I'm over him in a romantic sense, so the cuteness is no longer a thing, but the rest of it still applies. I like having intelligent and witty friends.

Opening post

Apart from the edit he sounds a fuckload like me. But I didnt realise I did all that stuff until you mentioned it. Fuck.

Are you ugly?

What makes him so great? Well, he's quite intelligent and is a database when it comes to film and sports. He's also quite well-read and is interested in politics and world issues. We agree enough not to cause problems, but still have plenty to argue about, which keeps it fun and makes it clear that he has real opinions that he's capable of defending. While he's not especially nice in some regards, he is a gentleman and always opens doors (and the like) if given the chance, but is happy to let me open a door for him without rejecting the offer as some guys do. Other than the Doors and a couple other choice bands, he has very good taste in music and is capable of discussing it at length. The main thing I like about him though is that he is incredibly witty. He knows it, which is annoying, but it still counts for a lot. Almost everything he says makes me laugh. Most people force me to feign laughter.
I also like that he's a loner and has an easy time going against the crowd wholly unintentionally. Something about a general naivety when it comes to social practices is sort of endearing to me. Though I guess that's also where the problems come in. And he has a general cuteness about him which I used to adore.

So basically he's a "know-it-all, pretentious little fucker"?

I remember kicking fuck out of people like this...Keep describing him...It's giving me the smile!

Uh, I wouldn't want to spend time with a person who does these things...The first one is particularly offensive to me.

This is pretty much everything that needs to be said.

Y'know, sounds like me and this guy would get along pretty well.

Maybe you should give me his info OP, I think he'd probably happily trade me for you.

I mean, he can't sex me but once he realizes he ain't getting that from you either I don't believe it'd matter.