http://myreligiousrights.org/main/default.aspx

I'm surprised no one except me realised you were a troll already.

if by 'troll' you mean messenger of god then yes, i am

You are to religion as SWF is to politics.

"In God We Trust" should be taken off coins and bills.

quote:Originally posted by bung:

"In God We Trust" should be taken off coins and bills.

I wouldnt be opposed to it...

just scrub it out

I'm not American, Your Bill of Rights means nothing too me.

I'd like to censor religion.

If there is a god, he's done nothing for me and he's as much of a cunt as the next person.

Fuck God.

What would America be like if God was banned from our culture?

The truth is, it’s already happening.

These words convey the seriousness of the legal attack we face in America. As you review the presentations created for television, radio, and print media, consider the fact that tomorrow's religious freedom may very well depend on the actions we take today to protect it.



"The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of @!%."

"Free at last! Free at last! Thank @!%, we are free at last!"

"If we ever forget that we're one nation under @!%, then we will be a nation gone under."



What if God was banned from our culture? The truth is, it's already happening...

ACLU files to remove 10 commandments

Cross memorial under fire

Christmas displays removed

visit myreligiousrights.org and keep our faith from being silenced!!!

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quote:What would America be like if God was banned from our culture? The truth is, it’s already happening.

No, it's not. Your faith isn't being silenced, but there's this little thing called separation of church and state, therefore the 10 commandments should not be on governmental property.

This isn't about faith being silenced, this is about extremist Christians wanting to spread their sovereignty.

quote:"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."

Prove it, you scare-monger.

quote:"The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God."

Prove this too.

quote:Originally posted by mustache rider:

if by 'troll' you mean messenger of god then yes, i am

He is, but sadly idiots actually think like him.

quote:Originally posted by bung:

"In God We Trust" should be taken off coins and bills.

I agree entirely. There should be complete separation of church and state.

this 'state' WAS FOUNDED BY THE HANDS OF GOD AND THE HANDS OF MEN UNDER HIS NAME

quote:Originally posted by Hare_Geist:

Prove this too.

you ever heard of kennedy or a Mr. Reagon!?

quote:Originally posted by bung:

"In God We Trust" should be taken off coins and bills.

"Remember the Lord your God, for it is He who gives you the ability to produce wealth."

Deuteronomy 8:18 NIV

quote:Originally posted by mustache rider:

this 'state' WAS FOUNDED BY THE HANDS OF GOD AND THE HANDS OF MEN UNDER HIS NAME

OK, you're either a troll or have never taken a history course in your life.

quote:Originally posted by Hare_Geist:

OK, you're either a troll or have never taken a history course in your life.

ok, either you're an idiot or just acting like one. which is it???

I think we need to see the difference between censorship and separation of church and state. I'm an atheist but if you want to read a bible during recess then go for it. If you want to wear a Christian t shirt then go for it. If you want to read about how to distill alcohol during recess then you should be able to as well. If you want to wear a shirt that says "Fuck Bush" then you should be able to. Preventing that is censorship.

One BIG problem I have is that they complain about being told not not to wear a Christian shirt. Guess what? That doesn't compare to Christian cults standing outside your University with signs that say "You will burn in Hell" and "God hates you." Or like in that movie Dogma, the people standing outside the abortion center swearing at the women going in.

Compared to what the Christian cults do, what the ACLU does means nothing.

The ACLU confuses me. They go for personal freedoms and shit like that, but not the freedom of speech of religious people? And why does the ACLU support Affirmative Action? I figured they would be all "Noo, we need equality." Meh, the ACLU has done some good stuff but it seems like they only do things that support their own personal interests not Civil Liberties as a whole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Defense_Fund#ADF_ethics_questioned

quote:Originally posted by mustache rider:

this 'state' WAS FOUNDED BY THE HANDS OF GOD AND THE HANDS OF MEN UNDER HIS NAME

Treaty of Tripoli article 11:

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Also, if you look on the two main documents that founded America, (Declaration of independence and the constitution),there is nothing about Christianity or Christian principles in them. (The "creator" mentioned was a reference to the Deist Creator, not the Christian god)

Other notes: The motto "In God we trust" was adopted in 1956, and "Under God" was added the pledge of allegiance in 1954.

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Once again, a Theist demonstrates a total inability to understand simple logical constructs. Colour me surprised.

quote:Originally posted by mustache rider:

ok, either you're an idiot or just acting like one. which is it???

This is what I think of people like you. (http://tinyurl.com/3aq7hp)

quote:Free exercise of religion is the first and most fundamental right of Americans protected in the Bill of Rights. It is the most basic and inalienable of all human rights.

However, the right to freely exercise one's faith has never been more threatened in our nation than it is today. And the rights of Christians are especially vulnerable.

That also means i have the right to stand outside a church screaming fuck god and burning bibles!

quote:Originally posted by bung:

"In God We Trust" should be taken off coins and bills.

Why?

quote:Originally posted by mustache rider:

"Remember the Lord your God, for it is He who gives you the ability to produce wealth."

Deuteronomy 8:18 NIV

"Remember, God cannot be proven"

~Science and Logic 101

quote:Originally posted by HideandSeek:

Why?

Because they weren't on there originally and there's supposed to be complete separation of church and state.