I dont get whats up with the eogtistical behavior. They act like they are so much better than their kids, and I dont get why. Please, someone enlighten me.

Life Experience.

Education in some instances.

Is that why when they ask you a question and you dont answer or say what they wanna hear, they flip a shit, yet you ask a question, then ill be damned to get an answer

quote:Originally posted by Euda:

Life Experience.

Education in some instances.



Like fucking shit they have, they know fuck all more than we do, stupid pricks.

quote:Originally posted by Ali G in da house:

Is that why when they ask you a question and you dont answer or say what they wanna hear, they flip a shit, yet you ask a question, then ill be damned to get an answer

People don't like hearing negative things, especially when they don't expect it.

Parents normally expect respect from their kids. So if they don't feel an urge to answer, then they expect you to respect that choice.

Because they've experienced things. It's annoying, yes, but it's often for the better, I guess.

quote:Originally posted by Pirate Hippie:

but it's often for the better, I guess.

I have yet to see that come true.

I think they just naturally act superior to their children. Otherwise it would be all backwards and fuck things up for the kid. It's just human instinct.

My plan is to act superior to my kids until their out of the house, and to then realise they're adults and my equal.

yah fuk dem dey dunno wat tey r talkin bout LOL we r leet pwnage alreadi, when ur 13 u no everything!!!!11

Why do you think you're better than your parents?

Also, you forget what it was like when you were 3-5. Your parents knew everything, they were always right, and they were perfect. as youve gained life experience you see their flaws, but you still think of them as superior to you just because of that earlier time, and now its got to the point where you KNOW your equal, yet you have the assumption that they THINK theyre better than you.

If you disagree with this, well its what i was told at a philosophy convention and this was linked to societies psychology somehow. I do remember quite well however, the main theory why we live in a male dominated society... penis envy!

quote:Originally posted by stab:

Why do you think you're better than your parents?

I dont. I think Im an equal, not greater,or lesser.

quote:Originally posted by stab:

Why do you think you're better than your parents?

Who said that?

It is about respect. Parents think that since they raised you that they automatically should get respect.

This isn't the case. For me anyways, you do not get respect through one single action. It is consitency that earns you undying respect and love from your children. Just because you gave birth to me, doesn't mean you get do to or say whatever the fuck you want, and expect me to reply with gratitude.

Fuck that, parents are human. They are just like us, and just because they have life experiences it does not make them the authority on what is right and wrong. Plenty of shitty parents out there. Maybe parents should learn to listen to their children more instead of trying to preach as if their kids have no life experience.

I would say that I have more life experience than my mother. Yet she acts as if I have no idea what I am talking about in the way I lead my life. Just an example where a parent oversteps their bounds into the lives of their children.

quote:Originally posted by Ali G in da house:

I think I'm an equal.

An equal, but in what ways?

You're not an equal, you're an angsty little jackass teenager.

quote:Originally posted by Rocko:

You're not an equal, you're an angsty little jackass teenager.

who are you to judge?

At your age, I thought my parents knew nothing too.

Your children will probably think the same of you because they will be living in a "different" time.

The thing is...some things never really change and that is something that is learned over time.

quote:Originally posted by Ali G in da house:

I dont. I think Im an equal, not greater,or lesser.

If you're their equal, then doesn't that imply that you are just as bad?

Maybe you should strive to be greater and find a means to make peace whilst doing that?

btw...what's the actual issue here anyway?

quote:Originally posted by oc6:

btw...what's the actual issue here anyway?

His mommy won't give him a new PS3.

Well, Ali...have you ever in your life acted superior to younger kids? Like being a Soph & putting down/pushing around Freshies?

Why was that? What made you so Superior?

Fess up, kid...

I believe the parents should act superior as long as they are such.

Once they are no longer smarter, or more experianced in that area, than their child, the child should be treated as an equal or the superior.

Maybe Im biased because I didnt have parents.

And when I finally lived with one, then the other, I already had an IQ 20 points higher than theirs.

quote:Originally posted by Ali G in da house:

who are you to judge?



Merely from the content of your posts in this thread. Angsty douche all the way.



I feel that since my parents conceived/clothed/fed me then they feel they are entitled to my respect, as they should. I forget this all the time myself tho.

quote:Originally posted by SlapinFoFun:



Merely from the content of your posts in this thread. Angsty douche all the way.



I feel that since my parents conceived/clothed/fed me then they feel they are entitled to my respect, as they should. I forget this all the time myself tho.

Im not an angsty douche. I give my parents respect, I just want it back

Wha'? You never dis your peers just to maintain 'rank'?

You earn respect from your parents by being a man. They don't respect you? Then its because you're still a little boy (as your posts so far confirm).

My kids get respect from me when they do some I think is worthy of respect..whether I agree with their actions or not.

Jack, do you ever throw your weight around a little to maintain respect? I mean, aren't all relationships 'political'? If people make & maintain pecking orders with their age peers?

Don't they do the same with their kids?

Of course, pecking order and men go hand in hand.

quote:Originally posted by moonmeister:

Jack, do you ever throw your weight around a little to maintain respect?

Are yous calling me fat?

Ok, serious answer. Not directly but sometimes a bit indirectly.

I'll explain.

For example during the summer i was out in the yard with my kids and some of their mates . They were all talking about which martial art is the best and which one of them was the strongest blah blah *testosterone show and tell time*

So I added my £0.02p and said something along the lines that the soft styles are just as deadly , if not more so.

I beckoned eldest son (17) onto the grass. He isn't *totally* stupid and was already wary. I did a double handed soft palm strike to his chest.

His heels left the ground. He flew back across the yard, through the open kitchen door and smacked into the cooker hard enough that I was suddenly worried i had done him some real damage.

He and all his mates were of course dead impressed (for those who don't know, there is a trick to it). Sure i could have demonstrated something far less impressive but ya know? Knowing daddy can do that helps them to mind their manners.

Yes I am a lousy parent.



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quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:

Of course, pecking order and men go hand in hand.

Men dis each other...of course they dis women too. Though, it is often considered almost a different & unrelated thing.

quote:Originally posted by Ali G in da house:

Why did my parents ground me?

Because they caught you fapping to gay porn.

^Not sure what you're getting at.

quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:

^Not sure what you're getting at.

He's just retelling a childhood story. Pay him no mind.

quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:

yah fuk dem dey dunno wat tey r talkin bout LOL we r leet pwnage alreadi, when ur 13 u no everything!!!!11

Brilliant!

Because children are like miniature retards.

So, I still dont see how my posts indicate Im an angsty douche or "a little boy".

To each their own,I guess.

Listen up, you little jackass, you need to consider yourself lucky to even HAVE two parents who arn't divorced, addicted to crack, or at each other's throats all the time. When I was fourteen and fifteen, I treated my parents like shit, for no other reason than they were trying to help me keep my life together, and today there is nothing I regret more than that. Stop being a little jackass and value the time you have to learn from people far wiser than you, because they won't always be around to help you get together when you fuck up.

Luckily, I did figure out what a dipshit I was, and right now at 17 I've learned more than I ever thought I would from my parents, and I'm thankful for every bit of wisdom I can get. So wise up, stop being a fucktard, and shut your mouth and learn something for a change.

My mom can be dumb sometimes, but she has a lot of common sense and wisdom to dish out.

quote:Originally posted by Rocko:

Listen up, you little jackass, you need to consider yourself lucky to even HAVE two parents who arn't divorced, addicted to crack, or at each other's throats all the time. When I was fourteen and fifteen, I treated my parents like shit, for no other reason than they were trying to help me keep my life together, and today there is nothing I regret more than that. Stop being a little jackass and value the time you have to learn from people far wiser than you, because they won't always be around to help you get together when you fuck up.

Luckily, I did figure out what a dipshit I was, and right now at 17 I've learned more than I ever thought I would from my parents, and I'm thankful for every bit of wisdom I can get. So wise up, stop being a fucktard, and shut your mouth and learn something for a change.

Repressed anger, and no, I wouldnt dare consider my step dad a "father". And my mom is a case of her own. I dont treat them like fucking shit either, so dont go assuming shit you dont even know

Even if they have less formal education than you and you are an expert in some field that they are not... they still have A LOT more life experience than you do and have been through a lot more shit than you have.

Just talk to some kid that is 10 years younger than you, but thinks he/she is a know-it-all. Now imagine that kid is you, and you are the parent who has to listen to those naive ramblings.

I agree they do have alot of wisdom to them, but sometimes they are wrong, and I think that as why we should be treated as equals

quote:Originally posted by Ali G in da house:

I agree they do have alot of wisdom to them, but sometimes they are wrong, and I think that as why we should be treated as equals

As I said, you're not equals. Show them some respect, and eventually you will get some in return.

I'm not going to say that kids are better than their parents, but I do think that parents tend to laugh off the things that their kids say. I think parents should listen to their kids more often, since children tend to have less biased opinions on things.

I, as the standard teenager, know my fair share about cars, to the point my parents are, quite literally concerned. But when they say something stupid about cars and i correct them, they always tell me im arrogant an di should listen to others and that im not always right. Now in most situations, i agree, but they shouldnt take it personally when i correct them about a particular topic that theyve never looked into, and i spend hours thinking about.

This happens when talking about other things (usually of a technical nature, as im that kind of person) aswell, and even when im right, they cant seem to handle being corrected by their kid. Theyve even gone so far as to tell me that i should never say when theyre wrong, just keep quiet. Well thats fair enough, but if theyre making fools of themselves with urban myths, id have thought theyd like to be corrected.

I think theyre just too prideful, they arent use dto me knowing much about much.

edit: This does not mean i dont respect my parents general knowledge about life. Im sure they know a lot more than me, but it shouldnt be crazy for a ki dto know more than his parents about a particular absolute (not philosophical) topic.

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Awww someones an angsty teen.

quote:Originally posted by kAtE-:

Awww someones an angsty teen.

me? or the op?

*suspense*

I was never really ever punished or anything, ever, when I was growing up. I turned out fine.

quote:Originally posted by Nereth:

me? or the op?

*suspense*

OP.

Parents hope for their children to be better than them. They must raise their kids in a way that asserts this hope. Many parents use strict discipline to acccomplish this; others don't believe in this normal approach. Fear will sometimes get the best of parents, and they will go beyond necessary measures to instill values into their children.

quote:Originally posted by kAtE-:

Awww someones an angsty teen.

No, just no.

mmmm, i love my parents. they are there for me in every way. they're awesome. i can be a real bitch to them sometimes though.

i have no fucking idea. my parents admit to my sister and me being more intelligent. and i seriously doubt they have more experience than either of us do. at this juncture in their lives, they're just about brain dead from my perspective.

until the day that YOU push your mothers head outta your buring bleeding twat she will always be superiour to you

^Bullshit. Giving birth to me doesn't make you my superior.

Respect is something you get from giving it. Fuck mothers who think kids should be born with respect for their parents.

quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:

^Bullshit. Giving birth to me doesn't make you my superior.

Respect is something you get from giving it. Fuck mothers who think kids should be born with respect for their parents.

And fuck kids who don't show their parents any respect either. You gotta give some to get some. As a kid, you are a second class citizen, your opinion does not matter in the least, so if you want to be heard you have to build respect, not act like a little asshole.

quote:Originally posted by Rocko:

And fuck kids who don't show their parents any respect either. You gotta give some to get some. As a kid, you are a second class citizen, your opinion does not matter in the least, so if you want to be heard you have to build respect, not act like a little asshole.

Ok fuck you, you didnt even think about that, its the most irrational thing ive heard for weeks.

Being a kid in itself does not make you any worse than your parents. The reason kids are generally inferior is because they havent had the time the aprents have had to learn about the world. Kids are not inherently lower or less deserving respect, but due to circumstance, a lot are.

Theres nothing stopping you from applying yourself as much as possible and surpassing your parents by 20, except that people usually cant be fucked. By the same note, theres nothing to say your parents arent fuckwits and didnt apply themselves for the few decades prior to you, and thus are no better than you.

um.... im just thoriwin this out... i hate to say it but may be they are

quote:Originally posted by Rocko:

And fuck kids who don't show their parents any respect either. You gotta give some to get some. As a kid, you are a second class citizen, your opinion does not matter in the least, so if you want to be heard you have to build respect, not act like a little asshole.

The ironic thing about this statement is that kids are actually greater then there parents for one simple reason. Time. Kids have potential, they go to school to replace there parents. By the time a kid becomes an adult in the eyes of the law, the parents are already running out of time. At 18 when minors become adults they have a good 40-50 years of productive use to society, there parents might have 10-15 years at most of sustaining a job.

quote:Originally posted by Nereth:

Being a kid in itself does not make you any worse than your parents. The reason kids are generally inferior is because they havent had the time the aprents have had to learn about the world. Kids are not inherently lower or less deserving respect, but due to circumstance, a lot are.

Kids should show respect to there parents, but kids don't rember when there parents had to wipe there asses for them so how do expect this same kid to have that respect for them. How old you are in no way should account for how much respect you should get.

Anyway the way I feel is that my parents should get equal respect to everybody else. They raised me but just in the way they raise a dog we got recently I can see they have flaws just like everybody else, and because of them I am the person I am today and now that I'm more aware I can change to a better me. Thats enough rabbeling for now.

Adult superiority complex.

Eh being wrong (especially in an American society) is strongly looked down upon, its only natural.

It goes both ways, children are the same way.

Teachers are worse. They assume a boss employee role. They are the boss, and we are to obey them. But I went to a private school, and when you think about, my parents were the ones paying their salary. So the boss and employee roles should be switched. I think its more of a control issue and a need to feel dominant / important. At least thats what i experienced with teachers.

My parents were never like that, I've taught my dad a lot about politics, circuits, computers, and my dad taught me a lot about economics, fixing cars, woodworking, flying helicopters, you name it. By about 16 I stopped watching tv, going to parties, I just sat around and tried to learn as much as possible because I like learning how to do stuff, so by 18 we both had a lot to offer each other.

quote:Originally posted by Nameless Dude:

Kids should show respect to there parents, but kids don't rember when there parents had to wipe there asses for them so how do expect this same kid to have that respect for them. How old you are in no way should account for how much respect you should get.

Anyway the way I feel is that my parents should get equal respect to everybody else. They raised me but just in the way they raise a dog we got recently I can see they have flaws just like everybody else, and because of them I am the person I am today and now that I'm more aware I can change to a better me. Thats enough rabbeling for now.

Yes but some parents dont do that shit. Id you are the bare m inimum parent, you get the bare minimum respect. I dont give them respect because theyre my parents, i give them respect because they help me out. If they help me out and they arent my paretns theyl get respect, if they are my parents and they dont help me out, they wont. Being my parents has nothing to do with it. Except when im 5 and daddy is a superhero.

quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:

Who said that?

It is about respect. Parents think that since they raised you that they automatically should get respect.

This isn't the case. For me anyways, you do not get respect through one single action. It is consitency that earns you undying respect and love from your children. Just because you gave birth to me, doesn't mean you get do to or say whatever the fuck you want, and expect me to reply with gratitude.

Fuck that, parents are human. They are just like us, and just because they have life experiences it does not make them the authority on what is right and wrong. Plenty of shitty parents out there. Maybe parents should learn to listen to their children more instead of trying to preach as if their kids have no life experience.

I would say that I have more life experience than my mother. Yet she acts as if I have no idea what I am talking about in the way I lead my life. Just an example where a parent oversteps their bounds into the lives of their children.



that is the first time i have ever agreed with you 100%

my mum always says how i should respect her, when she has done nothing to earn it, if anything, quite the opposite. i dont see why someone being you parent should = instant respect, it has to be earned.

quote:Originally posted by j3n0v4:

Also, you forget what it was like when you were 3-5. Your parents knew everything, they were always right, and they were perfect. as youve gained life experience you see their flaws, but you still think of them as superior to you just because of that earlier time, and now its got to the point where you KNOW your equal, yet you have the assumption that they THINK theyre better than you.

If you disagree with this, well its what i was told at a philosophy convention and this was linked to societies psychology somehow. I do remember quite well however, the main theory why we live in a male dominated society... penis envy!

I came to this conclusion a while back when i was trying to find out exactly what authority they had over me, and where it stemmed from.

I came to realize that they have authority because minors grant it to them. To liberate yourself you have to see there is no authority. With this come consequences, having to live out of the house, work for a living etc. But the authority they have is only superficial