Would you abandon a girl who was carrying your child? I mean if she had decided to keep it against your wishes.

The reason i ask is because recently i seem to be seeing more and more very young single mom's. Usually they look about 14 , with that pallor which comes from a constant diet of cut price supermarket lager,broken nights, tinned food and drunken-freak-sperm, wearing those stupid ultra short parkas which leave their bare stomachs exposed (and this is norfolk were the wind comes directly from SIberia and a wind chill of -10 C isn't uncommon! ).

Don't get me wrong, despite being an anally retentive,reactionary, mildly-to-the-right-of -Matthew Hopkins old git i don't have a problem with teenage single moms. Infact i take the view that any woman who rejects the peer/boyfriend pressure , the femnazi eugenics theology,and shows the basic humanity NOT to murder her own child is a hero and deserves all the support and help society can give.

What i can't understand is how any boy (they can't be men) can leave his child in the lurch.

Infact it's one of the few things i might actually beat the living crap out of my own sons for.



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Personally i wouldnt have been stupid enough to get my girlfriend pregnant

And even if she did, and she wanted to keep it then id stand by her all the way.

Depending on the situation: If I really wasn't ready for a child and made these thoughts clear from the get go (before having sex), then I'd probably feel comfortable being an absent father. That said, I couldn't possibly put myself in that situation as I don't even know another guy who's been through that.
If it was a total mistake on both parts and she was pro-life, I would have to make an impact, small as it would probably be.

That said, I'm very careful and, therefore, can't see myself having sex with someone who isn't as prepared as I am. I.e. On the pill with condoms on the first go.
Also, the type of girl who's pro-life isn't really my type.

Hmmm... this is a very grey area, isn't it? I mean, I would probably take each situation as individual. I hate to generalise, so I honestly can't make up my mind until I'm slapped with it full in the face.

No I wouldn't abandon her, but no matter what, she would get that baby removed.

I would force her, or something very bad would happen to her to get that baby removed.

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Originally posted by playboy311:
No I wouldn't abandon her, but no matter what, she would get that baby removed.

I would force her, or something very bad would happen to her to get that baby removed.

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You're a cunt. How's that going for you?

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Originally posted by among_the_living:
Personally i wouldnt have been stupid enough to get my girlfriend pregnant

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man i'm starting to get so paranoid...

knowing my luck, whether i fathered the child or not, if one of my friends got pregnant, i would fucking get stuck being the father figure. so, yeah, i would stay and help.

If I got into the situation, I'd do my very, very best to stay with the girl. If I really couldn't stay with her I'd still be involved with the kid.

Or at least, I hope I would. If it actually came to it I might do the cowardly thing and get on a flight to Cuba or something. I'd hope I wouldn't, but you never know.

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Originally posted by RogueEagle91:
knowing my luck, whether i fathered the child or not, if one of my friends got pregnant, i would fucking get stuck being the father figure. so, yeah, i would stay and help.

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Which is the noble and decent thing to do.

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Originally posted by crimsonsmoke:
Depending on the situation: If I really wasn't ready for a child and made these thoughts clear from the get go (before having sex), then I'd probably feel comfortable being an absent father. That said, I couldn't possibly put myself in that situation as I don't even know another guy who's been through that.
If it was a total mistake on both parts and she was pro-life, I would have to make an impact, small as it would probably be.

That said, I'm very careful and, therefore, can't see myself having sex with someone who isn't as prepared as I am. I.e. On the pill with condoms on the first go.
Also, the type of girl who's pro-life isn't really my type.

Hmmm... this is a very grey area, isn't it? I mean, I would probably take each situation as individual. I hate to generalise, so I honestly can't make up my mind until I'm slapped with it full in the face.

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I'm really not trying to be a jerk or contradictory here, but I just have to comment on this!

A girl changes once she becomes pregnant and a girl who previously believed herself capable of getting an abortion might change her mind when there actually is a real pregnancy. I think it's hormonal or something and I'm not claiming that this would happen to EVERY girl.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: There's never an ideal time to have a baby! If you wait until everything's perfect you'll be 60 years old!


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Originally posted by Xiao Mei:


I've said it before and I'll say it again: There's never an ideal time to have a baby! If you wait until everything's perfect you'll be 60 years old!

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For once my little femnazi we are in total agreement.:P Same applies to marriage itself.Waiting til you can afford to marry is to miss all the fulfilment of struggling together against the odds.

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Originally posted by crimsonsmoke:
You're a cunt. How's that going for you?

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I'm a cunt?

How's that?

Because my dumb bitch of a girlfriend is forcing us to have a baby that I wouldn't want? So she can trap me for 18 years of my life?

No, she's the cunt.

See, but I'm not stupid enough to get the girl pregnant, unless that is I was drunk, or the bitch some how sabotaged me, why would she sabotage me? So she can keep me for 18 years of my life...Bitches are scandalize like that.

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Originally posted by playboy311:
I'm a cunt?

How's that?

Because my dumb bitch of a girlfriend is forcing us to have a baby that I wouldn't want? So she can trap me for 18 years of my life?

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All of which raises the question of who is stupider? Her for 'forcing' a child upon you or you for sleeping with her in the first place?

Oh yeah, because all of us "Bitches" reeeeaaaallllyyyy want the baby of an asshole like you!

I'm talking to the guy above Jackketch, BTW!:P

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Originally posted by Xiao Mei:
Oh yeah, because all of us "Bitches" reeeeaaaallllyyyy want the baby of an asshole like you!

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LOL..yes there are occaisions when even jackketch thinks there might be a case for abortion...

Yes, i would be there for the child. I mean, i could have NOT done that chick. But removing it has my preference, but since it's her body.....

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Originally posted by jackketch:
All of which raises the question of who is stupider? Her for 'forcing' a child upon you or you for sleeping with her in the first place?

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I understand your point of view..."well you should of NOT had sex with her!!", but girls around here specially the ones that are so deeply in love with you, will try everything and anything to get you trapped and have a kid.

They are sneaky as fuck.



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Originally posted by Xiao Mei:
Oh yeah, because all of us "Bitches" reeeeaaaallllyyyy want the baby of an asshole like you!

I'm talking to the guy above Jackketch, BTW!:P

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You don't understand do you?

There are females and then there are bitches.

See? A female wouldn't "trap" a guy, and force him to have the baby. A bitch would.

Sorry if I offended you, but I'm serious, there are girls that are straight up bitches, and they deserved to be called that too.

First off, I would never sleep with someone that I didn't love at least to some extent. That said, I would never leave a woman with my child.

I don't know how much this counts, though. What is your age cut-off for this question?

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Originally posted by malaria:
First off, I would never sleep with someone that I didn't love at least to some extent. That said, I would never leave a woman with my child.

I don't know how much this counts, though. What is your age cut-off for this question?

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No cut off age really but i was aiming it at the 14-21 year olds mainly.

Ok, well I am 23, but even at those ages I wouldn't have left. One of my former coworkers once called me a "Mormon" because of my values relating to sex.

if she was my girlfriend i would stay with her but if it was just some one night stand she would have to be really hot and come from a wealthy/rich family in order to convince me to stay

I really don't know if I would stay with the girl in question. I would absolutely never be an absent father though - if I didn't live with the child's mother, I would definitely pay maintenance (both emotional and monetary.)

I don't think I could live with myself if I had a child I never saw. It's just not cricket.

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Originally posted by jackketch:
I mean if she had decided to keep it against your wishes.

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Then she can fall down the stairs for all I care.

I've had sex with one woman, who I didn't want to fuck, therefore yes, I would leave her (in a heartbeat).

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Originally posted by the bamph:
man i'm starting to get so paranoid...

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....paranoid about the what now?

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Originally posted by Pilsu:
Then she can fall down the stairs for all I care.

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I liked it better when you were being all romantic...

Okay Jackketch, There are very few guys who would leave a good relationship becouse she got pregnant at a young age. Now, most guys Wouldnt stay with a pregnant cheating slut, And most women won't ever give up their child. SO, that leaves the large amount of single mothers that you see. Becouse belive it or not, when the shit hits the fan and she gets pregnant Most guys would stick with her out of duty. Me personally, I would make sure she doesent want a kid in the first place before I fuck her without a condom(Mind you she would have to be on the pill for sure).

Oh yeah and abortion may be murder to you, but so is leaving the kid to be raised on the streets and by another one like him Killing over a Fat Dime of smack.

I'd want the abortion first and foremost. But if she wanted to keep the kid, then I'd want to see my goddamn son.
No buts about it.

Edit: Always imagined having a son.

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I don't know about staying with the woman, that would depend on other factors. But if a woman was carrying my child and didn't want an abortion (I'd like to think I could leave that decision up to her) I'd do my best to support the kid and subsequently her as well as I could. It's the adult thing to do.

Abortion is sometimes a choice that has to be made....right or wrong theres two lives concerned....the mothers and the unborn child.

The father, like it or not should have no say in the matter Its up to the mother because at the end of the day the responsibility falls on her and no one else!

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Originally posted by blutark:
Abortion is sometimes a choice that has to be made....right or wrong theres two lives concerned....the mothers and the unborn child.

The father, like it or not should have no say in the matter Its up to the mother because at the end of the day the responsibility falls on her and no one else!

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That probably sounded better in the original german.Only a faschist can believe that anyone has the RIGHT to decided over the life and death of another.

Doktor Mengele laesst gruessen!

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Originally posted by jackketch:
That probably sounded better in the original german.Only a faschist can believe that anyone has the RIGHT to decided over the life and death of another.

Doktor Mengele laesst gruessen!

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Sometimes Ketch your posts are so sad and pathetic, how you think you can draw parallels with genocide and abortion are beyond understanding thats not what its all about and if you can't equate that you are a much sadder person than I gave you credit for!

In all honesty.

I'd most likely beat her gut with a bat. To make sure that baby was never born or kill her.

To be more direct: I'd ditch.

^^^Behold, another prince amoung men!
I was being mean and sarcastic in this post.

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Originally posted by Xiao Mei:
^^^Behold, another prince amoung men!

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\bows while fucking flood control

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Originally posted by Xiao Mei:
^^^Behold, another prince amoung men!

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Mmmmm time for bed for we Brits.......totes lacks a certain something tonight.

Intellegence.....that was it!

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Originally posted by blutark:


Intellegence.....that was it!

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O rly?

You want to bring some or shut the fuck up?

If I really liked the girl, I can say for sure that I wouldn't leave her.

If not, then I can't say how far I would go, but I'd probably be there for the kid. How would my relationship with the girl be, I have no idea.

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Originally posted by blutark:
Sometimes Ketch your posts are so sad and pathetic, how you think you can draw parallels with genocide and abortion are beyond understanding thats not what its all about and if you can't equate that you are a much sadder person than I gave you credit for!

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Well i probably am a much sadder person than even you could imagine:P

However in the interests of keeping this thread off the topic abortion i'll let you have the last word on this.

I'm 20 now, and when I had just turned 17, slept with this girl a single time, and we were thinking she was pregnant.

She went to get tested, and if she was pregnant, I was planning to run away clear across the country, because the whole baby/child-support/responsibility thing was just too much. The girl herself wasn't someone I wanted to have alot to do with, either - on a relationship level. Still got along fine as friends, but I did not like the idea of us being mother and father of the same kid.

I hinted at abortion while on the phone with her once, and she said she just could not 'get rid of it', and I figured "K, well that's that," and didn't bring it up again. I told myself that if she was pregnant, I was absolutely running away, without telling her or anybody.. also told myself that I'd try to send money here or there, but thinking back, I don't know if I would have when it came down to it. I had somewhat of a plan for when I got where I was going, but it probably would've gone to shit.

Anyways, she got tested, wasn't pregnant. Was one of the shittier experiences of my life, cuz I'm a pretty decent guy, and would definitely not behave like 'a boy' if I was put in the same circumstances today.

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Originally posted by jackketch:
Only a faschist can believe that anyone has the RIGHT to decided over the life and death of another.

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You are the fascist telling people what they may or may not do...

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Originally posted by DuckWarri0r:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jackketch:
[b]Only a faschist can believe that anyone has the RIGHT to decided over the life and death of another.

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You are the fascist telling people what they may or may not do...[/B][/QUOTE]

Silence! Jack is right. As always.

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Originally posted by RogueWarheart:
Silence! Jack is right. As always.

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Don't be an idiot.

I am 19 years old, I plan on never fathering children. I'm not too keen on the whole marriage thing either. If I was in a situation where I impregnated a woman I would make clear my desire to not have the child. Infact she would already know very well that I am not interested in breeding.

I first would mention the option of abortion, I wouldn't harp on it, I would just say that I feel she should get an abortion. It isn't my place to tell a woman what to do with her body. After that option is likely turned down I would point out adoption and ask her if it is worth throwing our lives and education away to have this kid.

If she were to come to the conclusion that she wanted to keep it for whatever reasons, irrational or otherwise, I would stay with her. I wouldn't marry her though.

I'd be in the childs life one way or another no ifs ands or buts about it and even take on being a single dad if need be.

I prommiced myself years ago that the girl I impregnate I marry on the spot, make it work, or I have a very active role in the upbringing of the kid.

For all the people that are more prepared to run than stick around it takes two to make a kid and if you're not responsible or mature enough to understand that yet... you probably shouldn't be fucking around with anyone without excepting the consiquences...

As for abortion if she desides to do it it'd be a fucking heartbreak on my part due to wanting to be a father but it is her body... I probably wouldn't be able to stay with someone that would do that to a kid of mine unless in a very seriouse relationship and still then it may go my own seperate way.

Only way I'd take off is if the kid came out black and chineese, I'd be ruined emmotionally that someone could do that to me and wouldn't be able to stick around no matter what the relationship meant to me.

Incase you're wondering I'm 22.

I wouldn't be dumb enough to fuck up and get her pregnant in the first place. But let's say the odds just screwed me and it was that 1% of the time the contraception doesn't work....

No I wouldn't abondon my kid or the woman carrying it.

I turn 20 next month if you are wondering how old I am.

To the people who say that it is the woman's right to decide, and her's alone, i COMPLETELY disagree.

Because it ISNT just her life. If she has the kid, it WILL fuck up the fathers life if he is forced to pay.

And it takes two to tango, yes? Excluding the cases of rape, the woman played just as big a role in getting pregnant as the male did getting her so, so why shouldn't he have a say?

just my 2 cents.

That said, if i got a woman pregnant, I would like to say that i'd do the manly thing and stick by her...But it would really depend on the circumstance's. Chances are that i wouldnt stick my dick anywhere that i didnt care for, so the odds are with me staying.

I'm 16 btw

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Originally posted by Gunlock:
To the people who say that it is the woman's right to decide, and her's alone, i COMPLETELY disagree.

Because it ISNT just her life. If she has the kid, it WILL fuck up the fathers life if he is forced to pay.

And it takes two to tango, yes? Excluding the cases of rape, the woman played just as big a role in getting pregnant as the male did getting her so, so why shouldn't he have a say?

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I gotta agree with this. I think the woman has the right to decide wether or not she wants to actually have the kid. But with the femanists crying for their abortion rights comes something else, if she has the kid against the fathers wishes I don't think he should have to pay support for said kid. Not saying I still wouldn't, just saying that he should have that option. She fucked up just as much as he did.

On the subject of abortion itself I haven't come to a solid opinion. I don't think it should be abolished completely as there are definitely instances where it is needed(ie giving birth will kill the mother for example). Actually I really don't give a shit anymore, the world is overpopulated already and I hate people. Abortion legal, abortion illegal, I don't care. But this is off topic.

Beating her gut in, at the first time you hear of "any pregnacy" does wonders. FTW.

Seriously. That would be my solution.
Another would be slip her something, that causes a miscarrige. That would be better. Far less likely to be proven caused by you.

With that said,
I'm a fucking scum bag. ha.

Ditch her if i could get away with it.

Is this a bad time to admit being a fascist?

Not too sure what I'd do being faced with a situation like that. I guess to need to analyse all the variables involved. Too much to think about it.

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Originally posted by RogueWarheart:
Silence! Jack is right. As always.

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LOL i wish!

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Originally posted by jackketch:

LOL i wish!

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Don't doubt yourself.

Your, I think... The best poster on TOTSE. You'd make a great mod.

It would really vary depending on the woman. Personaly, option #1 would be abortion. Then depending on who the woman was, my second response may or not be a DNA test. Of course, I'm not likely to date that type again.

I would probably marry a woman if I got her pregnant, unless I was sure for some reason or another that it wouldn't work out.

My current girlfriend and I would probably take turns kicking each other in the ass, as we've decided that we never want kids (bad genetics).

yeah i reckon id stand by the girl, id need to get a job tho to give some kind of support to the mum tho.

No, I would be there reguardless. If I loved the girl enough to have sex with her, I'd father my child. And I wouldn't just be a father, that's too easy, I would be a Dad. because that's something I never had; something every child deserves.

here's how i think it works (and i'm a woman). i tell the man that i'm pregnant, and ask his thoughts about it. if he doesn't want me to have the baby, but i want to, then i make the choice based on that knowledge. if i decide to have it, i can't expect him to be a part of its life. although i believe that most men would have it in their hearts to include themselves somehow regardless.

oh, and for the record, i probably wouldn't keep it.

Firstly, I'd never want to 'get rid' of my own child. Also my fiance and I are waiting to do the dirty until we are married. But if she did happen to get pregnant and it was my baby, at any age I would stick by her... No question about it.

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Originally posted by jackketch:
recently i seem to be seeing more and more very young single mom's.

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I can guarantee that most of the kids are half black too (well in the south). And the (black) dad has done a runner. Funny that...

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Originally posted by naive_wisdom:
I can guarantee that most of the kids are half black too (well in the south). And the (black) dad has done a runner. Funny that...

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It's common in many parts for Africa for children to be looked after not by their father, but by the male relatives of the mother. There's so much promiscuous sex going on they have no idea who the father is so they never bother finding the biological parent.

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Originally posted by naive_wisdom:
I can guarantee that most of the kids are half black too (well in the south). And the (black) dad has done a runner. Funny that...

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Actually i live in a corner of england with a black population of almost 0!

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Originally posted by Shayde:
Not too sure what I'd do being faced with a situation like that. I guess to need to analyse all the variables involved. Too much to think about it.

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That'll work for me