Pyro technics are fun and I like them. Its pyro related random and its a thread have fun.

Ok so were back and you must admit the idea worked not only did we gain a few more users we increased traffic and got some good topics going so despite controversy you got to admit it is all good now

for the older memebers didn't it bring you back the days before prrt and the expermential oprrt everythign just fell into place there was good thread posting lots of fun shitty threads to manage/make fun of.. it was a jolly good time

anyways i hope you guys enjoy youur prrt back :P

enjoy

-warweed

ps i think we she work out some kind of system so prrt is closed for a day 2 every now an again to incoarage new traffic flow

i agree it was nice
but prrt is good too

~Arete

Swany, I'll try and get in touch with you sometime this weekend. Sorry I haven't been on much. Busy stuff :-(.

ahh yes nice to be back

P.S. its attack of the n00bs

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Yes a Tusanoobie has hit BB. And now I agree that closing PRRT did bring some life back in to BB but it's good to be back.

In other news i've made all my CuSO4 I just need to go get some sodium chlorate then I can start to crack on with the synth.

It's back! This is good and bad heh. But I'm pretty happy now it's back!

Edit: warweed: "ps i think we she work out some kind of system so prrt is closed for a day 2 every now an again to incoarage new traffic flow" (I dont feel like quoting it the right way now.)

Yes, very good idea. A must.

Edit2: Just because it's back doesn't mean we can't post out of it if we have something interesting to share


[This message has been edited by kwstag (edited 03-04-2006).]

can you guys delete the threads you close because it makes me mad when i click on the hot topics on they are closed plus it will keep the noobness down

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Originally posted by Ozzy Osbourne:
can you guys delete the threads you close because it makes me mad when i click on the hot topics on they are closed plus it will keep the noobness down

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They shouldnt come up in "Hot Topics" unless you're surfing around the KFB textfile archive, which isnt something you should do anyway. Otherwise all Hot Topic threads are from SG (except in certain cases where NOTT threads show).

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Just finished letting off (almost) all of my devices, kind of had a pyro day today. Shame I couldnt set off my bottle salute though.

what do you guys recomend buying KNO3 as stump remover i saw grants for $6 a pound and $2 a pound for green light is there any diff except price?

I refuse to use prrt. So please spare me the spitting at the wall and do not say "PRRT!!" in my posts.

-thanks

Why? That's why it's here. You're cool in my book, so I won't respond with what I otherwise would ("What makes you better than everyone else, so that you don't have to use PRRT?"), but I'm curious. I'll be around more to answer PRRT questions, and I'm sure the rest of the team didn't slack off while I was busy.

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IM BETTER THEN YOU BECAUSE IM SEXY AND HAVE A BIG HAMMER AND AM A MOD AND I DON'T LIKE PRRT SO THERE


smiley whore




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No sir. I really want to det some of the stuff I have but I can't due to my location right now and temporary pyro ban.

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Originally posted by Ozzy Osbourne:
what do you guys recomend buying KNO3 as stump remover i saw grants for $6 a pound and $2 a pound for green light is there any diff except price?

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Greenlight has the most KNO3 content.

ozzy i talked to you about that already on MSN.. and im sure you could order it if you want it that bad..

How I loathe you, ww. (Kidding).

Welcome back indeed.

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ozzy i talked to you about that already on MSN.. and im sure you could order it if you want it that bad..

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you didnt say jack shit all you said was i order it off the intraweb
EDIT: hahah i got a dozen mason jars for free i picked up a pack at the store and put it on the bottom rack of the cart and she forgot to ring them up

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Is it normal when dissolving sodium nitrite in HCl that the solution first turn yellow? I assume this is because the HCl is decomposing into H2 and Cl2.

I heated the solution to speed up the dissolving process, but it's still yellow after a few minutes. When is it supposed to turn into nitrous acid?

Potassium nitrate in HCl turns green, then yellow. It doesn't decompose, it forms KCl and HNO3.

So, you think I have NaNO3?

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Potassium nitrate in HCl turns green, then yellow. It doesn't decompose, it forms KCl and HNO3.

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Doesn't a lot of it not turn into HNO3 though? So you have a big mess of KNO3, HCL, HNO3, and KCL?

Ugh it takes too long to read through all of one of the PRRTs...

It fully reacts, depending on which reagent is limmiting. If the nitrate is limiting, you will have HCl, HNO3, and XCl. This mix of HCl and HNO3 is also known as aqua regia, if you ever need to dissolve gold.

Doady, I thought you said nitrate, not nitrite. I suspect you have HNO2, HCl, and NaCl. If it didn't bubble, it didn't make H2 or Cl2 gas.

I was bored and decided to make a little "cannon". I had about 2g AP/2g ANAL and put it in a film canister in that greenish tube. then from the other end, slid some ANFO in there and put that little advil container in. It blew the one whole side out almost and scarred my yard, while shooting the advil container out pretty damn fast making a hole in the top and "scarring" where it hit...
lol.. Pic: http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=qpqmth

Edit: I got a vid too.. Real small det but as I've said before, I'm grounded and banned from pyro anyway.

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Double Post.. Two differnt things though.

I got some stuff from the BATF today.. All kinds of info and application forms for permits and lisences etc.. Pretty interesting.. I'll take some pics of the forms and stuff later, wow looks like a pain in the ass.. Everything from things about you, to finger prints.. Questionnaire... Wee. I'll either give this to my dad or save it until I'm 21

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Doady, I thought you said nitrate, not nitrite. I suspect you have HNO2, HCl, and NaCl. If it didn't bubble, it didn't make H2 or Cl2 gas.

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It didn't turn blue, though

Nitrous acid is pwnage. If somebody had that color eyes, i would sex them.

This is a little out of place as it's not BB but this is the only place that would know, so is it safe to inhale caffeine?

Caffeine sublimes so would it be just as safe to inhale it as it is to drink/eat it?

You can smoke it, so I'd say its not too dangerous.

One question about PRRT:

I know it reduces clutter in BB but don't you guys often get the same questions over and over? there is almost 30 PRRTs and it would take a very long time to look through them all. But a search would find any threads that are about a specific question in BB alot faster. So isn't PRRT inefficent?

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Nitrous acid is pwnage. If somebody had that color eyes, i would sex them.

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*Tosses hair back and bats eyes while giggling*

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Originally posted by Spatula Tzar:
*Tosses hair back and bats eyes while giggling*

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Pics? :P

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Originally posted by Spatula Tzar:
*Tosses hair back and bats eyes while giggling*

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::fap fap faps::
haha
and I was just about to say what powertothemonkey said, PRRT's tend to have many repeat questions in them, as well as being extremely long and hard to get through, especially if you miss reading them for a few days(cough, computer grounded hehe). It isn't that it's a bad system, but I think we need to either a: have a predetermined limit on length, or, b:make different ones. I believe there was a rocket related random thread, and having an HE related thread would greatly helpful.
but then again, making it more specific defeats the purpose of the "random thread" and puts more crap on the board. ah well. anyone else have ideas for PRRT's in the future?

I say just put random things in here, but also post your questions in the forum if you think someone else might ask it.

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You can smoke it, so I'd say its not too dangerous.

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so would it be the same effect that a vapoo has with weed? You get the same stuff just less toxins? And, smoking it can't be good for you...

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Originally posted by Ozzy Osbourne:

you didnt say jack shit all you said was i order it off the intraweb
EDIT: hahah i got a dozen mason jars for free i picked up a pack at the store and put it on the bottom rack of the cart and she forgot to ring them up

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You sir, are a mastermind

You know thet rattle when you shake a can of spray paint? I figured out what it is, and all it took was a little dynamite.

I had a nearly empty can of spray paint lying around, and I though it would be a good test for me to finally use my dynamite. I taped it to the can, along with another stick of dynamite. The primary on the second stick failed, and I needed to dispose of it.

Lowered into my blast pit, it went off with a suspiciously quiet boom. I suspect the primary burst the can, but did not fully detonate the NG. Checking the pit, the two sticks were obliterated, and the can split in half nicely. My alligator clips now have splashes of gloss black on them.

In the pit, I found the secret to the rattle. 1.6cm in diameter, with a weight of 5.1 grams. All sources claim the rattle is a metal ball bearing, but it's actually a marble.

Oh, and I have a picture, but I hate it. I'll try to take another one once I get my eyebrows waxed.

If all you noobs just read ALL the PRRTs, you wouldn't have so many questions to have to ask now would you? Sure reading information almost exclusivly related to your topic is faster, but it is much more likely that you will miss something as it has enivitably been said before, and perhaps no one wants to say it again.

If every noob simply read ALL the PRRTs (are they still archived after the recent "crash"?) we wouldn't have all these crap threads that we have.

They bring noobs up to speed, pose questions, answer questions, explain chemistry/pyro/explosive concepts, and much much more.

Sure its a long read, but you can never have too much information considering your life could potentially depend on it in these hobbies.

Personally i love to read long threads, its a sign that they are stuffed full 'o info! On the other major pyro/chem forums i leave the short threads to check last when i am searching for info on something. BTW, the "my favorite primary explosive" thread on roguesci is a HUGE load of info/ideas/concepts/inspiration on so many different and interesting explosives (7pgs), if you havn't read it, i would strongly suggest doing so. (as long as you have a pretty good understanding of chemistry, otherwise you will be completly lost in technical talk)

Sure, for the most part the PRRT turns in to a big thread to tell everybody what has been going on with you, as in devices, current projects, and ideas, but id rather have it than tons of little threads over them separatly.

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lol. I thought you meant you despised the picture of the marble. But yeah, you actually read my posts! and nitrous acid blue is pwnage.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/wolfhound/ct1.jpg

Hawt. Actually it looks cooler with light shining through it. Lighter blue.

i bought a 2,000 mL beaker today for 12 bucks. its real nice.

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Hawt. Actually it looks cooler with light shining through it. Lighter blue.

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When you made your nitrous acid, how long did it take to dissolve the sodium/potassium nitrite in the HCl?

Well, no vacuume gauge, mannitol, brass fittings, or other stuff...

But...

I started making my sweet ass black denim foundry/carpentry/pyro KILT! Yes, a KILT! I have like 15 safty pins in it now (It actually looks like a full fledged kilt as is) and will have it completed probably by next weekend. I have to make a ton of custom modifications though including a hammer loop, drill loop, specialty CD player/radio/ipod pocket, 2 cargo pockets (probably around 2 beer each capacity wise), possibly a pocket for a lighter, pen loops, measuring tape clip on thing, and some more stuff if i can think of it... so... help me out!

Spatula, what would you specifically like to see in a kilt? No, Seriously though.

I think I would seriously laugh my balls off if Tzar ended up being male.

asilentbob: Pockets. Lots and lots of pockets.

[This message has been edited by TheAlmightyVineMan (edited 03-05-2006).]

Silentbob why do you want to wear a skirt? Affraid of fully coming out of the closet or something? lol jk matey

It dissolved easily and turned colour quite quickly.

And no beaker compares to this beast - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/wolfhound/beaker.jpg

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I think I would seriously laugh my balls off if Tzar ended up being male.

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Originally posted by TheAlmightyVineMan:
I think I would seriously laugh my balls off if Tzar ended up being male.

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It's not quite that simple, but I assure you, everyone will have a good laugh.

Bob, how long are you going to make the kilt? Personally I would make it ankle length so it can double as a protective apron. What colour denim? Assuming classic blue, go for dark yellow thread with heavy visible stitches. It needs some sort of decorative hem, maybe a sinusoidal stitch pattern looping around.

If you want a bit more flair, cut out patches of the same material in interesting shapes (maybe a cartoonish cannonball bomb, or a stick of dynamite), and sew them on by the border. Details like a lit fuse can be filled in with radial stitches, or embroidery.

If you want the skirt to fly outwards when you twirl, add a few lead weights to the hem.

Lots of pockets may seem like a good idea, but it also means more places to collect dirt and lint. Stick with loops. Many items will suffice with a single loop, but things like beer bottles will need three: two horizontal and one vertical to prevent it falling down. It will end up looking like a cargo net. The exception is fragile items like music players. They should have a flap of denim covering and protecting them.

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If you want the skirt to fly outwards when you twirl, add a few lead weights to the hem.

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Wtf, you'd better be a chick

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Originally posted by Spatula Tzar:
It's not quite that simple, but I assure you, everyone will have a good laugh.

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you gay by chance or truly female ? because i know alot of trannys that call them self shes when really they got a sack hanging low and that bugs me not much but it does mainly cause i jokingly hit on some one that i think is a she he says he is a she and she has a sack ... so i dunno

care to elaborate in private or on msn at my user name at hotmail dot com

Frankly, you annoy me warweed. I find your superior macho attitude pretentious, especially when you pay no heed to grammar or spelling. It makes me less willing to share with you.

Only Stupid Noob knows my secret, and he respects me too much to tell anyone. I do miss him...

If its a "secret" then I say tranny too..

meh i respect your honesty not many people would stand up and say that if you wish it a secret then a secret it shall be

cheers

-James

Ps i know i have a problem with grammer but then again it is one of my traights

but if your willing to speak via msn im willing to listen as to better improve myself as a moderator

Hey, a lot of people honestly tought that *I* was female for quite some time.

Last time I'll ever post that ninja-chick-pic of mine

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Only Stupid Noob knows my secret, and he respects me too much to tell anyone. I do miss him...

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Where'd he go, I havent seen him lately.

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Originally posted by TheAlmightyVineMan:
I think I would seriously laugh my balls off if Tzar ended up being male.

asilentbob: Pockets. Lots and lots of pockets.

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Indeed, well, my target audience is hot chicks, gay guy... hot chick... either would sorta be able to make a kilt hot in the eyes of another chick... hopefully.
Rest assured, there will be plenty o' pockets.

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Originally posted by Spatula Tzar:
It's not quite that simple, but I assure you, everyone will have a good laugh.

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o_O Well... ill still have resprect for you since you are good at chemistry/pyro/Li extraction ideas!

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Bob, how long are you going to make the kilt? 24-25" (not perfect seamstress) Personally I would make it ankle length so it can double as a protective apron. Yep, kinda where the foundry and carpentry come into play. What colour denim? Black. Assuming classic blue, go for dark yellow thread with heavy visible stitches. It needs some sort of decorative hem, maybe a sinusoidal stitch pattern looping around. white yellow, orange and red would go together on black pretty well, id go with a basic flame design, but they are by far way to over used IMO. Perhaps some classic pyro quotes. (He who hath smelt the smoke... etc)

If you want a bit more flair, cut out patches of the same material in interesting shapes (maybe a cartoonish cannonball bomb, or a stick of dynamite), and sew them on by the border. Details like a lit fuse can be filled in with radial stitches, or embroidery. Hmm... perhaps... perhaps... perhaps...

If you want the skirt to fly outwards when you twirl, add a few lead weights to the hem.
I'm not one to twirl, besides that, i don't think it would work with the kilt well.
Lots of pockets may seem like a good idea, but it also means more places to collect dirt and lint. Stick with loops. Ill have both. Many items will suffice with a single loop, but things like beer bottles will need three: two horizontal and one vertical to prevent it falling down. It will end up looking like a cargo net. Nice idea! The exception is fragile items like music players. They should have a flap of denim covering and protecting them.

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Hell, ill just upload 2 pics of it so far in a second. I actually have to get most of it sewed up before i continue as i have ran out of safty pins.

Edit: Fixed code to be readable.

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Where'd he go, I havent seen him lately.

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He moved back to his hometown, waiting for his old siren of a girlfriend to get out of jail. I tried to talk him out of it, but he was quite persistent. I think he can get internet access at a library, so I'll try emailing him.

Ah that sucks.

Aspirator:
aspirator

Kilt:
Frount
Back

It comes down to about 4-5" below my knee cap, long enough to not flash anyone if i put my foot up on a chair in a "captain morgan" pose. If anyone is interested, i originally got the idea to buy/make a kilt from:
Utilikilt.com
About a year ago.

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Only Stupid Noob knows my secret,

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For certain. There are those of us with suspicions. And yes, SN should get back here!

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Originally posted by Spatula Tzar:
He moved back to his hometown, waiting for his old siren of a girlfriend to get out of jail. I tried to talk him out of it, but he was quite persistent. I think he can get internet access at a library, so I'll try emailing him.

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You serious? Talking to him on msn he once said he was thinking of moving back with her but i thought nothing of it...So no more Joe?

Edit: New totse name, old one was PowerToTheMonkey...I got bored with it...

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He said his old girlfriend got arrested for drug charges (apparently she dealt in morphine), and he is going to be there for her when she gets out (years). So he moved back home and got a McJob. I kept telling him he could find better work, and there was no point in waiting in the same city, but he wouldn't listen. Despite everything she's done to him, he's fallen in love with her once again.

I'm sure he'll be back, but I have no idea when. He said he has internet access at the library.

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He said his old girlfriend got arrested for drug charges (apparently she dealt in morphine), and he is going to be there for her when she gets out (years). So he moved back home and got a McJob. I kept telling him he could find better work, and there was no point in waiting in the same city, but he wouldn't listen. Despite everything she's done to him, he's fallen in love with her once again.

I'm sure he'll be back, but I have no idea when. He said he has internet access at the library.

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Damnit...I enjoyed talking to joe...He also got me to burn most of my nose hairs : \ Wasn't that the girlfriend who doesn't approve of his explosive hobby? Also I added you on msn Tzar...Same goes with other totseans...

Well, she disapproved of several hobbies.

Yeah but I can think of another "hobby" of his that wasn't as good.

Edit: Also Tzar do you have a pic yet? :P

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Are we talking ex-girlfriend:

Mother of his daughter?
The girl he ended up with after that?
Someone he met after he was roomies with some guy?

From what I heard, that is pathetic. Sorry.

I almost fell off my chair when I saw he was online.

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Are we talking ex-girlfriend:

Mother of his daughter?
The girl he ended up with after that?
Someone he met after he was roomies with some guy?

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It's Allison, the girl he was with for about three years. She's a bit of a pyro too. He sent me a picture of the two of them breathing fire.

Ha! He just IM'd me while writing this! But he left before he could say much.

Hey hey fuckers. Back again.

Took me a few seeks but I got my old mcjob back, they want me to be a manager in about 2 months. The girl (allison0 is in jail for quite a while, and I don't know if I want her or not. It's nice being alone. My pyro will start as soon as I get some cash flow.

And don't worry Tzar, your secret is safe with me. As for the other chick, well, its hard to be fucking a girl when her fiance is in another room. Living a lie like that can be stressful. Not to mention me and her started to fall out. I still like her, and plan on having her come see me if she will.

As for my "down time" nothing but lots of sex and drugs. Oh, and I'm a singer in a heavy metal band now too. e dont have a name, but oh well.

While i was gone, lots and lots of work, around 60 hours a week, then after that just music sex and drugs. I have had no comp to post with, so im using a neighbors. And forgive my spelling and grammar, not much time.

I think theres more, and i will add when i have a chance.

I got this one very small cap thing and drilled it to size of this copper pipe, and what do you know... I finished the burner injector! I have to figure out how im going to stabilize it first, but once i do i can test it and hopefully make a very nice torch flame.

HW...

Stupid noob i love you!! I forgot what I was about to say... Oh yes, ventrilo or w/e is fun and you guys should get it and contact me for the server info until that pyro line is up.

Anyway.. James your crazy and I love you damn canadians.

I think im in love with Tzar, i might start stalking her..well only if she really is a girl.

Good to see you, SN. Haven't been on too much, nor able to check my mail. I need to get in touch with both you and Swany. Been under a lot of pressure lately.

So, as to not spam the shit out of BB, I figured i'd post this on PRRT. i was out launching my spud gun today (pneumatic, 4"x12" chamber, 2"x4' barrel) and i was getting distances of about 130 yds at 100 PSI. is there any way that i can get more distance and such? What are distances that you guys get from this type of setup? thanks.

you barrel to chamber ratio is off try increasing the chamber if 4 inch to 48 inches your barrel to 1.5 to 92 inches as well what kind of valve you using ?

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As for the other chick, well, its hard to be fucking a girl when her fiance is in another room. Living a lie like that can be stressful.

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If that's true, you make me sick. How can you do that knowing she's in a relationship?


I know, I'm no better then you, we're all bad, blah, blah, blah, but seriously, that is really bad.

SN, I love you and all, but, man, that's messed up.




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I think im in love with Tzar…

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Aren't we all?

Anyway, has anyone else sat and watched a vial(probably not the right word, but 6 flights in 4 days killed my brain), of MEKP? I'm seeing tons of little bubbles forming on the blob of MEKP. Kinda interesting, but I think I should use it soon.
Roguesci seems to have disappeared... Eerie.

Ahem:

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I'm a transsexua l.

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http s://www.to tse.com/bb s/Forum3/H TML/229118 -3.html

Don't curse me, curse my erily accurate memory.

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Ahem:

https://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum3/HTML/229118-3.html

Don't curse me, curse my erily accurate memory.

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And your inability to link....

*Jumps out window*

Just browsing through some old stuff and found this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/30-06/reasembled.jpg

Wonder how many of you'se remember me taking to my RC plane with 10g flash salutes.

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I'm a transsexual.

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hey one of my best friends is a tranny very smart and gifted gal ...
nuce red dress she sewed to :P

frankly some of the best friends i have ever had are considered "socially" unacceptiable

hell i have 3 friends actually that are tranny there all some of the nicest 'gals' i have ever met

so tzar if or if not you are in fact a tranny hell your still one of the better pyros we have on here so regardless of me being a asshole im still glad to have you here

-James

-Cheers

pwnt

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Made you look.

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Whatever he is, who gives a shit? It shouldent change anything that we do or talk about here.

spatula is myth

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Whatever he is, who gives a shit? It shouldent change anything that we do or talk about here.

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I give a shit.

It's just something for us o joke and laugh about. There's allways been little rumors and mysteries such as Viney being black and
the test tube of ******* that I have. People keep asking me what it is but it's fun to keep a secrect and have a joke and a laugh at times.

LoL. Black viney. Ozzy is gay, we all know that. Spatula is cool and smart. starknife is a noob who likes ventrilo and shooting AP with his airsoft gun. warweed is a drunk canadian. 30-06 is a mom loving aussie who won't tell me his age. K9 is a nice man. Moko hasn't been around too much lately, but is in love with his quote page and gets mad at me when i dont say who said the quotes . asilentbob is [INSERT WORD HERE], or cool heh. DOTI is an HNO3 addict. spunky likes to blow up monkeys. Declan is fascinated by AP. blinky is a nice, cool, not around anymore really guy. hell fire is nice. nuclear is a mean potato sometimes. Spoony likes movies. smokey forgot how to spell and boiles glycerin in his kitchen. freak was great. Aprentice = Totally COOL. lacrima reminds me of my brother. totaljackass sounds like one of my teachers a lot of the time. Arete likes seperatory funnels. Ressotami is a smart guy. RedSky was the biggest noob. Toxicwboy never blew his car up. stupid noob is finally kind of back. Pyrology is the man who started the vent chatrooms lol. Random_Loony is sexy and likes big guns. Swany- When I hear that I think of the little guy getting hit with the toilet- Don't You?
EtC.. I'm so bored.. I can't really synth my HDN or ETN today as expected because of the snowy weather. ungodly is a baby and likes to drink yellow HCl.



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Not around often

Sometimes I even post from the uni, during free hours.

As for Spatula, she lives in a place far, far away, where down is up, and wasps are unwilling jet-engines.

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hehe I remeber those.

lol.

I just finished taking 10 Lbs of NaNO3 and turned it into a fucking super fine powder with my new coffee grinder. I stole it from my friend.. Unopened.. Cost him 70 bucks ahah, its 1337. I finished conc. H2O2, now I finally have more (100mL of 30% lol). Now I'm going to go out and see if Baquacil is available and get some more NH4NO3 cold packs..

Then I will powder 1 LB of Erythritol I have, make some super shitty HDN real quick, and see if I have time for ETN (not feeling like it)


Laters!

Just a little teaser for you, boys.

Sorry about the bad quality, but the DMV isn't exactly renowned for their photography.

I like your hair.

Just a little teaser for you, boys and girls: http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=qsur91

LoL Sorry, like I said I'm real bored..
That's about half of what I have right now, being detted soon.
Edit: Yes, I know screw on lid is a no no but I'm careful don't worry..

[This message has been edited by warweed12 (edited 03-06-2006).]

Does anyone here have the IM handbook (also, could someone tell me what "IM" stands for) and the Poor Man's RPG?

I have the Kitchen Improvised Fertlizer Explosives if anyone wants it.

[This message has been edited by Dream of the iris (edited 03-06-2006).]

ill gladly take a copy

I think it is the "Improvised Munitions" handbook, i probably have it in some form or another, ill check.

Edit: Nope, sorry, closest i have is improvised primary explosives. I think i have all the KIFEs though...

Edit2: I had a random idea today on how to solve the whole fight for the holy land thing. Basicly it involves china's army locking down the whole area (middle-east) and then going water-drip torture on everyone's ass to get confessions and shit, then it is evacuated completly and deemed a no-mans land.

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Originally posted by hell fire:
I give a shit.

It's just something for us o joke and laugh about. There's allways been little rumors and mysteries such as Viney being black

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My race is nothing to joke about dick

Yeah! Don't be a racist fuck!

Bob, I think I found it. Thanks anyway, man.

Sorry vineman I was only repeating what I read before I did'nt mean to offend you. Im not racist in any way.

Damn, I need money. And no, I aint gana sell charges, ozzy. I think I might sell myself for money. Off to the street corner in my assless chapps....

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Originally posted by hell fire:
Sorry vineman I was only repeating what I read before I did'nt mean to offend you. Im not racist in any way.

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im not racsist either. I saw hell fire type that and though he was joking.

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Originally posted by Spatula Tzar:
Just a little teaser for you, boys.

Sorry about the bad quality, but the DMV isn't exactly renowned for their photography.

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haha. Ya should have edited out the background! I know where you live...

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Originally posted by Sentinel:
haha. Ya should have edited out the background! I know where you live...

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Really? So do I.

Maybe I should post the whole pic some time...

I'll do it for you when your ready.

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Originally posted by Mokothar:
Not around often

Sometimes I even post from the uni, during free hours.

As for Spatula, she lives in a place far, far away, where down is up, and wasps are unwilling jet-engines.

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That was a cool artical...

All of this is definetly Pyro Related Random thread. and BTW kw, you fuck face, how did i not make your list? i *suggested* the idea of ventrilo.

5:3:2 KNO3/S/Al
Wow that was bright white, I'm practically blind now.

Anybody have experience with golden powder? I'm pretty sure I cooked mine at too high a temperature, 'cause it's quite dark and doesn't burn as I would have expected. More like smoke mix, but it leaves a lot of black ash/slag.

I'm not on any lists and it doesn't bother me.

lol babies. ill add you now

What is this list, and how many times am I on it? Because if it's less than thirty...

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Originally posted by kwstag:
LoL. Black viney. Ozzy is gay, we all know that. Spatula is cool and smart. starknife is a noob who likes ventrilo and shooting AP with his airsoft gun. warweed is a drunk canadian. 30-06 is a mom loving aussie who won't tell me his age. K9 is a nice man. Moko hasn't been around too much lately, but is in love with his quote page and gets mad at me when i dont say who said the quotes . asilentbob is [INSERT WORD HERE], or cool heh. DOTI is an HNO3 addict. spunky likes to blow up monkeys. Declan is fascinated by AP. blinky is a nice, cool, not around anymore really guy. hell fire is nice. nuclear is a mean potato sometimes. Spoony likes movies. smokey forgot how to spell and boiles glycerin in his kitchen. freak was great. Aprentice = Totally COOL. lacrima reminds me of my brother. totaljackass sounds like one of my teachers a lot of the time. Arete likes seperatory funnels. Ressotami is a smart guy. RedSky was the biggest noob. Toxicwboy never blew his car up. stupid noob is finally kind of back. Pyrology is the man who started the vent chatrooms lol. Random_Loony is sexy and likes big guns.
EtC.. I'm so bored.. I can't really synth my HDN or ETN today as expected because of the snowy weather.

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Is this "The list" You guys are complain about? It was on page 2. Damn, 113 posts allrety!

Could someone point me in the direction of some good grinding media that I could find locally?

Cheap and possibly lead?

I hate ordering via internet =\

Dammnit. I didnt make the list.

Hey mister Random Looney, we need to talk sometime. Been a while.

Anything profound happening here? I see PRRT is back.

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Originally posted by Swany:
Anything profound happening here?

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Well, people were discussing the rumors that I might be a lesbian/guy/transsexual, but they seemed to have gone off on pyrotechnics. Let's get back on topic, people.

I'm trying to make HCl from HNO3 and NaCl.Do you guys think it will work.

P:S:My Chem teacher sucks dick

HNO3 + NaCL -> HCL + NaNO3

( Nitric acid + Sodium Chloride -> Hydrochloric acid + Sodium Nitrate


Then i'd save the NaNO3 and possible make more HNO3 by adding the NaNO3 to some H2SO4

NaNO3 + H2SO4 -> HNO3 + NaSO4

It would be cheaper to just buy HCL and save you'r HNO3.

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Originally posted by hell fire:
HNO3 + NaC[b]l -> HClNaNO3

( Nitric acid + Sodium Chloride -> Hydrochloric acid + Sodium Nitrate


Then i'd save the NaNO3 and possible make more HNO3 by adding the NaNO3 to some H2SO4

NaNO3 + H2SO4 -> HNO3 + NaSO4

It would be cheaper to just buy HCl and save you'r HNO3. [/B]

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I assume you mean NaNO3 + H2SO4 ==> HNO3 + NaHSO4

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Originally posted by DREX:
I assume you mean NaNO3 + H2SO4 ==> HNO3 + NaHSO4

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oops yeah thanx DREX

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Originally posted by CCCP:
I'm trying to make HCl from HNO3 and NaCl.Do you guys think it will work.

P:S:My Chem teacher sucks dick

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You can get HCl at Home Depot for about $2 a gallon.

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Originally posted by Spatula Tzar:
Just a little teaser for you, boys.

Sorry about the bad quality, but the DMV isn't exactly renowned for their photography.

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i think ive seen that pic before

[This message has been edited by Ozzy Osbourne (edited 03-07-2006).]

lol sorry Swany, you're on now.. Who else did I miss?

PS. I never got to make my HDN or ETN because it started to snow the day I was supposed to!!
omg wtf hax

Edit: Get HCl at the hardware store etc. under the name Muriatic Acid... Used for etching concrete, changing pH's in pools, cleaning porcelin and metal...

As hell fire said, save your HNO3 for something better.. That would be a waste.

[This message has been edited by kwstag (edited 03-07-2006).]

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Originally posted by Toxicwboy:
Could someone point me in the direction of some good grinding media

Cheap and possibly lead?

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For a ball mill?. Fishing tackle shops sell big led balls that are fine for ball mills.

i never found any at fishing shop i just got 50 cal lead shot for muzzle loaders

EDIT IM STARTING A BID AT 1 DOLLAR TO SEE A PIC OF TZAR

[This message has been edited by Ozzy Osbourne (edited 03-07-2006).]

Whered you get your pic from? I have one directly from her but I will not give it out unless I get her permission. Maybe not give it out at all, she can do it if she wants to, so fuckoff Ozzy Noobo.. and I texted you and you didnt reply pussy
___
LoL.. James: "omg hax".."you rockzorz my sockzorz"
Edit: Jesse.. (30-06).. LoL Opera.. You mom loving aussie!! I'm not a cunt eye aha. And james made us do it we were on ventrilo and we had a deal and the drunk canadian fucked us over.

..BACK TO THE FUCKING PYRO RELATED STUFF:
I'm going to try and distill some HNO3 on Friday and then make 50g of HDN and try and convert it to RDX, while "distilling" (using my nice hotplate) H2O2 to 30%, while measuring out some stuff for ETN.
- James. KClO3+H2SO4... Flash+H2SO4.. Not too much of luck. I know my KClO3 is legit, idk about the KClO4 and Al blah.. Any way to test for legitness? I'll make a quick new topic for it.



[This message has been edited by kwstag (edited 03-07-2006).]

I'd like to publically apologise for posting personal information about one of the regulars here.

I'm very sorry, and hope you can forgive me.

Please no replies or questions about this on board, I will not reply or answer to anyone not involved in this.

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Originally posted by CCCP:
I'm trying to make HCl from HNO3 and NaCl.Do you guys think it will work.

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Nope. The two wont react. But you can use acetic acid.

NaCl + HCH3COO -> HCl + NaCH3COO

Ozzy, you don't have permission to post my image, and the mods would destroy you if you did. The profit rights are mine. Bidding starts at 10g of KClO3.

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Originally posted by Spatula Tzar:
Ozzy, you don't have permission to post my image, and the mods would destroy you if you did. The profit rights are mine. Bidding starts at 10g of KClO3.

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20 g

I can get reagent grade OTC

^^Going once...

lol. I have the pic too!! And cmon Spat.. 10g of KClO3? Ill send you 10g for free if you want I think I have like 30-50g left and use it for nothing really.

Ozzy I can get 100% pure KClO3.. Blah. Less than 20 for 1 Lb.

Make that 10g for a nude pic. HAHA



[This message has been edited by kwstag (edited 03-07-2006).]

Kwstag, your boiling to concentrate your H2O2, not distilling, distilling is condensing the vapors.

I wore my kilt half the day today, it was pretty comfortable, everyone said it wasn't a kilt till it was tartan or plaid though ... One suggested adding koozies as specialty beer pockets, neat idea, they might bring a few tomorrow...

But anyways... Besides this i am almost finished on a massive painting i started and i am contemplating selling it for $200-500. Only problem is the whole thing was distorted when the frame bent under the massive stress. Whatever... i got connections...

Bob, you know you need to show us a pic of your painting.

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Originally posted by Swany:
Hey mister Random Looney, we need to talk sometime. Been a while.

Anything profound happening here? I see PRRT is back.

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Hey, man. Yeah, I should have some space Fri. to get in touch. Not too much pyro related, unfortunately. Been really busy :-(, especially with family issues.

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Originally posted by TheAlmightyVineMan:
You can get HCl at Home Depot for about $2 a gallon.

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Concentration?

31.45% IIRC...

I'd show it, but i don't want to fidgit with uploading pics...

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Originally posted by Mokothar:
I'd like to publically apologise for posting personal information about one of the regulars here.

I'm very sorry, and hope you can forgive me.

Please no replies or questions about this on board, I will not reply or answer to anyone not involved in this.

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No hard feelings.

bob your correct. I've been getting really confused lately I MUST FOCUS!

Instead of spamming up the PRRT, I made a new thread for discussing me. See you there.

i never said i would post a pic

If you guys need to talk about or give out personal info, dont do it here. This place is constantly "watched" and I dont think they wouldent like having some very personal info on you. However, if you need to post your location dont get any more specific then general location in your country. Example, Midwest USA.

Yes, because they couldn't figure that out from your IP address

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Originally posted by Dream of the iris:
Yes, because they couldn't figure that out from your IP address

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Ever heard of TOR?

No.

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Originally posted by Spatula Tzar:
Ever heard of TOR?

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Hehe i've got TOR. It's running but I dont know if it's working lol how can you tell if it's doing what it's suposed to do ?. Im crap with computers.

Any help is aprechiated.

TOR is aight, but I just use a simple proxy, that goes threw another, that goes threw another. I feel unsafe still...

"Tor can't solve all anonymity problems. It focuses only on protecting the transport of data. You need to use protocol-specific support software if you don't want the sites you visit to see your identifying information."- http://tor.eff.org/overview.html.en

[This message has been edited by smokeymcpot420 (edited 03-08-2006).]

This link will only work if TOR is installed properly.

screw proxies. They are slow and sucky. https is good enough for me. I'm sure the BATF has bigger fish to fry than a kid playing with flashpowder in his garage.

Nice going K9, now everyone will spam PRRT talking about me. And why the hell would you ask a question and then lock the thread?

You just lost ten spatual points.

I haven't been able to get online for a few days. I missed this place. Haven't done much pyro though, and it sucks.

My job here is to keep the forum clean and that's what I'm doing. Regardless of any points system.

On that note, I would not like to see any more posting that is so unrelated to our forum in this thread.

Does anyone know of any flamable binders/ adhesives that are enviromentally safe?

Theyd be used to bind many small paper/ wood chip like particles into blocks. Its for a certain project i might attempt.
Any help much apreciated

So, now that Tzars thread is closed, what do you all think of her picture?

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Originally posted by ExplodingTeeth:
So, now that Tzars thread is closed, what do you all think of her picture?

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If you really feel the need, make a thread in half baked. This thread is for pyro related matters.

You're so mean Mr. Doggy mod. It's as if you don't even care about me.

Nitrocellulose will work.

Holy fuck that was fast..

Ok let me clear this up here. I did not intend any offense by the lock. I'm just trying to keep the forum clean. That thread did not really need to go here.

I have nothing against you or anyone else. I'll unlock it for now and see what anyone else has to say. But I think I'll just end up relocking or moving it.

Too fast of a burn rate. I need something with a burn rate perferibly consitant to wood. And the cheaper the better....If anyone has any ideas please shoot em out there. Thanks

spatula do you have any pic of you spatula collection?

Nitrocellulose mixed with camphor. It can be conviniently found in the form of ping pong balls. Add a bit of wood pulp for an even slower rate.

well i started work on my new lab/blast chamber. most of it will be underground, so i have to dig a lot. my blast chamber is going to be made after i am done with the lab part.

as for the the info...she knows something about something. is it the vineman,moko, warweed lesbian orgy? or do you want to show us how to make a sex toy for men?

Would anyone be interested in a synthesis writeup with pictures for sodium polysulfide for use in DDNP preparation?

If it's easier then making picric, yes. Make a write up for that R-salt

http://www.geocities.com/houseofk9/ctmtna.htm

I did this a while ago actually. Not much different than what I posted here I think.

The sodium polysulfide isn't too hard at all, but it's just used in going from sodium picramate to picramic acid. It's just that sodium sulfide might be a bit tricky to purchase though I know for sure you can get it from chemical suppliers.

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Weekend swiftly approaches. I am aware of one monsterous test left, then freedom, sweet freedom all spring break. My father suggested that i work on pyrotechnics, and i surly will for some part, though i am out of potassium nitrate. So i only have like mabey 2lbs. of BP to distribute toward shells and possibly rockets... not much... Atleast i will finally be able to make some nice stars. I may have to try benzolift. So many things to try...

I just had a throught of coating flake Al with NC for rocket additive for some reason.

Hey doesnt moko live in Belge?

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Originally posted by TheAlmightyVineMan:
You can get HCl at Home Depot for about $2 a gallon.

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Yeah , but i would like to keep a ''low profile''

^^Don't wear shoes and hunch a little when you go in there.

Oh Snap!

Acetone + H2O2 = Exotherm. Nothing drastic like boiling, just very warm.

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Originally posted by CCCP:

Yeah , but i would like to keep a ''low profile''

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Yeah because it has no other use except for explosives

I just told the casheer lady that I had to clean up the driveway, she accepted it without a second thought.

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Originally posted by nuclearrabbit:
Acetone + H2O2 = Exotherm. Nothing drastic like boiling, just very warm.

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True but it doesn't exactly get too warm.

Just buy the acid. You can even get someone else to do it for you, if you dont want to.

K9: Check alternate photo suppliers for a whole plethora of awsome chems, sodium sulfide included, at very reasonable prices.

If you want the direct supplier, shoot me an email. They are the type of company that would ship to Canada, I belive.

Who said this was being monitored? Are we talking about the Aussie Gov. or US?? Because in the future I will be posting all kinds of pictures and videos from me etc.. Little treats for the class Such as big stupid dets... New stuff.. Lab pics to drool over, hehe

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Originally posted by kwstag:
Who said this was being monitored? Are we talking about the Aussie Gov. or US??

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This site and many other sites related to pyrotechnics and drug chem are watched by the authorities from possibly all arround the world.

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Originally posted by ADP9:
Hey doesnt moko live in Belge?

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Yes, and ...?

wtf you guys have problems buying hcl ? heh i buy it buy the case

BTW do yu guys do if you can buy acetone by 5 gallon buckets at home depot or lowes?

this roxors my soxors im sittin here surfibg teh intraweb on a lap top in english

Just in case some of you missed it.

www.rctparadox.net/dreamoftheiris

New vid under "Dust explosion".

Great.. and on Page 2 I have a pic of 52.0 grams of AP...

Fuck the po-lice. haha

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Originally posted by TheAlmightyVineMan:
Yeah because it has no other use except for explosives

I just told the casheer lady that I had to clean up the driveway, she accepted it without a second thought.

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Thats a good idea.I have a bottle of ''Muriatic acid'',but its very shitty because its not a HCl/water solution,but a HCl/bioingredients and i tried to concentrate it without any success .

Ozzy:I think you can buy acetone ,but 5 gallons would be suspicious.

Spatula:I've done the synth and I think ure right.No signs of a reaction,no gas no nothing.

P:S:25g KClO3 100% for a nude pic


[This message has been edited by CCCP (edited 03-08-2006).]

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Originally posted by 30-06:
^^Don't wear shoes and hunch a little when you go in there.

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Hilarious. Two thumbs up.

I have a gallon or so of HCl and it hasn't exactly found many uses besides a bit of Copper chloride, AP, HDN, attempted metal powdering, and dissolving some pennies.

BTW, since your parents are ok with your chemistry hobby, why not do your shopping with them? I see no need to go "covert" trying to get chems when you can just tag along when getting grocerys... dumbasses...

Edit: Yes, that was pretty good 30-06, if i get it that is... and im 80% sure i do.

Edit2: Working in the ATF laboratory would be a pretty sweet job, just analyzing misc samples of substances all day...

Edit3: Whoa! You can take an ATF - Chemistry of Pyrotechnics and Explosives course taught by Dr. John Conklin (A guy who wrote one of those famous pyrotechnics books if im not mistaken) Unfourtunatly, you have to be a Bomb technican whose mission is the disposal of energetic materials.

[This message has been edited by asilentbob (edited 03-08-2006).]

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Originally posted by TheAlmightyVineMan:
Yeah because it has no other use except for explosives

I just told the casheer lady that I had to clean up the driveway, she accepted it without a second thought.

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^^ she asked??

5 GAL of Acetone suspicous? Not at all... It's absolutely not.

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Originally posted by kwstag:
5 GAL of Acetone suspicous? Not at all... It's absolutely not.

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It's all down to the seller to decide if it's suspicious. One day maybe fine then you might do it again and have unwanted people at you door asking you questions about you'r purchase of tone.

5gal of Acetone is alot I would'nt keep that much solvent in the house.
1. You do'nt need that much tone.
2. If there's an acident you'r whole house/lab will go up in flames bringing attention to you'r hobby. Shit would turn from bad to worse in a matter of seconds.
3. Large quantities of tone might actually be watched by the LEO because of what certain people use tone to acomplish.

Just think be for you do. This is just basically my opinion on the matter but as everyone will agree safety first. I do'nt want to see anything bad happen to another pyro.

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Originally posted by starknife:
^^ she asked??

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Yes, but then again you dont see many 14 year olds (oldschool, yo) buying 2 gallons of HCl. She just asked something like "Whats this stuff for?". Just tell them you spilled oil on the driveway if its an issue.

True hell fire.. But still it's Acetone. I'm 15 now.. but had no ride at the time.. So I walked to the hardware store by my house and bought 2 Gallons of Acetone, 2L of H2SO4, 1 GAL HCl, and a container of NaOH (Lye..) all at the same time while I was 14 and the guy was like laughing and said what do you need all this for young man, and I told him I was doing a project on drain cleaners and different effects of different types of pipes and he was like "cool. good luck!".

But my dad usually buys me all my shit so I'm good.. But back to the Q.. It's acetone.. Used for hundreds of different things.. Nails.. Paint.. Cleaning etc.. Not too suspicious unless you live in Australia etc.. Where AP is used for terrorism.. USA doesnt have too too much knowledge on AP. Just the ATF and FBI etc..

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Originally posted by CCCP:
Ozzy:I think you can buy acetone ,but 5 gallons would be suspicious.

P:S:25g KClO3 100% for a nude pic

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Buy a few cans of paint while you're at it to remove suspicion.

A mere 25g for nude pictures? I can make $1000 for that, why should I settle for anything less?

Oh, and Mokothar, you owe me 20 grams. I'll take the 10g from kwstag too.

is the hcl you guys buy tinted yellow or is it clear?

Clear.
omg hax look ozzy i have a pic of you! http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=r05e1t

ahahaaahha!!

Have some that's clear, but it turned a pretty yellow-green when I hollowed out some pennies. copper oxide, I believe...
correct me if im wrong. But the good stuff should be clear.
and Im not on the list. damn you kwstag!

EDIT: Just realized I'm a total fuckhead, its zinc chloride, not copper oxide. lol, selfpwned

[This message has been edited by ungodly (edited 03-09-2006).]

Wrong. Zinc chloride. Although the yellow tint could be from impurities on the copper. You can't get oxides in a chlorine solution.

But yes, HCl should be clear.

Omg hax. Look, your there now!

im watching some hot ass chick vacuum ozzys house now lmfao.

and fuck using a proxy at my house to go on Totse, i dont give a shit whos watching this..

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Originally posted by Spatula Tzar:
Wrong. Zinc chloride. Although the yellow tint could be from impurities on the copper. You can't get oxides in a chlorine solution.

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oh yeh, forgot, the coppper doesn't disolve in the acid. heh, I haven't been doing chemistry for a while and I'm just feeling like a fuckhead tonight. oh well. ::goes off to edit::

I walked out of wallmart with 3 bottles of Acetone, 7 bottles of 3%H2O2(all they had), and a bottle of acid. The person at the counter was like WTF!?!? Then I was like, "O, ya" and put a lighter on the counter..... HAHAHA.... God, I need $$..........

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Originally posted by ungodly:
oh yeh, forgot, the coppper doesn't disolve in the acid.

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Copper does react with HCl, just not as much as zinc. A bit of H2O2 or electricity speeds it up.

(Moko) Oh I guess that was random ha. I just needed to ask you a question. Can I email you? I dont know what yours is but mine is adp9201 at gmail dot com.

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Originally posted by Sentinel:
mythbusters is gay. Fuck them

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................ ...............

Not as bad as Brainiac.... man that show was bad.

This is why Myth Busters rocks.

Spatula, I checked, and tried it, and you rediscovered the Copper oxychloride synthesis, when you electrolyse Cu in HCl. Let it sit for a day or weeks, and you will have copper oxychloride, which is a rather expensive and practical chem for blues...

Can you point me to more info on copper oxychloride? Google is not being friendly. And yes, it does burn blue. This could finally be the ameteur solution to blue stars.

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Originally posted by Spatula Tzar:
Can you point me to more info on copper oxychloride? Google is not being friendly. And yes, it does burn blue. This could finally be the ameteur solution to blue stars.

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Be nicer to google then caused I found heaps on it a while ago. I tryd for months to get a blue comp to work with copper oxichloride, best I got was a white strobe comp that I stumbled on.

..All the blues I got to burn as dry powders were too hard to ignite as a star and never really burnt propperly. If you get one to work let us know cause its a bitch to get a blue star out of it. Had a few tests that made a really cool purple flame with a blue tinge in the center though.

whoever asked: you an all reach me at: Mokothar@gmail.com

Screw webbots, totse's got a somewhat decent robots.txt


Spatula: I owe you 20 grams how? as in, what for?
I'll send you some for free if you can find a way to cover expenses of shipping.

[This message has been edited by Mokothar (edited 03-09-2006).]

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Originally posted by nuclearrabbit:
This is why Myth Busters rocks.

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Shes a vegetarian, automatic 0.

She can munch on my cucumber when ever she wants.

Dude, I got to watch some hot bitch vacuum ozzy's house lmao! and i saw his mom and dad. then his mom pwnt the vacuum bitch. and he showed me his tiny wang ouch

Seems that copper oxychloride decomposes at relitively low temps, about 140, though this may just be a cracking of the molecule. It is used primarily in 'sugar blues' with a strong oxidiser (KClO3), lactose, cu oxychloride, chlorine donor, resin fuel, and dextrin to bind. These all burn relitively cool, and thus color saturation remains good. Medium burn speeds also make it attractive. I cannot quote any exact ratios for you.

Part of a quoted post from the old APC, by Crazy Swede: "...Many modern formulas rely on copper oxychloride (Cux(OH)yClz) which sometimes can produce very good blue stars without any problems with compatibility or hygroscopicity. But because the material can vary in structure and copper content, some brands will work nicely while others might produce lousy results. Actually, not less than 18 different structures of copper oxychloride are known! The most common seems to be Natural Atacamite (Cu2(OH)3Cl) and Brunswick Green (CuCl2 x 3 Cu(OH)2 x 4 H2O).

Some of the best and cheapest blues are based on using a mixture of both copper oxychloride and basic copper carbonate. Some people believe that the reasons for success in this combination are the additional chlorine from the copper oxychloride and the flame expanding property of the basic copper carbonate (from the carbon dioxide that is produced when the carbonate dissociates!)."

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Spatula: I owe you 20 grams how? as in, what for?
I'll send you some for free if you can find a way to cover expenses of shipping.

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Ozzy, you don't have permission to post my image, and the mods would destroy you if you did. The profit rights are mine. Bidding starts at 10g of KClO3.

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20 g

I can get reagent grade OTC

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damn stag your hyped about that chick ehh? BTW it only cost $1700 XD

She had a nice ass.. And a $1m700 vacuum? LMFAO.

Anyway.. I'm still waiting on synthing HDN and ETN.. fucking school / grades.

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I know dude, she is hot..... But I think that guy is like.... a little weird.... Talk about a "shrine".....

vineman whats your proxy addres?

I wish i had 30-06 on msn...and that warweed accepted me on msn...wait...i didnt add warweed...

^^Why?

I finally finished another explosion video. The first one is filled with water, and the second is filled with ice.

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I dont know, i just want your email...I have Vineman Tzar, modzilla ect..But no warweed or 30-06

its I_AM_30_06 @ hot mail dot com

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its I_AM_30_06 @ hot mail dot com

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Yay!

god damn these forums are slow noone ever posts

Some of us have lives, and even more of us actually do stuff, rather than hit refresh.

My camera is 1000 miles away. No Cr aqueous chemistry pictures today.

I would have posted pics of a sparkler bomb, its all I have to offer, but I dont know where my camera is...

kwstag, you're a fucking idiot and you're no better than a kewl.

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I had an idea...
AgNO2 + C6H4Cl2(para) ---> AgCl + C6H4N2O4
You should be able to replace Ag with Pb2+, but if i remember correctly p-dichlorobenzene is very stable. I also havn't found much on lead(II) nitrite, probably for some good reason. Perhaps it can be synthesized somewhat along:
Pb(OH)2 + NO + NO2 ---> Pb(NO2)2
as i believe i read that sodium nitrite can be synthesized by:
NaOH + NO + NO2 ---> NaNO2

I wonder about the feasability of using a Birkeland-Eyde reactor, except passing the gases through NaOH solution to synthesize nitrites instead of dH2O for HNO3...

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I had an idea...
AgNO2 + C6H4Cl2(para) ---> AgCl + C6H4N2O4
You should be able to replace Ag with Pb2+, but if i remember correctly p-dichlorobenzene is very stable. I also havn't found much on lead(II) nitrite, probably for some good reason. Perhaps it can be synthesized somewhat along:
Pb(OH)2 + NO + NO2 ---> Pb(NO2)2
as i believe i read that sodium nitrite can be synthesized by:
NaOH + NO + NO2 ---> NaNO2

I wonder about the feasability of using a Birkeland-Eyde reactor, except passing the gases through NaOH solution to synthesize nitrites instead of dH2O for HNO3...

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dude AgCl is the stuff they use in the auto adjusting glasses, IIRC, and im not sure if youre the other person on this forum who enjoys pottery besides me but you should throw some glass with that mixed and see if you can get it to change in light
that would be some sick shit
ive been really busy lately everyone, so sorry i havent been around
more MEKP dynamite this weekend, but mostly just running 5 miles everyday and eating good, ive gained 11 lbs since i cut candy, most fast foods, and soda out of my diet, and im running a 4.7 40, which isnt too bad considering it was 2oC outside when i ran it

but ill get back around to pyro soon, and im not sure if ive already posted this, buuut its a funny video of me destroying the remains of that snowman, this was the 4th det in that spot and he was pretty much destroyed except for this rubble. the original was 22 seconds but GV sped it up and cut some out for some reason
enjoy http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-598315509095682999&q=150+grams

just listen to my friends hahaha
makes it all worth it


~Arete

Kwstag, next time use sulfur. It wont explode, but is every bit as evil.

Oh fuckoff Vine. blah ill delete it since you are pussies.. you dont know what else this kids done to me anyway so stfu.

Edit: Yes, I led the angry, stupid side of me out today.. I just didn't know what to do to the kid.. He's a Soph.. I'm a fresh........ He always fucking bothers me etc...


Stupid action yes, but you still wont understand how bad he is.
Great you made me sound like im fucking 5 ^^

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Thats a very interesting idea arete, i have a friend that has those kind of glasses... I bet the concentration would be pretty low, but it might be worth a shot for the hell of it. Or perhaps if i made a glaze out of it so that you could glaze clear and clear doped with AgCl next to each other and when exposed to light designs would appear.

Hmm... ill have to add this to my ideas list and do some research...

Edit: God damnit, i alway need NaOH!!! This time for lead(II) hydroxide...

Edit2: photo-oxidation
Pretty decent info, a ratio of glass to CuCl and AgCl is still needed though... As i see it it should be 1:1 AgCl:CuCl by moles.

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lilmore
Says common .01-.001% AgCl, then again, this is in glasses where just a slight tint is desired. I wonder what a .1% would be like. The biggest barrier i can see is side reactions with the glass/glaze fluxes.

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yeah im gonna look into that too, it would be nice if anyone over in the art forum liked pottery its just you and me in here. its a cool idea, and the glass wouldnt necessarily have to be clear, maybe a green would be cool or another color, so you could make a contrast changing sculpture...

oh and the thermite thread was a joke for whoever deleted that, my friend just asked me that and i told him murder/suicide
lol

Kid Charlemange is a kickass name...

.KC.

Biggest NC synth in totse history done today?????? Possibly but I highly doubt its biggest but damn was it fucking big. I did a HUGE NC synth today at school, I used 300Mls of 98% H2SO4 and 300mls of HNO3 70% and a lot of cotton balls. I ended up with 81grams of SEXY SEXY BAD ASS SEXY NITROCELLULOSE AKA GUNCOTTON AKA NC. I brought 40grams home and im going to attempt to detonate it with either a Mercury fulminate cap or a Acetone peroxide cap.

Also i finally got my sexy orgasmic trunk of chemicals out of storage. There was moer shit then I even rembebered. I Have so much Iodine, and i got HNO3, Ethanol,H2SO4, LiNO3, SrNO3, Mercury, Methanol, Mg, BaNO3, KMnO4, KClO4, KClO3, Sulfur, and so many many more chemcials and a few graduated cylanders some beakers, tubes over 250ft of fuse, and other shit.

Also I plan on doing some dets tommorow.

Bleh my mum is starting to have second thoughts about gettng into pyro from when i first asked her, though i think i might of added to her nerves when i said i was going to buy 25kg bag of KNO3 (easer to buy in Bulk) but now i suppose she thinks the neigbourhood is going to blow up if a fly lands on it, any suggestions as to put this in a more positive light?

I was thinking if explained the small yeild of the devices and how there designed to entertain rather then destroy and also how the bulk bag wll be stored safely and sealed away.

Im hoping that when she feels familar and knows that im responsible with LE's then hopefully i can begin synthesising HE's

Also has anyone living in western australia had experince with ordering chems? Are they incredibly suspcious or lax because there are lab reagants that are callng my name but i dont want the police to bust down my door.

hey guys id like to introduce myself
im new here to totse.
well not really ive been following up on the posts in BB for like 3 years but never got the chance to sign up for a new name.
started from being a kewl following acb then found EP's site when it was still funtional, came to totse learned low explosives, black powder, flashpowder from M80's, done a little bit of the mines. then switched to high explosives , first started with acetone peroxide and MEKP, hmtd then with various nitrations nitroglycerine, nitrocotton using brainfever's site. got caught by cops june2005 and havent done anything since. i just wanna hang around and post.

-shimstar

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got caught by cops june2005 and havent done anything since. i just wanna hang around and post.

-shimstar

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what did you do?