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Old 2006-03-08, 14:38
PyroHydroSmok PyroHydroSmok is offline
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Default The *Official* "This does NOT make dope!" or "Meth Myths" Thread

Mods I think we should take the time to educate some of the newer folks around here about some of the most famous "Meth Myths" floating around here.

1. No mixture of Gun Bluing/Ammonia/Roofing Tar/Charcoal buried or not buried in a hole will make M.A.

2. Spraying Raid on an electrified grid of wires will NOT yield M.A.

3. Meth does not just Magically appear from colemans fuel somehow.

Please feel free to add.
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Old 2006-03-08, 21:24
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ARGON GAS can be used in place of anhydrous ammonia.

Argon gas was rumored to be useful in place of anhydrous ammonia; however, this myth was based on the fact that a company called "Airgas" manufactures a high-purity form of anhydrous ammonia called "ammonia blue."
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CARPENTER'S CHALK contains red phosphorus that can be used in the red phosphorus production method.

Commercial red carpenter's chalk closely resembles red phosphorus but cannot be used in place of red phosphorus.
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Manufacturers of CHICKEN FEED add ephedrine or pseudoephedrine to the feed, and the chemicals can be extracted and used in methamphetamine production.

Ephedrine or pseudoephedrine has never been added to chicken feed.
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CREATINE can be used to produce methamphetamine.

Creatine is a dietary supplement and is not useful in methamphetamine production. Creatine has been used as a diluent for methamphetamine, cocaine, and ketamine.
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Methamphetamine can be produced in a FISH TANK using CHARCOAL and GUN BLUING, among other items.

None of these items contain precursors necessary for methamphetamine production. This myth has been circled since the early days of the "birch" and is based on a misunderstanding of the 'blue' color in the birch - which is the result of the solvated electron in said process.
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Methamphetamine can be produced by passing an ELECTRIC CURRENT through an ALUMINUM SCREEN sprayed with FOAM INSECTICIDE.

The resulting compound does not contain methamphetamine, but some methamphetamine abusers reportedly have used the substance as a cutting agent (diluent) for methamphetamine. Insecticide is toxic when ingested, injected, or inhaled by humans.
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One of the chemicals in FIX-A-FLAT tire repair can be used in place of anhydrous ammonia to produce methamphetamine.

Some tire repair products contain a minute amount of ammonia, but it cannot be separated from the solvents.
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HALON from halon fire extinguishers can be used in place of anhydrous ammonia in methamphetamine production.

Halon fire extinguishers contain no chemicals that can be used in place of anhydrous ammonia. Lab operators often use empty fire extinguisher canisters to contain anhydrous ammonia stolen from storage tanks.
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Anhydrous ammonia can be obtained by freezing HOUSEHOLD AMMONIA.

Water cannot be frozen out of ammonia in a household freezer.
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HYDROCHLOROTHIAZIDE can be used in methamphetamine production.

Hydrochlorothiazide is a commonly prescribed blood pressure medication that cannot be used to produce methamphetamine.
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JEWELER'S ROUGE can be used in place of red phosphorus.

Jeweler's rouge does not contain red phosphorus, although it is similar in appearance.
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Ephedrine or pseudoephedrine can be extracted from MINERAL BLOCKS such as SALT LICKS.

Mineral blocks including salt licks do not contain ephedrine or pseudoephedrine.
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Red phosphorus can be extracted from incendiary SHOTGUN SHELLS, particularly Dragon's Breath shells.


Dragon's Breath shells are constructed with a propellant charge and particles of zirconium metal. Shotgun shells typically contain no red phosphorus.
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Ammonia can be extracted from SMELLING SALTS.

The quantity of ammonia in smelling salts is minute, and the product would be no more useful in methamphetamine production than trying to use household ammonia.
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Red phosphorus can be obtained from the heads of "STRIKE ANYWHERE" MATCHES.


"Strike Anywhere" match heads contain phosphorus sulphide, oxidizing agents, powdered glass, and glue. Red phosphorus cannot be extracted from the matchheads.
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Old 2006-03-11, 06:24
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Default Re: The *Official* "This does NOT make dope!" or "Meth Myths" Thread

bump for this man.
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Old 2006-03-11, 07:24
PyroHydroSmok PyroHydroSmok is offline
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Default Re: The *Official* "This does NOT make dope!" or "Meth Myths" Thread

Funny you should mention the smelling salts thing... I know someone with a giant surplus of army issue smelling salts just sitting around in giant boxes. I thoght it would be awesome to try and harness all that anhydrous ammonia... I bet it can be done.... If anything I bet I could do it
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Old 2006-03-11, 10:21
hugh jorgen hugh jorgen is offline
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the gun bluing thing is a real bitch. ive heard and keep hearing about this particular method. you dont have to take it from me but heres what ive found.
i tried this bullshit several different ways, buried the shit for 21 days, the whole 9 yards.
i did some serious research on this shit, mainly because i wanted to come back on this site and post that all the o.g.'s were wrong and i was fuckin right. alright and also because i thoght id be nigger rich white trash by takin this simple ez way out.
this is what i came up with.

- this method will not, absolutely will not produce D in any way remotely possible .
- it will, if the right gun bluing is used(and the shit has been out of production for several years now, so good luck) and you follow the "procedure" of one of the fairy tale ways, you will get some growth to occur. this growth is a somewhat complicated crystalization process that i have a hard time understanding in the chem books and ultimately ended up walking away from this whole crazy mess frustrated. not to mention my pride stung a lil bit when i had to come back here and admit that.....well you get the point.
the reason i chose to elaborate on this particular urban legend is because i keep hearing about it constantly. the thing is is that all these people talking about it know someone who knows someone who does it this way. yeah right. i have yet to actually see even a small bit of proof from myself or anyone as to the validity of this "process".
by the way if anyone ever has an urban legend question and want someone to let them down in a nice way- talk to the guy a couple of replies above. my man bongtech(by the way that was a very thorough myth buster thread and informative, god your edu-ma-cated and smart doooode) will let you down easy without callin ya names and tongue whippin your ass for bein a schmuck. ol bongeroo bonzai is just cool like that. that fucker knows em' all too. he's almost a walkin D encylopedia if you ask me. so give up on this shit its all bogus . until they release uncle fester(yeah right) i dont think they''ll be any new advances in the speed underworld, so dont hold your breath. so get back to pushin and pullin and schuckin your matches, and stinkin up the neighborhood cuz for now thats the ticket. now ya know.....hoe....peace

....i got a hot date with one of them canisters up on the telephone poles and a couple of vicks inhalers.....maybe ill get lucky....wish me luck fellas.....
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Old 2006-03-11, 21:44
PyroHydroSmok PyroHydroSmok is offline
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Default Re: The *Official* "This does NOT make dope!" or "Meth Myths" Thread

I have to meet you one day hugh... I bet it would be interesting to sit down over a few grams of some short-dry tweaky shit.
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Old 2006-03-16, 04:14
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Default Re: The *Official* "This does NOT make dope!" or "Meth Myths" Thread

Hi pyro and everybody else. Guess who got released?
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Old 2006-03-16, 10:53
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Good Posting, but someone actually must have either lost all his braincells sniffing Krylon or be a complete dumbass to ingest insecticide. But the sad part about it is, if the idea was concieved someone actually did it.
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Old 2006-03-16, 19:00
PyroHydroSmok PyroHydroSmok is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by dreamalot:
Hi pyro and everybody else. Guess who got released?


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Old 2006-03-16, 22:29
dreamalot dreamalot is offline
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Default Re: The *Official* "This does NOT make dope!" or "Meth Myths" Thread

And you finally made mod too. Congrats.
So whatever happened to squeegee?
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Old 2006-03-17, 02:27
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quote:
Originally posted by dreamalot:
And you finally made mod too. Congrats.
So whatever happened to squeegee?



What do you mean what happened to me? I'm still waiting on a court date Good to see you back bro...I didn't know anything happened to you. Shoot me an email and explain a bit of what happened if you want to.
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Old 2006-03-18, 03:50
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Default Re: The *Official* "This does NOT make dope!" or "Meth Myths" Thread

Got an addy?
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Old 2006-03-18, 13:37
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quote:
Originally posted by dreamalot:
Got an addy?


top of the main forum page - Mods emails are 'highlighted' - linked to from their names under the forum title.

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Old 2006-03-19, 01:35
Shishananee Shishananee is offline
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Default Re: The *Official* "This does NOT make dope!" or "Meth Myths" Thread

Guess who's outta rehab?

Anyways, I just gave up on trying to make the shit. I like things that you just extract.

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Nice btw, there's a lot of bullshit, and the american media just loves to fire the shit in the form of anti-drug propaganda.

The funny thing is, stupid shit like this seems to weed out retards.

Love what's going on anyway.
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Old 2006-03-19, 05:21
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Default Re: The *Official* "This does NOT make dope!" or "Meth Myths" Thread

The blueing method was published by some book in HIGH TIMES in the 70's.

It was laundry bluing, amminio, salt poured over charcoal. It does make some crystal formations. Definetly pretty but not a drug.
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Old 2006-03-19, 13:24
hugh jorgen hugh jorgen is offline
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i havnt been around for a real long time around here, but i know some of the ol'familiars and dreamtoomuch definately is one of the names i remember from my start here at lab tips. so id just like to waste a second here and say congrats on what im assuming is a release from the shaved chimps cages. its always good to see freaks comin back to the darkside. the best side. now whatta you gonna do to stop it from happenin again? you could get a little craftier, become a better liar( not that you probably already a professional), tighten up yer game a bit and look out for # 1 a lil better, but it never hurts to raise your fist and march around and stand up for what we all think is fine behavior in this less that how do i say?.....fucked up, sick world. a motherfucker should be able to do and digest whatever he feels necessary in the privacy of his own confines. im all about pollutting my temple....dig- cuz its MY temple to do so. just wanted to say cool that your out, fuck the police, snitchin little cunts "die an awful death", and keep on keepin on. i always feel for a fellow freak that just had a chunk of his life raped from him by some bad-breath, polyester suit wearin, puppet for the evil reign of this hypocritical cunt-tree. you can buttfuck and marry your gay lover and raise a couple of fucked up kids in this cunt-tree but you cant mix a couple of substances that you can pick up at any local hardware hank and enter them into your vessel without gettin sweated by some hairlip stiffneck chip on their shoulder fagboys. i been in the tank with guys that fucked a 10 year old boy that were doin less time then some harmless, too smart for his own good meth cook. go figure. until us freaks stand up and say fuck this shit its never gonna change. people are scarred shitless of what they dont know about and what is brainwashed into their simple minds by the press and government.
i didnt mean to go into a ramblin man, welcome back to the "free world", good to see you found your way home. the gangs all here.........peace
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Old 2006-03-19, 13:28
hugh jorgen hugh jorgen is offline
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oh yeah....the original topic of this thread has some very kickass info, from some fairly smart thundercats, tryin to stay high and make a lil money. so........ BUMP......freaks..............peace( no for real this time)
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Old 2006-03-19, 15:56
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Well now, thanks alot hugh. It's nice to be welcomed back. And may I say I had no idea you were so ....elequent in words and sentiments.. haha just joking.
As a little lab-tip to all you tweaker fans out there...Be careful what you do with the matches you tear out of the box. In some places that constituents evidence. Shocking but true. And in some places a warrant is just a technicallity. These goddamn commenwealths.
Anyway beware. Or you could be in a tank with some fag who fucked a ten year old boy. As an interesting side-note, I recently made the aqqauntance of an individual who fucked not 1 but 2 twelve years olds 1 night. And then to top it off. The creme de la creme so to speak he had sexual relations with a 12 year old boy the following week. Yeah I remember seeing his affadavit. A piece of evidence to support these charges was, "A medical examination on the boy revealed he suffered from anal tearing.
EWWWWWWWWWWWWW.
 
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