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Old 2006-03-16, 00:28
rastapimp rastapimp is offline
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Default Iraq will never be united. Never democratic

Iraq can never be a united, democratic country unless it is broken up. It is made of different groups that could only be "united in the country" by an evil man as brutal as Saddam. Once again, the U.S. fucked up and shall lose. If you think otherwise, you are a fucking tool.
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Old 2006-03-16, 00:34
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Kuridstan maybe?
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Old 2006-03-16, 00:39
hellis hellis is offline
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Default Re: Iraq will never be united. Never democratic

quote:
Originally posted by rastapimp:
Iraq can never be a united, democratic country unless it is broken up. It is made of different groups that could only be "united in the country" by an evil man as brutal as Saddam. Once again, the U.S. fucked up and shall lose. If you think otherwise, you are a fucking tool.

This is one of the understatements of the century.The US has already lost, your troops are still dying almost everyday and is powerless to achieve anything they set out to do. Your President is useless internationally and domestically. I dont know how the impeachment prossess beguins, but prehaps it is time.
Unfortunately your there untill some tiny resembalence of peace is achieved, oh well.
Seeing this makes me even happier that Harper has the tiny minority Government that he has otherwise we would probably join Bush's next plan of idiocy.
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Old 2006-03-16, 13:56
TerminatorVinitiatoR TerminatorVinitiatoR is offline
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Iran is just waiting on the sidelines till the invaders leave, then BAM! you get a shia theocracy from basra to mosul, the shia deathsquads are already operating under the noses of the invaders, kurdistan will be independant, the sunnis will either be wiped out or leave.

i really cannot see the "iraqi government" lasting much longer than the length of the invaders deployment. they have about as much legitimacy as the russian sponsored kadyrov government of chechnya, and kadyrov was landmined to pieces.
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Old 2006-03-17, 18:54
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It's nothing but our new Ammo-dump. It's not meant to necessarily ever become either.
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Old 2006-03-17, 18:56
NeoIceshroom NeoIceshroom is offline
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Default Re: Iraq will never be united. Never democratic

Uhhhh...duh?
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Old 2006-03-19, 06:02
Boblong Boblong is offline
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Default Re: Iraq will never be united. Never democratic

"Iraq can never be a united, democratic country unless it is broken up. It is made of different groups that could only be "united in the country" by an evil man as brutal as Saddam."
Exactly, I don't know why the fuck people thought that it would work.

"The US has already lost, your troops are still dying almost everyday and is powerless to achieve anything they set out to do."
One of the main goals was to remove Sadam, that has been done. Why you said something so obviously false I have no idea.

"I dont know how the impeachment prossess beguins, but prehaps it is time."
The "impeachment prossess"(which you can't even spell) is basically the senate trying the president for a crime. Without a crime, it will not happen.

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Old 2006-03-19, 11:18
dearestnight_falcon dearestnight_falcon is offline
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Default Re: Iraq will never be united. Never democratic

The problem is, Turkey WILL invade an independant Kurdistan.
I hate it, because personally I feel that there SHOULD be an independant Kurdistan, but the only way it could happen is if turkey gave up about 1/4 of it's territory.
quite frankly, it might be better off apart. It WOULD require "ethnic cleansing" ie: mass population transfer.
But the same thing was done with Germany after world war 2. It worked then, can work now.

Fuck knows what happens now.
Unless you topple the fucking Baathists in Syria and the fucknut Mullahs in Iran, there isn't much point pretending that Iraq is going to be fine and dandy.
 
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