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| Conspiracy! This forum is about the unexplained, whether it's political hidden agendas, secret societies, clandestine operations, alien life, political assasinations, CIA trickery, Masonic sub-plots, and other bits of Truth. |
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View Poll Results: What do you believe?
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The U.S. carried out the attacks.
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The U.S. knew before hand but did not carry out the attacks.
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The U.S. did not know and did not carry out the attacks.
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#1
 2006-03-05, 21:14 |
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 PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801
Already posted this in IFIOTW, so don't bitch. I figured more people would see it here, and they need to. 80 minutes.
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2006-03-05, 21:14 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
ok it's loading
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#3
2006-03-05, 21:19 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
The government knew about it, no doubt. Did they ASK for it, maybe.
There were at least 2 shooters on JFK. No, it was not the driver.
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#4
2006-03-05, 21:21 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
Welcome to earth where the government tells you nothing and knows everything.
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#5
2006-03-05, 21:22 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
It's a great video, but it fucks up sometimes. Just go forward about 2 minutes, then go back once it loads. or refresh. But it convinced me.
The part about Osama, and him being left handed really convinced me that it wasn't al Quaeda.
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#6
2006-03-05, 21:26 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
Doesn't this belong in some other forum?
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#7
2006-03-05, 21:29 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
That guys voice is cool
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#8
2006-03-05, 21:32 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Originally posted by Myke:
There were at least 2 shooters on JFK. No, it was not the driver.
but...proof? |
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#9
2006-03-05, 21:32 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
I've seen the first one, and a lot of it raises some interesting questions. I'd recommend watching it.
Wrong forum, asshole.
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#10
2006-03-05, 21:40 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
i wish my internet connection was faster.
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#11
2006-03-05, 21:40 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm
check that out, and the whole site. it's pretty convincing.
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#12
2006-03-05, 21:41 |
The Shady Dealer
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Originally posted by Waving Pickle:
i wish my internet connection was faster.
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#13
2006-03-05, 21:44 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Originally posted by HeaT:
It's a great video, but it fucks up sometimes. Just go forward about 2 minutes, then go back once it loads. or refresh. But it convinced me.
The part about Osama, and him being left handed really convinced me that it wasn't al Quaeda.
Yeah never trust the Lefties... |
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#14
2006-03-05, 21:47 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
*yawn*
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#15
2006-03-05, 21:51 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
http://tinyurl.com/gupy8
Fox news has threatened to sue if this site does not take down this video.
*the truth is out there*
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#16
2006-03-05, 21:52 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
Its been proven there ws 1 shooter.
Even an 80 something yr man (ex marine) could get off 3 shots (taking a little more time for the last as oswald did) in about 7 seconds with an exact same rifle.
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2006-03-05, 21:53 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
You know, not a single jewish person was killed in the 9-11 attacks.
That's pretty interesting..
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#18
2006-03-05, 21:59 |
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2006-03-05, 22:00 |
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Originally posted by buttthrax:
*yawn*
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#20
2006-03-05, 22:07 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
+1
[This message has been edited by Deoz (edited 03-05-2006).]
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#21
2006-03-05, 22:10 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
i watched that entire movie, and i think that farenheit 9/11 is just as convincing. merge the two movies together and michael moore would be shot, as well as anyone who said anything about the govt.
death of totse, i predict.
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#22
2006-03-05, 22:14 |
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20 minutes into it, damn its pretty good.
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#23
2006-03-05, 22:15 |
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this video really makes me sick, my stomach hurts...
i can handle beheadings and people getting the shit kicked out of them
but this shit makes me hate america...
im 7 minutes into it and paused...
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#24
2006-03-05, 22:16 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
orginal.
http://tinyurl.com/lrted
btw, wrong forum.
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#25
2006-03-05, 22:18 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
Who gives a shit? Even if the government had a part in it, will it change anything? No. So stop bitching about it and continually bringing it up. It changes nothing.
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#26
2006-03-05, 22:21 |
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damn all of you with a fast internet speed.
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#27
2006-03-05, 22:34 |
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Originally posted by ytter_man:
i watched that entire movie, and i think that farenheit 9/11 is just as convincing. merge the two movies together and michael moore would be shot, as well as anyone who said anything about the govt.
death of totse, i predict.
Fahrenheit 9/11 is full of ambiguities, half-truths, and misconceptions. Pretty much Moore's style. I'm all for liberal coverage of the media, but his coverage is just as bad as the government's. I agree however that something is up with the whole 9/11 story, but we need to be aware that even the other side might not be telling the full truth I'm afraid. |
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#28
2006-03-05, 23:09 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
Damn, loading takes longer then the fuckin' film. And I have broadband!
I'm out...so I'll trust ya
DAMN Goverment and their little orange Oompa-Loompas. They were the real pilots!
Oompa-Loompas are crazy for planes!!!!
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#29
2006-03-05, 23:11 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
Tons of bullshit/didn't watch.
America FTW.
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#30
2006-03-05, 23:11 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
I'm pretty much convinced
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#31
2006-03-05, 23:12 |
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This is factually more watertight than Fahrenheit 9/11 if anything. Pretty good.
Apart from the time they recall the "B-52" that hit the Empire State Building in 1945. It was actually a B-25...
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#32
2006-03-05, 23:13 |
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Originally posted by r007 ph07oN:
[URL=http: //www.pent agonstrike .co.uk/fla sh.htm]htt p://www.pe ntagonstri ke.co.uk/f lash.htm[/URL]
check that out, and the whole site. it's pretty convincing.
nice movie! |
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2006-03-05, 23:50 |
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Originally posted by RevolutionNov7th:
This is factually more watertight than Fahrenheit 9/11 if anything. Pretty good.
Apart from the time they recall the "B-52" that hit the Empire State Building in 1945. It was actually a B-25...
Yeah after i heard that i watched it alot more critically, but alot of the other things make sence. |
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#34
2006-03-06, 00:01 |
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Thats pretty messed up.
You guys need to go do some revolutionary shit
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#35
2006-03-06, 00:04 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
wow if you didn't know that by now you're a moron. I said the government was behind it Sept 12th 2001
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#36
2006-03-06, 00:22 |
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fuck that im not waiting for that son bitch to load.
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#37
2006-03-06, 00:35 |
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Yall connections are slow as hell....Good video so far though....  |
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#38
2006-03-06, 00:46 |
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God this is all bullshit. How in the fuck could the government keep everyone's mouth shut and why the hell would they kill 1500 innocent people. You idiots are fucking retarded. Even if it is all true no one will change a thing.
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2006-03-06, 00:54 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Originally posted by SilentOp47:
God this is all bullshit. How in the fuck could the government keep everyone's mouth shut and why the hell would they kill 1500 innocent people. You idiots are fucking retarded. Even if it is all true no one will change a thing.
Why would they? Money and power. How could they? Money and power. The truth shall set you free...? |
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2006-03-06, 00:54 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
silentop makes a good point: none of you are going to change anything. but the fact remains that the government has done far worse things in the past.
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#41
2006-03-06, 00:55 |
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Originally posted by HeaT:
[URL=http: //video.go ogle.com/v ideoplay?d ocid=-5137 5819912882 63801]http ://video.g oogle.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801[/URL]
Already posted this in IFIOTW, so don't bitch. I figured more people would see it here, and they need to. 80 minutes.
Did You find this on the web? |
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2006-03-06, 01:02 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:
Why would they? Money and power. How could they? Money and power.
The truth shall set you free...?
So your'e saying that the lives of 1500 people are now on the heads of probably hundreds of government officials just to make a few extra bucks? Sounds like a crock to me and people that make these kinds of stupid videos have too much time on their hands. They complain all day but don't do shit about it but make a stupid movie and think they know everything. It's all bullshit. If the government is so tricky why isn't Micheal Moore dead for exposing all this or the guy from this movie as well. Let's say I think it was a conspiracy and I am going to tell everyone I know. Will the government do shit? I think not. |
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2006-03-06, 01:04 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:
Why would they? Money and power. How could they? Money and power.
The truth shall set you free...?
Yea.. the government really rolled in the dough from 9/11. Elaborate. |
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2006-03-06, 01:18 |
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Originally posted by The Emo Eater:
wow if you didn't know that by now you're a moron. I said the government was behind it Sept 12th 2001
me too...but it seems to have been archived now . and for some reason the totse board doesn't allow archive.org to index it. |
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2006-03-06, 01:27 |
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i just watched the full video.
im so scared
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#46
2006-03-06, 01:38 |
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stupid garbage
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#47
2006-03-06, 01:44 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
I've posted this before too.
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2006-03-06, 01:46 |
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Originally posted by SilentOp47:
So your'e saying that the lives of 1500 people are now on the heads of probably hundreds of government officials just to make a few extra bucks? Sounds like a crock to me and people that make these kinds of stupid videos have too much time on their hands. They complain all day but don't do shit about it but make a stupid movie and think they know everything. It's all bullshit. If the government is so tricky why isn't Micheal Moore dead for exposing all this or the guy from this movie as well. Let's say I think it was a conspiracy and I am going to tell everyone I know. Will the government do shit? I think not.
If you watch Farenhype 9/11 you will learn why Michael Moore isn't dead and his movie went out in theaters. The guy that made this movie probably is dead or lives outside of the U.S. it's not bullshit dude. |
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2006-03-06, 01:47 |
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Originally posted by Lacedwithdelight:
Thats pretty messed up.
You guys need to go do some revolutionary shit
yeah man i'd join some revolution. Well like me saying that on totse probably isn't the best thing in the world LOL honestly though. It'd be cool like in a hollywood way ya know? but i know i'd have an entirely different way of thinking if someone ever organized it. I doubt I'd actually join some revolution unless my life was immediately in danger. I like my country so far... lol now i'm all paranoid about the government watching me on here and thinking i might be a threat... this is not good when like i get nervous about what i say on an internet forum. wow. |
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2006-03-06, 01:48 |
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This sounds like a PARANOID DELUSION to me.
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#51
2006-03-06, 01:50 |
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2006-03-06, 01:55 |
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Originally posted by SilentOp47:
God this is all bullshit. How in the fuck could the government keep everyone's mouth shut and why the hell would they kill 1500 innocent people. You idiots are fucking retarded. Even if it is all true no one will change a thing.
Has anyone from the government ever said anything bad about the government? Unluckily, the government doesn't work like enron did, it doesn't have a Sharon Watkins. Even if the government DID have someone like Sharon Watkins, they would just kill her before her word ever got out to the public. Also check your sentence "you idiots are fucking retarded"... Pretty redundant don't you think? Why not: you guys are fucking retarded? Or, you are all idiots? Next time you try to flame anyone who believes this,b don't flame yourself with use of redundant statements. |
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2006-03-06, 01:56 |
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I have believed that our gov was behind this for years
Unfortunetly our country is full of ignorant fucks such as my friend who said
"I voted for bush because i like to see our country kick peoples asses, such as in iraq and afganistan. This makes it clear to the world not to fuck with us"
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2006-03-06, 01:57 |
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this 9-11 conspiracy bullshit is GETTING REALLY FUCKING OLD! theres a new topic in a different forum. all these topics are supposed to be in paranoid delusions.
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2006-03-06, 02:18 |
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Thanx Heat for having the guts to post this, which is the best documentary I'v seen on this extremely troubling subject.
First, to the cowards posting here, siding with the United States Government, and George Bush specifically.
You are either Feds or cowards.
WHEN it all comes down, very soon, your kind will be executed first, because NOONE wants a yellow belly in a fox hole with them, not even 'the Feds'.
In fact, the Feds 'laff' their arses off at people who defend them, because they wonder how anyone can be so foolish.
WHEN it all 'goes down', the Feds will have their plane ticket out of America, they won't stay here and fight, just like they never fight for a good cause.
My favorite part of this documentry was at the end when the narrator tells us that we should do 'ANYTHING'-- in order to prevent this from happening again, and bring true justice to these crimes.
I heard another interesting reply the other nite on radio, where someone said that you should be affraid to pursue justice in the world (ie. like with the 911 investigations), because you 'might go to jail'.
And someone responded, so refreshingly: "There are worse things than going to jail!!".
I'll admit that if anyone actually tried to pursue this (legaly or otherwise) the government would issue orders preventing it from progressing very far.
However the constant attempts at investigating, speaking out vehemently, and most importantly: 'disrepecting' these United States Government Official Cowards', along with anyone who supports them, does more to create a bad omen, that these monsters see coming.
[This message has been edited by Halvy101 (edited 03-06-2006).]
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2006-03-06, 02:27 |
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Wonderful video, this is serious evidence. The government will never be looked at by me the same again
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2006-03-06, 02:36 |
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I have trouble believe the video sorry. There really is no motive, besides going to war, but I don't think you need to kill 1500 people to justify that. Im not a fan of conspiracy theories and that is probably why I disagree with the video. That is just my opinion, it could be wrong or right. I will not believe goverment involvement until a highly respect goverment official leaks the information. I know politicians and Feds in D.C are cheating lieing bastards, but they're not evil enough to be behind this. Plus Bush isn't smart enough to start a 9-11 conspiracy. If the gov't was behind it, I am willing to bet he had no idea. Michael Moore is a truth bender. There are so many holes in his movie to drive a M1-Abram Tank throught it.
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2006-03-06, 02:38 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
Moving to Paranoid Delusions.
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2006-03-06, 02:39 |
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Originally posted by Exploration of Space:
If you watch Farenhype 9/11 you will learn why Michael Moore isn't dead and his movie went out in theaters. The guy that made this movie probably is dead or lives outside of the U.S. it's not bullshit dude.
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2006-03-06, 02:54 |
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Originally posted by SilentOp47:
God this is all bullshit. How in the fuck could the government keep everyone's mouth shut and why the hell would they kill 1500 innocent people. You idiots are fucking retarded. Even if it is all true no one will change a thing.
It is that very attitude that lets them get away with this, If more people stood up and fought for true freedom the world wouldnt be as much of a hell hole |
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2006-03-06, 02:59 |
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Ok, I have add, so I couldnt watch the 80 minute video. So, if this was covered in the video, tell me and ill watch it.
But I did watch the flash video. Going with that theory, the government being behind the attack on the pentagon, were they also behind the attack on the World Trade Center?
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2006-03-06, 03:58 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html
Done.
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2006-03-06, 04:23 |
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Long video, i just watched the last 20 mins. Very good video though, and I belive it all.. quote:
Ask questions, demand answers...
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2006-03-06, 05:02 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
Just watched the entire video. Leaving for the Army in a few months. I regret watching, but I'm comforted in the fact that I can brainwash myself into believing it's just Michael Moore bullshit. In fact, It's already done. What a load. Grow up you fucking hippies.
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2006-03-06, 06:23 |
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even supposing everything in that movie is a lie except for the live news coverage, it still raises some interesting questions that need to be answered.
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2006-03-06, 07:39 |
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Originally posted by Muramune:
Just watched the entire video. Leaving for the Army in a few months. I regret watching, but I'm comforted in the fact that I can brainwash myself into believing it's just Michael Moore bullshit. In fact, It's already done. What a load. Grow up you fucking hippies.
Yea and take Social Junker with you, this way the $ we tax payers lay out for your body-bags, will be all thats needed to bring justice to cowards like you. :) |
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2006-03-06, 14:52 |
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Welcome to earth where the government tells you nothing and knows everything.
I think my spaceship was safer. |
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2006-03-06, 15:03 |
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Originally posted by Lacedwithdelight:
Thats pretty messed up.
You guys need to go do some revolutionary shit
We do? Why don't you do your part too? |
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2006-03-06, 22:00 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Yea and take Social Junker with you, this way the $ we tax payers lay out for your body-bags, will be all thats needed to bring justice to cowards like you. 
And that's where you've stepped over the fucking line. Who the fuck do you think you are? How can you call men cowards who live, die, fight, and struggle for your right to say the stupid, baseless, mindless shit you say? Even if the government was lying about any of it, what gives you the right to judge the men fighting? What the fuck do you know about them? Cowards? You're here, they're there. You're sitting behind a computer with all this shit. What the fuck have you done for what you believe in? What the fuck do you really know from what you've been told? If any of it was bullshit, what the fuck have you done about it? I'm guessing just as much as the rest of these people have. Whine and be pissed about it. Raise the fuck up. |
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2006-03-06, 23:43 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
A QUESTION FOR THOSE FAMILIAR WITH LAW:
Is it legally possible to file a lawsuit against the government? How far it will go is a different question. I think we are in need of a clear lawsuit against the government so it finally hits the news, otherwise 9/11 will never come up on public TV. Once it's on TV, at least people will start to realize what really happened on September 11th.
ANSWER ME, PLEASE!
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Originally posted by AxiD:
A QUESTION FOR THOSE FAMILIAR WITH LAW:
Is it legally possible to file a lawsuit against the government? How far it will go is a different question. I think we are in need of a clear lawsuit against the government so it finally hits the news, otherwise 9/11 will never come up on public TV. Once it's on TV, at least people will start to realize what really happened on September 11th.
ANSWER ME, PLEASE!
The Government of the United States was devised and written by lawyers and rich people. Hence it 'sounds' lovely, but has absolutley no bite, for the common man. All three branches of it are like a three way tv wrestling match-- and we all know how 'real' those wrestling matches are. You will never have once branch 'arrest' or destroy one of the others, because they all protect one another. They know that by telling us to: 'use the system'-- by writing letters to your representatives, or 'voting', is something that is inefective, but sounds nice. Even if the people of the United States were to 'enact' legislation to 'over throw' every scumbag that is part of the crimes that the Government has commited since its inception, the Government would consider it an 'illegal' action by us, and attempt to label us as terrorists. These people understand only one thing.. And that one thing, (fierce violence) is the ONLY thing that will stop them from their continual criminal activites against the good people the earth. [This message has been edited by Halvy101 (edited 03-07-2006).] |
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2006-03-07, 06:55 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
it won't be too long before this all comes to a head. abortion has just been criminallised, and it is only a matter of time before people start being arrested for thought crimes.
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2006-03-07, 07:23 |
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..How can you call men cowards who live, die, fight, and struggle for your right to say the stupid, baseless, mindless shit you say? ..
People use their freedom of speech, INSPITE of people 'like you'.. not because of. [This message has been edited by Halvy101 (edited 03-07-2006).] |
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2006-03-07, 11:12 |
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Originally posted by Tommy Chong:I'm sure glad we have so many Ramboish Einsteins here to declare the truth, all while believing there saving the world by disclosing the fruits of there enlightenment. All you individuals posting on both sides of the issue are hilariously pathetic (especially the MODS) post on you 14 year old piss ants. 
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2006-03-07, 12:12 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Originally posted by Tommy Chong:
I'm sure glad we have so many Ramboish Einsteins here to declare the truth, all while believing there saving the world by disclosing the fruits of there enlightenment. All you individuals posting on both sides of the issue are hilariously pathetic (especially the MODS) post on you 14 year old piss ants.
I'd learn how to count before I'd call someone else 14 years old. Who are the modS? I'm the only mod to post in this thread, so if you have anything intelligible to say to me, then spit it out. [This message has been edited by Halvy101 (edited 03-07-2006).] |
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2006-03-07, 15:44 |
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So if this is all true. What is the motive to all this shit? Thats the only thing that doesn't make any sense to me. I'm sure the gov. is capable of pulling it off, but what for?
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2006-03-07, 21:44 |
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Originally posted by Halvy101:
People use their freedom of speech, INSPITE of people 'like you'.. not because of.
If it weren't for people like me, you wouldn't have free speech in the first damn place.Speaking against the government would get you shot dead in the street. You take what you have for granted. |
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2006-03-07, 22:15 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Yea and take Social Junker with you, this way the $ we tax payers lay out for your body-bags, will be all thats needed to bring justice to cowards like you.
cow�ard - One who shows ignoble fear in the face of danger or pain. from dictionary.com Despite your ideas of soldiers' being cowards, I still lack the ability to see any reason why this could be true. The soldiers that are fighting for the United States are not cowards by the above definition, they are the total opposite, continuing to fight while risking their own life for the sake of their beliefs. Though their beliefs may conflict with yours, the definition of the word coward cannot be applied to them for the sake of your satisfaction. As I believe Muramune is saying, the reason that this movie, this forum, this website as a whole is allowed to be here, is because of the military and the fact that the general population can be and might be inclined to use arms against an overbearing dictator, ex. one who would prohibit the freedom of speech many of us Americans have come to take for granted. This country, the United States, was founded by people who bore arms against tyrannical leaders, brilliant men who valued what they had lost when Great Britain forbade the freedom of expression that you obviously have come to accept as nothing but words on old piece of paper in a glass case in some museum. |
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2006-03-07, 22:47 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Originally posted by Tommy Chong:I'm sure glad we have so many Ramboish Einsteins here to declare the truth, all while believing there saving the world by disclosing the fruits of there enlightenment. All you individuals posting on both sides of the issue are hilariously pathetic (especially the MODS) post on you 14 year old piss ants.
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2006-03-08, 02:02 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Originally posted by Silence_Is_Deafening:
cow�ard - One who shows ignoble fear in the face of danger or pain.
from dictionary.com
Despite your ideas of soldiers' being cowards, I still lack the ability to see any reason why this could be true. The soldiers that are fighting for the United States are not cowards by the above definition, they are the total opposite, continuing to fight while risking their own life for the sake of their beliefs. Though their beliefs may conflict with yours, the definition of the word coward cannot be applied to them for the sake of your satisfaction.
As I believe Muramune is saying, the reason that this movie, this forum, this website as a whole is allowed to be here, is because of the military and the fact that the general population can be and might be inclined to use arms against an overbearing dictator, ex. one who would prohibit the freedom of speech many of us Americans have come to take for granted. This country, the United States, was founded by people who bore arms against tyrannical leaders, brilliant men who valued what they had lost when Great Britain forbade the freedom of expression that you obviously have come to accept as nothing but words on old piece of paper in a glass case in some museum.
I don't try to change my opponents, and surely they know they'll never change me. Because people don't change their beliefs, even over the course of their lifetime. People don't 'get more conservative' or 'patriotic' as they get older-- they just become what they were, before they became grown ups. My opponents (The United States Government, & their supporters) only understand death... That is their choice. I can only hope that the little I speak will help encourage others to do the same, and take the action necessary, against this nearly defunct, murderous Government (and its supporters), called The United States Of America. Not that this will be as hard or big of a deal, as Commies like you would like us to believe.. Hopefully I will live (or die) to see this. I personally can't loose. I speak my mind, whether it is here, there, or anywhere. I 'relish' in speaking vehemently against the 'Party Line' talk about 'how America is SOOO GREAT!!'. And watch people like you, lie in vain about how I'm going to get arrested, (or should be).. bla, bla, bla. I have more experience with this illegal and immoral Government, than you (probably) know. You act like your 'enlightening' us with your 'run of the mill', putrid boasting about this cespol called America. When all your are doing is repeating the same-ol-same-ol trivial, standard lies that people hear day after day on the tv, radio, newspapers,.. But less & less, in public. Even if the Government was to 'GET ME', it would only prove they are afraid that people like me, are making inroads into 'organizing' the citizens, to come after them, and execute them in the middle of their murderous ways. I would be more free in jail, than you, for speaking what literally everyone else 'thinks',.. While I 'EXCITINGLY'-- wait for that 'GREAT CHANGE' that sooo many people are planing and hoping for!! The destruction of 'The United States Of America'!!! :) LOL! But YOU and YOUR KIND are, with your zombie like replys about 'America' and how great it is.. Will be on the outside of that jail, waiting and running from the 'white hot rath' that has been building for nearly 200 years. But I-- will be looking forward to even more glorious freedoms.. After leaving my VERY temporary cell.. To douse the flames of your scorched DNA embers.. :) [This message has been edited by Halvy101 (edited 03-08-2006).] |
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2006-03-08, 02:57 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
This is a perfect example of fear based mind manipulation, to be afraid of what you can't see and can't understand. Of course there was government curruption that enabled a strike like 911 to happen, but how does that really change the fact that we're sitting here completly safe and free to say whatever we want? Don't get get caught up in someone elses bullshit, no matter who's side your on, once you pick sides, you've chosen to play a roll in man's petty games, which all distract from the truth that we're all in this together , to survive and thrive, or fall and die.
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2006-03-08, 03:21 |
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Halvy, you are introducing ideas that I had originally had no comment on, and I still fail to see what their real connection is to the original idea. I had no intention of making the proposition that you attempt to change your opponents' beliefs, I was merely stating the fact that soldiers are not cowards.
The point I am again restating is the fact that you will not ever be "gotten to." At the moment and for the forseeable future, there will never be a reason nor a possibility that you will be made a criminal of the nation, solely because it is the nation that provides the foundation for you to allow you to express yourself. The ideas that you want to act out upon may be criminal if they ever reach fruition, but only upon their commencement.
You can in fact "loose" in this scenario:
You claim to want the destruction of this government. Tell me this, what will be put in its place? You call me a Communist, yet I am all for the democratic republic as our nation is today. I do not know of any form of government so successful in producing a nation as strong as ours was and still is today. When 'your time' has come, when you will be more free than I supposedly, you will be left with absolutely nothing as it is only the unity, economically, socially, and politically, that our government provides the people with that allows this part of the globe to be as successful as it has become.
The fact of the matter is, whatever you claim replaces our government will never eclipse it. The instability and volatile nature of a society after its government is overthrown is a surefire suicide; the prospect of generating a productive nation out of the ashes is virtually nil.
Next time save my brain from useless racking, spell correctly and write coherent thoughts.
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2006-03-08, 04:55 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
^^^ that's what they tell you, "everything will go to hell if there is no government" "without the government you'll all be doomed"
the fact that you had to "rack your brains" shows that you havn't come up with anything original, you don't really have a reason to believe what you are saying, and you are merely trying to remember what you have been told and conditioned to say is right. well fuck you
why do we have to listen to the "baaaing" of mindless sheep?
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2006-03-08, 06:44 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
link to all 9/11 videos available on the internet. theres a bunch of em, enjoy
http://bizzaromurphy.googlepages.com/911
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2006-03-08, 22:28 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Originally posted by TerminatorVinitiatoR:
^^^ that's what they tell you, "everything will go to hell if there is no government" "without the government you'll all be doomed"
the fact that you had to "rack your brains" shows that you havn't come up with anything original, you don't really have a reason to believe what you are saying, and you are merely trying to remember what you have been told and conditioned to say is right. well fuck you
why do we have to listen to the "baaaing" of mindless sheep?
First off, name one society that has left a permanent mark in history or created a successful cultured population without having any form of government. Don't even waste your time, the answer cannot be found.Without some form of government, a society would have no guidance, no laws, and no peace, as it is in human nature for people to bicker and disagree with those around them at one point or another. Such minor disputes would eventually lead to greater disruptions in normal life, and eventually deaths would amount. Secondly, if you would read my post correctly, I was racking my brains as a result of his incoherent babbling and lack of organized structure in his argument, not due to the fact as you falsely assume, that there is actually some dogma or set of beliefs that are forced into me, which I am striving to remember. Believe me, my memory and capacity for thought far exceeds yours.In order for something to be believed by someone, it does not have to be original, ex. most religions, as they have been passed down over generations. Despite your claims, I have every reason in the world to proclaim that government in general is good. I am able draw my own conclusions from that which has been put before me, the ability which you clearly lack. You seem to blur the distinction between our government and government in general which is a major flaw in your line of thought. At times I may support the actions which our government takes and other times I may not, but I fail to see the logic behind your reasoning as to why government as a whole is a horrible thing. Well, finally, fuck you.[This message has been edited by Silence_Is_Deafening (edited 03-08-2006).] |
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2006-03-08, 23:17 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
The reason for all of this: Global hydrocarbon depletion.
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Originally posted by Whirlwind:
We do? Why don't you do your part too?
Hmmm... maybe he's referring to "you guys", meaning the country, and he doesn't fucking live here in the US, dumb fucking American.... |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Originally posted by ZRO:
So if this is all true. What is the motive to all this shit? Thats the only thing that doesn't make any sense to me. I'm sure the gov. is capable of pulling it off, but what for?
The US is running out of oil. they needed a scapegoat for the Iraq war. Without oil, the US economy will collapse. |
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2006-03-20, 08:46 |
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Re: PROOF: Govt. Behind 9/11 (Video)
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Originally posted by TerminatorVinitiatoR:
it won't be too long before this all comes to a head. abortion has just been criminallised, and it is only a matter of time before people start being arrested for thought crimes.
I am with you bro. I'm getting out of this country very soon, and I suggest you do the same. Bush has fucked this country beyond repair. We are hated my 95% of the world and practically on the brink of splitting this country in two. |
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