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| Weapons and Combat This is the forum dedicated to weapons, martial arts, and their related technical, political and social issues. Weapons and Combat is for the safe and responsible use of firearms, knives, fists and other weapons. This forum is about real weapons - Threads about paintball, airsoft, and other sport related combat may posted in Go Team. |
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#1
 2002-12-10, 21:19
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Rangoon 
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steyr TMP
http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg11-e.htm Does anyone know who uses this gun if so who? It seems like everyone uses uzis or mp5s.
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#2
 2002-12-14, 01:22
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Re: steyr TMP
Quite a few actually. Uzi? Who do you know that still uses Uzis, with the possible exception of the IDF and nit-wit gangsters in pimped-out ghetto-sleds?
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#3
 2002-12-14, 02:43
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Re: steyr TMP
Who specificily uses the steyer TMP?
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#4
 2002-12-14, 15:46
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syphon detonator 
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Re: steyr TMP
i dont know what countries use it but the idea is that soldiers that wont ever come in contact with the front line would be issued TMP's because they dont need a full size assult rifle and a pistol isnt enough if they need to fight. and what it says is true, they are supposed to be very controllable because of the angled fron grip. the shooter uses a push pull stance with the grips to controll muzzle flip in full auto.
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#5
 2002-12-14, 15:49
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syphon detonator 
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Re: steyr TMP
btw its not in the same class as an uzi or mp5. uzi's and mp5's are primary weapons for special operations and CQB, the tmp was always meant to be a back up weapon.
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#6
 2002-12-14, 16:12
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syphon detonator 
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Re: steyr TMP
The HK MP-7 Personal Defence Weapon (PDW) is a member of a brand new class of small arms, called Personal Defence Weapons. The PDWs are intended, as name implies, to be a defensive sidearms for second-line troops, vehicle crews and other military personnel who normally not issued with assault rifles. Previously, these troops were issued with pistols or submachine guns, but proliferation of body armour in recent years made those guns ineffective. The first firearm, intended as PDW and offered in that class was belgian-made P-90 by FN, and it "had special low-impulse, high-velocity ammunition, capable of penetration of current military body armours and helmets at ranges of 100 meters and beyond, while being much smaller and lighter, than assult rifle. The MP-7, originally known simply as H&K PDW, is another entry in the PDW class, and direct competitor to P-90." http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg49-e.htm
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#7
 2002-12-14, 16:42
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Re: steyr TMP
If I'm not mistaken, the Austrian army, such as it is, issues TMPs to its tank crews.
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#8
 2002-12-14, 21:20
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Rangoon 
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Re: steyr TMP
quote: Originally posted by syphon detonator: btw its not in the same class as an uzi or mp5. uzi's and mp5's are primary weapons for special operations and CQB, the tmp was always meant to be a back up weapon.
I suppose tmps dont have any stock so they wouldnt really be used in a cqb invironment. When I said mp5 I should of said mp5k the shorter compact version. The TMP sounds like a sweet little gun but Iv never heard of any army using it (except austria after reading this).
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