lets put down our ideas on weapons, arnachy
and other scams...

i will start the ball rolling...

1)BB zipgun:
basically a party popper which shoots BB,
uses a straw reinforced with tapes as barrel,
party popper as propellant..
effective within 7 to 8 metres
accurate in 5 to 7 metres

2)ruberband gun/dartgun:
a rubberbandgun which is made of mainly small
wooden rod and planks, an arrow made of
bamboo 7 inch long by 3 mm wide is launched
when hanged to the rubberband...
effective within 100 metres
accurate in 20 to 30 metre

3)blowgun:
straw as a blowgun, pins with tissue paper/
sponge attached to it's ball is used
as a dart...
effective and accurate within 5 metres

4)lighter grenade:
a disposable lighter with sparkler coiled
around it. some sparkler is left uncoiled
as fuse...

err........

do you reckon this would work ?

take the nibs off cheap pens. thats like your bullet. then use those starting caps, and cut them up so they can be piled underneath the pen nib. then house that in a small plastic container. thats a bullet

put it in a straw, and hit the end (rubber band and stick can do it) so the starter caps go off. then the pen nib flies out. probably wouldnt do much except make a bang. but.......

i want to know how to make a pen bomb where u click the pen then throw it then it explodes after a short delay. I came up with an idea using the battery bomb pressure bomb but when i actually did it i found out it wasn't exactly powerful enough. Anyone actually got a idea that will work?

Oni you have to realize that not everything in a James Bond movie is real. You would realize that when you saw the invisible car. *Shakes head* "Shaken not stirred my ass, fuck you Hollywood!"

you mean launching a pen's nip cover as a
bullet ?
why not sharpen the stick and launch the
stick itself ?

����All of the suggestions so far are so ameteur that they're laughable. I'll let you have your fun, though.
����If you used some electronics you could make a pen that explodes after a delay when you click it. I'm sure you can find a 555 IC chip that's small enough to fit in a pen of moderate size. All you need to do then is put some flash powder in a metal canister with a rocket igniter attached. You could power it with a couple of hearing aid batteries. If you need the most power you can get your hands on you could use acetone peroxide as the filler, but AP is sensitive and that could lead to trouble.
����As for all of your rubber band guns, spitball launchers, and toy capguns - Don't even try to pass those off as effective weapons. They're playthings for children, nothing more.

~Zero

rubberband gun = children plaything ?
LOL, wait until you get shot by a arrow
launched from the gun, you will know what i
mean...

the arrow is capable of piercing 2 pieces of
mounting board at 10 metre(it is wooden head)
you can soak it with venom/ poison and shoot
the victim...

imagine a small dose of venom from a black
widow delivered into your arm when you
walk down the street...
(you can die from that cos u dun know the
type of poison)

imagine a pin flying straight into your eye
when you are walking in the park...

imagine a BB flying at speed of over 100m/s
(it smashed through 2 coke can at 5 metre
range, a precisely aimed shot can hit target
with 1 inch error at range of 7 metres)
it is as slim as a pen, and can be produced
by even a 3 year old kid...

".....imagine a small dose of venom from a black widow delivered into your arm when you walk down the street...
(you can die from that cos u dun know the
type of poison)....."


So how do you intend to milk the venom from this dreaded little beastie? Do you even know where the venom sac is... or how much venom you can expect to extract from a single spider? The amount of venom injected by a BW is theoretically enough to kill a child or sickly old person, but it'll only make a healthy adult sick. How do I know this? 'Cause I've been bitten by one 'cuz'.

Don't worry Zero, it's the title of the proposed book that naturally causes it to become a joke....

Rather than make a rubber band gun, how about a real pistol crossbow (loads of real fun BTW)....

Rather than a soda straw blowgun, how about making a 'real' blowgun (yes they can be deadly with a moderate amount of practice and the proper poison)

Rather than make a BB zipgun (spare me another 'ballistics' report, I can't handle the laughter), make a real one....

Lighter grenade (pfhhhhht!!).... just graduate to a proper one....

Pen bombs? C'mon get imaginative.... Zero was on the right track (though I've never seen a 555 quite small enough for the task, unless it's one of those big ass 'executive' pens).

What you've proposed is another Kewl (I can't believe I actually wrote that word) Cookbook......

Oh well.

where the hell is this kid buying party popper's that can launch a bb through 2 coke cans?

"imagine a pin flying straight into your eye"
oh no, a fate worse than death. a pin! in the eye!. how the hell are you going to hit someone in the eye anyway, assuming that they don't want to be hit?

to the point. would a pen full of flash powder actaully do anything other than go pop? i know little about explosives, but it seems that 4 square centimeters of it is too little to do anything.

quote:

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Originally posted by Zero the Inestimable:
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����As for all of your rubber band guns, spitball launchers, and toy capguns - Don't even try to pass those off as effective weapons. They're playthings for children, nothing more.

EDIT: Yes, they can be quite childlike, unless you have one of the right magnitude.

~Zero

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Ahh, but you're quite wrong, my friend! I've seen rubber band launchers that can shoot rubber bands as fast as you can crank a device! And I also made a pencil gun that works off C02 canisters. It wasn't that effective though, because the pencil was too heavy in the back. I tried to counter with clay, but it would't fit in the barrol...



[This message has been edited by JakeTakeoko (edited 12-09-2002).]

I Have My Machete, If I Want To Ill Just Cover It With Shit And Maim A Room Full Of Sepcial education Children.

- Drax

oh, you guys were actually thinking about killing people ?

i was just thinking made up weapons and stuff. not even effective, just something you could try construct

let me be a little creative...........ill post anything i can think of ! but dont hold your breath



[This message has been edited by SKD (edited 12-10-2002).]

ya, the weapons are too illegal to be used
against persons...
u will be sure to be sued for that...

but in extreme situstion, like warding off
attacker, u might have some gadgets
(i wont say that they are really weapons)
to ward off attacker...

or even just to entertain yourself...

the pen bomb thing i dunt really agree,
the explosives might not be even enough
to launch a marble into the air...
take a few cans and try to pick them off
with your "gun"

the BB zipgun is the best so far, it is the
most functional and effective...
the accuracy of the band gun is quite
unstable...

and u only need a oridinary party popper...
+ a straw and a BB and some tape to finish
the zipgun...
a 6 inch straw can put a BB through 2 coke
cans...
you can try that when u are free...

Note: the BB zipgun is still under testing
and development...
the rubberband gun proved to be more
entertaining than lethal....
the blowgun is out of my use....