ok i have read alot on this topic i have done a search in thie forum on the topic and only yeilding 3 results one was an idea use a potato and one was using a 2L bottle both of which i really rather aviod i would like to make a supressors mentioned in the book Hit Man

here is the way they make it the only problem is i have search every were and can not find more info on the subject or the pictures to go with this file


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DISPOSABLE SILENCER DIRECTIONS

The directions and photographs that follow show in explicit detail how to construct a silencer for a Ruger 10/22 rifle. The same directions can be followed successfully to construct a silencer for any weapon, with only the size of the drill rod used for alignment changed to fit inside the dimension of the barrel.

The following items should be assembled before you begin:

Drill rod, 7/32 inch (order from a machine shop if not obtained locally)
One foot of 1/4 inch brake line from auto parts
One quart of fiberglass resin with hardener
One foot of 1-1/2 inch (inside diameter) PVC piping and two end caps
One yard thin fiberglass mat
One roll of masking tape
One 1/8 inch drill bit
One 3/16 inch drill bit
Handful of rubber bands
Three or four single inch razor blades
One sheet 80 grit sandpaper
Six small wood screws
One box steel wool

Cut a 10-inch section from the brake line. See figure 1. Drill a set of 1/8 inch holes down the length of the tube going in one side and out the other. The holes go all the way through. Notice in the photograph that the holes begin 1-1/2 inches from the end of the tube that fill on the gun.

Next, take a 3/16 inch drill bit and enlarge the holes. See figure 2.

Using masking tape and keeping the tape as free of wrinkles as possible, mask off about six inches of the gun barrel and the end of the barrel. Use only masking tape. Duct tape is too thick and would make for an improper fit. See figure 3.

Then place the drill rod down the barrel to keep the brake tube aligned. This perfect alignment is extremely important.

If the drill rod you purchase is a little too large, as sometimes happens, put it in a drill and using a file and sandpaper (80 grit), turn down the first six inches until it will fit inside the gun barrel. I operate the drill from the floor with my foot, letting the rod spin between my knees as I reduce the size. Check regularly until you achieve a perfect fit. If you grind the rod too small, cut it off and start over. Fit must be tight with no play. See figure 4.

Wrap glass mat around the gun and tube three times. Secure it with string or rubber bands every half inch to keep it tight and in place. The glass should be wrapped about two inches behind the sight and up to the first hole on the tube. See figure 5.

Now mix the resin. About a shot glassful will do. Mix it two or three times hotter than the package directions.

Brace the gun in an upright position and dab the resin into the glass cloth with a stubby brush. Keep dabbling until the cloth is no longer white but has become transparent from absorption of the resin. See figure 6.

As soon as the glass is tacky to touch without sticking (times differs according to weather conditions and humidity), it is time to remove the piece from the barrel. Move fast!

First, take a razor blade and cut a notch behind the sight so the piece can be removed. Then push on the glass to slide it off. Do not pull on the tube. See figure 7.

After removing the gun barrel, peel out the tape and allow it to finish hardening. You must work quickly. If you let the glass harden too much on the gun, you will have to cut it off and begin again.

Use a grinder and 80 grit sandpaper to smooth the hardening rough surface.

Next, grind the sides down about halfway, but do not grind past the point where the front of the sight makes contact. See figure 8. Cut it down until the barrel fits easily and snugly.

Stand the glassed inner tube upright in a vise.

Mix a small amount of resin and use an eyedropper to fill in any interior holes or air bubbles until the solid fiberglass is level with the steel tube end. This will give the junction of the steel inner tube and glass coupling added strength. See figure 9.

Clean the eyedropper with acetone.

Cut the PVC tube to desired length. This one is eight inches. See figure 10.

Drill a large hole in the center of one cap, making it large enough to fit on the glass end to the point where the sight makes contact.

Then drill small holes all around the cap at the bottom, as shown, with a 3/16 bit. See figure 11.

Wrap masking tape around the cap to cover the holes. See figure 12.

Stand the cap with the inside tube inserted into a vise. Get the cap level and straight with the tube.

Cut a lot of 1/2 inch square pieces of fiberglass matting and fill the cap with it up past the level of the small holes.

Mix resin and pour it over the cut glass to a point about 1/4 inch above the holes and allow it to dry before removing the cap from the vise. Don't worry about any resin that leaks out around the base hole. Resin fills the small holes, making the tube strong enough to take the blast when you fire the gun.

When the inside is hardened, turn the assembly over and add glass around the backside of the cap for added strength as shown. Avoid getting resin in the opening where the barrel fits. See figure 13.

Place the finished cap and inner tube on one end of the PVC tubing that has already been cut to size. Center the inner tube as you look in the open end of the PVC.

Now drill a 1/8 inch hole in three place around the tube about 1/4 inch from the lip of the cap.

Take the inner tube out and enlarge the holes in the cap to 3/16 inch. See figure 14.

Replace the inner tube and tighten it down with three small wood screws.

Trim the inside tube down until it extends about 1/2 inch beyond the outside PVC tube.

Sharpen one end of the drill rod to a point and use as a punch. Stand the tube up with the solid cap down. Then drop the drill rod down the inner tube to get a true center mark. See figure 15.

Find a drill bit a little larger than the outside diameter of the inner tube. Remove the cap and drill the hole.

Replace the cap on the open end of the PVC and drill three 1/8 inch holes around the cap as before for wood screw.

Grind off any inner tube that sticks out. make it flush with the face of the cap. See figure 16.

Unfold the sections of steel wool and roll between palms to make strands as shown.

Feed the strands into the silencer tube in a circular motion, packing the wool tight with a stick. Do this until the tube is completely full. See figure 17.

Replace the end cap with the three screws. See figure 18.

Paint the finished silencer black and attach it to your weapons. You may want to ensure proper alignment by wrapping tape or placing a hose clamp around the extension behind the sight. See figure 19.
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Now i do not completly under stand this method although i do understand the concept i am wondring first when there talking about using the glass and making the extention i get that but how do they align the brake tube in the exact center ove the two PVC caps also does the whole silencer fit on the barrel or just the extention ? also if the brake tube is not completly aligned won't the passing bullet crush the tube ?

im trying to figure out a simple version of this method one with pictures if some one could find the pictures or is smart enough to build one them selfs and take pictures of the process and a test fire please do

thanks in advance
-warweed12

youre pretty much asking most people here to put their name on the line by doing something illegal. you do know that to make a silencer, legally, you need to have a class 3 (or 2 ?) permit ?

i mentioned this in another post. i couldnt find out the part where they remove the glued fibreglass from the drillpiece. and i think the writer means fibreglass cloth, when he says 'glass'

yes im quite aware that he is talking about the cloth and i do not actually plan on building one i am just trying under stand this more i like to know what im reading

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i have done a search in thie forum on the topic and only yeilding 3 results one was an idea use a potato and one was using a 2L bottle both

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Are you asking us for plans on the potatoe supressor?

Quickly abadon that idea.

I browsed through the directions in your post, you don't want any obstructions you have to "shoot thru" in the supressor.

I posted a good link to a webpage where it shows various photos and diagrams, one supressor that has been field stripped where you can visably see the baffles and all.

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youre pretty much asking most people here to put their name on the line by doing something illegal

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No, I can tell you how to make one all day long till I turn blue and have not violated the law. If you take this information and construct a supressor then you've broken federal and posssibly additionally state law.
http://www.mark23.com/NGNBTD/silencers.html

Mr. Warweed, after reading the directions, I don't see where that method is more expedient than finding someone who owns a Smithy or a Lathe/Mill and booking a few hours on it.

After you would go through all of that, chances are the device would only be good for one shot (possibly two, but you would be pushing it). The alignment on the barrel isn't something that can be "extremely close," it has to be dead nuts on the money or you will never hit anything past 20 feet. I guess if you are looking for something that just proves the concept it would work, but that is an awful lot of work for a throw-away.

A well made silencer of good steel will last more than a lifetime, as long as you made it so that you could repack it from time to time with fiberglas or steel wool, because that is the only part that will wear out over time. And if you know or learn anything about machining, you could make one just as fast on a lathe/mill as you could with the method you mentioned.

Other than that, replace the masking tape with aluminum foil, same thickness for a tight fit, but one hell of a lot easier to get off after you have applied resin to the fiberglas.

You could also search the US Patents and Trademarks Office online..... They've only got a couple hundred patents (slight exageration) to sift through. Use a .tiff viewer to see the pics.

ok thanks for the info


also i would not want to use any suppressors you have to shoot through somthing

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Originally posted by I Love Poop:
No, I can tell you how to make one all day long till I turn blue and have not violated the law. If you take this information and construct a supressor then you've broken federal and posssibly additionally state law.
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Nope it is illegal, ask zero i thought that at first also, also it could be called conspiricy.

CTR

Just telling the person how to do it isn't enough. You would have to be physically involved in the actual construction, not just a source of information. Telling someone how to make it with intentions of buying it from the person would probably be considered conspiracy too.

I'm not a lawyer, but that's my understanding of how stuff works. If you could get prosecuted for answering a question over the internet, alot of people would be fucked.

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conspiricy

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Conspiricy to commit the manufactering of a unlicensed NFA firearm would be given the following was true,

Discussion of instructions to build said item took place,

and a overt act, such as...

my involvement in procuring materials or supplies, i.e, purchasing and or providing the actual materials nessacary for manufactering.

Possession of the blueprint or "how to" is not a crime, until you take it to the next level.

Then again on the safe side, i'll just address these questions with "hypotheticals".

I do not condone the actions of any individual who manufacters and or posesses a unlicensed NFA firearm.

I do condone keeping a clean record, in which case generally you can lawfully purchase and possess such a item. Given the state you reside in does not prohibit such items, you are twentyone years or older, have a clean criminal history and money to burn!

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Originally posted by I Love Poop:
No, I can tell you how to make one all day long till I turn blue and have not violated the law. If you take this information and construct a supressor then you've broken federal and posssibly additionally state law.
http://www.mark23.com/NGNBTD/silencers.html

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you misunderstood me. the last statement i said was talking about the construction of silencers. information is freedom. we all have the right to read anything we want. but i was actually referring to where he said to make it and try it out on the range.

lol testing your unlicensed NFA firearm at a public range probabaly wouldn't be such a good idea.

What about the case with the dude and paladian press the making of the book hit man because of a murder commited with it they had to recall it all


even though it violates the constitution

Yeah, most of all i think paladin press lost a civil suit against the victim's family. A really big "fuck you" in the face of freedom of speach. I believe court tv made a movie about this case.

Reminds me of that book/movie Fahrenheit 457 about a society in which all books are burned and are deemed illegal.

I've got plenty of books on building silencers/supressors and nothing but them. All they have is a little half-paragraph warning about federal law. Nothing special. If you can get them, try "Workbench Silencers(1 and 2)" and "How to Make Disposable Silencers". I got mine from www.butokukai.com

Off subject: I also got some books on converting semi-auto weapons to full auto and how to convert stock rifles to sniper rifles. What can I say, I'm a bookworm.

i think they chose to settle outside of court. one of the agreements was that they cease publication of the book, and destroy any copies they had in stock

sad day for freedom of speech

dont give 'hired gun' any links to the online versions. if you dont, i doubt he will have the brains to actually find it

dont worry i got many links to things like that