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Weapons and Combat This is the forum dedicated to weapons, martial arts, and their related technical, political and social issues. Weapons and Combat is for the safe and responsible use of firearms, knives, fists and other weapons. This forum is about real weapons - Threads about paintball, airsoft, and other sport related combat may posted in Go Team.

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Old 2002-11-28, 05:56
Rangoon Rangoon is offline
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Default guns in the matrix

Im sure this has been said before in other forums but I saw the matrix last night and wondered what gun was pulled on neo in the car when they search him for bugs? thinking it is a browning high power
or a cz 75. Also how would they be able to fire blanks out of and m16 (like in the lobby scene) I thought there wouldnt be enough pressure to cycle the breech,and the bullet wouldnt seal the barrel so woundnt most of the gas go out the barrel instead of
thourgh the gas port?

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Old 2002-11-28, 13:16
gun-nut gun-nut is offline
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the guns also look like a custom colt 1911...

u dont really have a idea of how they fire
blanks from a M16, maybe sealing the muzzle
to get the gas...

the muzzleflash maybe added by computer...

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Old 2002-11-28, 14:01
rlpinca rlpinca is offline
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The military uses a thingy called a blank firing device. It's a red deal that clamps onto the end of the barrel and partially seals the barrel. That way, enough pressure remains to cycle the bolt. They make it red and easily visible so everyone knows that gun is firing blanks. For movies they might have something similar that fits into the barrel so it's not visible. Or, they might have a special gun that is designed to fire blanks only, so they don't have a bunch of ar-15s laying all over the place.
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Old 2002-11-28, 14:22
che4rev che4rev is offline
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Default Re: guns in the matrix

The gun the oh so hot blond chick pulls on him in the car is indeed a browning hi power.

The whole upper assembley is made for firing blanks.
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Old 2002-11-28, 20:37
Rangoon Rangoon is offline
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That blond haired chick wasnt hot were you high/drunk or both when you watched the movie?

Notice when neo fires those suppressed
russian smgs that look a bit like a skorpion ( http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg26-e.htm )
the shells on the floor look like 5.56mm NATO
rounds when the magazines of the guns is clearly too small for the shells. Also notice in the lobby scene when the swat team/security gaurds/army come in with m16s and spas12s they fire the spas12 in pump action mode usually used only when the round warrants it like firing blanks when a spas 12 has a semiauto mode.
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Old 2002-11-29, 03:11
I Love Poop I Love Poop is offline
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quote:
I thought there wouldnt be enough pressure to cycle the breech


What rlpnica said. In addition they probabaly use a reduced power recoil spring to make up for the lower pressure blank cartidges thus ensuring reliability.
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Old 2002-11-29, 03:49
syphon detonator syphon detonator is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by Rangoon:
That blond haired chick wasnt hot were you high/drunk or both when you watched the movie?

Notice when neo fires those suppressed
russian smgs that look a bit like a skorpion ( http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg26-e.htm )
the shells on the floor look like 5.56mm NATO
rounds when the magazines of the guns is clearly too small for the shells. Also notice in the lobby scene when the swat team/security gaurds/army come in with m16s and spas12s they fire the spas12 in pump action mode usually used only when the round warrants it like firing blanks when a spas 12 has a semiauto mode.



id bang her given the chance.

those arent scorps at all. if you look closly you can clearly see what they are. i cant recall the name off the top of my head but i will find out for you and give you a link to a pic.

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Old 2002-11-29, 03:59
syphon detonator syphon detonator is offline
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my fault, you were right now that i look closely. it is in fact a scorpion without the folding stock and what appears to be a cosmetic barrel extension or possibly a shitty flash suppresor. i took a snap shot from my copy of the dvd

http://www.geocities.com/combatairgunreviews/scorp.html
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Old 2002-11-29, 04:07
Rangoon Rangoon is offline
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:B: id bang her given the chance. :B:
Youd bang anyone if thats your standard Carrie Anne Moss was way hotter anyway, mmmm
pvc
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Old 2002-11-29, 04:19
syphon detonator syphon detonator is offline
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no doubt carrie is way hotter, and yes i would bang virtually any girl thats even moderatly atractive if given the chance. thats not to say i would admit to all of them but i would do it...
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Old 2002-12-05, 14:14
BlowStuffUp BlowStuffUp is offline
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the extention on the end of the barrel is a kick-back damper, to use a scorpion one handed you would need one, without it, it wounld be too powerful for you to hold.

What I wanna know is what are the guns that the agents have?
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Old 2002-12-05, 19:43
Rangoon Rangoon is offline
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The agents guns were desert eagals most of them had one anyway. http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg16-e.htm
syphon detonator would you bang the oracle?
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Old 2002-12-05, 20:17
syphon detonator syphon detonator is offline
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naw, im not into black chicks
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Old 2002-12-05, 21:16
I Love Poop I Love Poop is offline
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quote:
the extention on the end of the barrel is a kick-back damper


lol that's a very intresting way to describe what's commonly known as a muzzle break.
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Old 2002-12-05, 21:54
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quote:
Originally posted by che4rev:
The gun the oh so hot blond chick pulls on him in the car is indeed a browning hi power.



quote:
Originally posted by Rangoon:
That blond haired chick wasnt hot were you high/drunk or both when you watched the movie?



quote:
Originally posted by syphon detonator:
id bang her given the chance.



quote:
Originally posted by Rangoon:
:B: id bang her given the chance. :B:
Youd bang anyone if thats your standard Carrie Anne Moss was way hotter anyway, mmmm
pvc




quote:
Originally posted by syphon detonator:
no doubt carrie is way hotter, and yes i would bang virtually any girl thats even moderatly atractive if given the chance. thats not to say i would admit to all of them but i would do it...



quote:
Originally posted by Rangoon:
syphon detonator would you bang the oracle?



quote:
Originally posted by syphon detonator:
naw, im not into black chicks



Men think of sex every six seconds my ass.
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Old 2002-12-06, 06:55
Rangoon Rangoon is offline
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syphon detonator:naw, im not into black chicks:
Latinos are hotter.
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Old 2002-12-06, 10:50
gun-nut gun-nut is offline
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correction, the leaf-shaped openings at the
muzzle is called as a MUZZLE BRAKE,
not MUZZLE BREAK..

as the name implies, the muzzle brake will
try to keep the muzzle from climbing/
recoiling by diverting the burst to the sides
and thus the actual recoil from the muzzle is lower...
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Old 2002-12-10, 00:56
crAZedLUNitiC crAZedLUNitiC is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by Rangoon:
Also how would they be able to fire blanks out of and m16 (like in the lobby scene) I thought there wouldnt be enough pressure to cycle the breech,and the bullet wouldnt seal the barrel so woundnt most of the gas go out the barrel instead of
thourgh the gas port?




the lobby scene i have been lead to belive that is a real shot out without the opposition, then they are "over laped" for the effect.
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Old 2002-12-10, 09:13
Rangoon Rangoon is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by crAZedLUNitiC:
the lobby scene i have been lead to belive that is a real shot out without the opposition, then they are "over laped" for the effect.


What about the camera man and ricochettes
(S?) that just seems nutterish to me why not just fire blanks and be done with it instead of two takes. Crazy talk I say
 
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