ok im 14 and im big and all, but i dont really know how to fight. i mean i can throw punches hard but im always afraid to. i know i can beat someones ass, but when someone starts shit i never really fight them, and im tired of being a pussy. i need some like fighting techniques and like things to get the pussy out of me. like so i wont be scared to fight.

You could try personal instruction from a Ex-Soldier or a Martial Arts teacher. Books are pretty useless unless you have a friend to practice on/with.

Martial Arts are very useful but you must keep in mind that many of the MAs are ment to permanently incapacitate or injure the enemy, they are not meant for defensive fighting.

The best advise I can offer you is to NEVER fight without using your head disregard all emotions and urges this will act against you and will usually lead to your demise against a skilled opponent.

Shad

"Never assume, be absolutely sure"

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If you can punch hard and you are scared to fight that is great.
Just punch them in the nose or the chin it is very effective, and if it doesn't work right the first time you'll have a major adrenaline rush so if they hit back it wont hurt ya at the time so just keep punching them hard in the face and stomach if you do punch hard and who ever isn't expecting you to fight back at that age a few good hits will put your target outa comission for awhile just beware of little fuckers geting there friends and targeting your house or getting beat down by nine differant people.
and don't be scared to fight dirty because there is no such thing as a fair fight anymore just make sure they hit you first and go wevo beserker style on there ass

Dont be affraid of fighting dont be affraid af your opponent atleast dont show him, cuz then he will play around whit you, getting the others cheer on him, and that will be no good for you. The others are right, there are no fair fights anymore. So a cuple hard throws at his head, i that dosent do it then good hard knee right in the stomack would make him cof blood... if you really fighting whit the big geys some rambo type or somthing
then a real hard kick in hes balls would do real fine. now your at it give him a knee in the head to, from me....

oh yeah, if you are really big and all, just protect your head, cuz it aint gonna hurt whit a cupple of blows i the stomack.

oh and watch out for weapons, knife etc.
if you see one you are better of running,
cuz what do you most care of your life or your pride.
i like my life best you know. you can always win your pride back, not your life

I don't care how big and strong you are. They key to winning the fight is being quick. You gotta be quick.

If you loose it's just a little pain, that'll eventually subside.

I would say take aikido, which can make you a friggin GOD ina fight, the problem is it takes 40 years to life of training at least.

Why be so insecure about fighting? Why would you get in a fight in the first place?
I'm 17 and I've never fought in my life, just avoid dangerous situations.

Or practice run-fu...

- Berg Fighting systems
- Kick boxxing
- Wrestling
- Grappling
- Mauy thai

Fuck that other shit you want stuff that works in a street fight.

This is a topic that come up reguarlly, but this time theres been more good advice than normal, and most of what needs to be said has been already. ( Is that good English?)

I come from a bad bit of the UK, and was bullied a lot when I was around your age. I learnt Judo, then a lot of Thai boxing ( Muai Thai), and it made me more confident and let me deal with situations better, mainly becuase it lets you keep a straighter head. But seeing as you need advice for now, not in 6 months time, here are my idea, and the best of what I've learn't.

1) The last thing first, as it's most important. As soon as it's over GET AWAY. Don't ponce about, strut etc. Don't brag about it to your mates. Once it's done with NEVER mention it again. With a bit of luck it'll all go away. Most fights occur when peoples ego's get a knock.

2) Go for the most sensitive areas of the body. In a guy this is the end of his nose and his bollocks. If your punching into the face, try not to hit anywhere else. It'll stun the guy for a second, and make him pissed off. But it'll hurt YOU like fuck, and you won't be able to punch back.

3) On a woman, aim for the breasts. ( Apparently the left one, but the girls at Thai say the right one cuases nearly as much pain)

4) If you've got more than one guy against you, try to get the fight on your terms. Get your back against the wall, in a corner if you can. This means you only have to worry about two sides, not four.

The hardest fight in the world to be in is your first. Your scared for yourself and OF yourself, becuase when the adreniline hits, you become a totally different person, and you didn't know they were there. The key to getting into a scrap is this:

Even if you lose, then it doesn't matter. The kids your against are the same age or a bit older than you. As POOP says, if you lose, you heal real quick. BUT, the most important thing is that you'll have made an impression. You fought back. They know it, and you know it. And this will mean that they're gonna keep well away from you in future. Even if it takes two or three scraps to either win or get them to piss off, so what? Oncwe it's done it's done. And you'll have a whole lot of respect for yourself, and from them as well.

In the longer term, I would suggest finding a Thai Boxing club. This is a martial art that is the most heavily based on actual real-life fighting. You get taught the really important things, like easy to hold blocks, how to balance properly etc.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

RipSlider

Try a martial arts class out.

-Matt

Well if you are in HS, try out for the wrestling team, then use that with punching, since you usually end up rolling on the ground in a fight. My personal favorite in HS was to hit the guy in the throat with the meaty part of my hand between my thumb and forefinger. not hard just a jab. they went down like a easy bitch on prom night. and then, like Rip says, RUN. Also, don't fight fair. You don't fight for honor, you fight to win :O)

Yes, a jab to the throat will end a fight real quick. Just don't hit it very hard unless it's a life or death situation. No sense killing a guy in a school yard fight.
Also I've taken 6 years of judo and found it most usefull in fights. A grappling martial art is good because most fights end up on the ground anyways, great to see the look on their face and hear a scream of pain from a guy much bigger than you when you get a nice arm\wrist lock on him.

My favorite wrestling move is the Banana Split, which is basically when you grapple and pull their legs wide apart with both arms and your leg. Guys are generally not flexable and if you pull hard enough you can pull their groin which hurts like a bitch

i know people bag boxing and say its no good in a street fight, but i think its the best.
i havnt had that much experience but i know that punching is the fastest thing u can do and if u had a fight with anyone and u knew boxing i think u would kick there ass because u just go in there and dont stop punching them till there down on there ass. apart from grappling...the only fighters i would be woried about are muay thai fighters, and what the fuck would they do if they were getting the fuck punched out of them.(they dont learn blocking and countering attacks as effectivly as a boxer)they would probly try and grab u around the neck and knee u.
as soon as they grab me, id head but them,
and as soon as they kick/knee id kick there supporting leg.
then just a few stomps on the head would do the trick.
but obviosly ju-jistu, akido or any of them grapplers would be trouble coz they can break limbs and shit.
anyway, bye

well first of all Logan punching is not the fastest mov in close combat. kick is all the trick is to make a shor and low jump in a palace and let your leg go straight to opponents solar plexus (tobi mae geri if anyone practises karate) u should know that arm is shorter than leg so at the same distance leg has to cover less lenth of its own than the leg. and if y met a muai thai fighter it would take him about 5 sec. to understand that u are a boxer.So he would just fall back to a longer distance and use his legs: staraight kicks to keep the distance and blows to your legs to beat up you. it may seem that kicking legs is useles, but after 4-5 blows to a leg u would not feel it anymore and not beying able to use your legs is fatal to any fighter(no pointin arms if u cant move) and by the way it hurts like shit.and when it will hurt so u will try to block the next kick with your arms and too late u will realise that your head is uncovered... i hope u understand that happens next. I am not a muai-thai boxer I train kyokushinkai karate but boxers sometimes come over to have common trainings with us and that's the way we used to take them down untill they lurned to block low-kicks.

ok i see where ur coming from . but there is no way that u can kick as fast as punch unless u stand on one leg and do a million little snap kicks. and theres no way a boxer would stand there taking them.
and when u were sparing with boxers they were most likely dancing and then coming in for a few hits now and then. and if a boxer did that in a street fight ur right, he would get hes ass kicked. but if boxer walked into a fight and just bunched the guy until he was down, no the karate guy wouldnt stand a chance because, do u really think that you could lift that leg when ur getting boxed in the head.
karate is uselless because there stance is to wide and they dont put shoulder power and body weight into there punches. so in close combat there fucked. and when they punch there other hand tuckes in against there hip, and theres no way they can block a series of punches..and mabey not even one if there not fast enough.
if u were at equil weight with ur opponent and u were a boxer with no gloves (street fight) i dont think it'll even take 4 hits for them to drop. and four punches can be delivered even befour u knew what hit u.
the only reason i said muay thai fighters would stand a chance is coz they learn how to punch proplery too. but there blocking is not good enough.
p.s. i had a play fight with my friend who is a karate censay and i got about 5 (non contact hits on him and blocked all hes punched in a matter of seconds, not to mention ive only been doing boxing for about 2months
and no offence dude.
chill.
bye

I am not talking about shotokan or sioriunriu karate logan where punches are performed just to touch an opponnent kyokushin karate fighters get points only for knockdowns or knockouts fighta are performed only in full contact. boxer's punches are vast and powerfull thats true but most of them have wery week defence against kicks.And believe me kicks are not so slow as it might seem and in short distance: a two inch-high jump and kick are real fast.U see Logan sometimes there is no use of punching cose u just can't reach an opponent.Remember Muhammad's Ali fight fits some karateka 10 rounds and no punches...
I don't say that boxing is bad or worthlessit's cool but just it has its own pluses and minuses and every fighting style has it's own ways of dealing one or other problem

I've taking Shotokhan karate for about 10 years, along with judo. Messed around some bit with other things, no serious training though.

Try to aviod fights, yeah it sounds like being a pussy but hey, MA's are for defense, not going out and jut whipping ass.

As for fighting techniques, kicks in the leg work like magic. A nice shot to the side of the knee ends it right there, but only do that if your really over matched. At your age, one hell of a kick to the side of the thigh will more than likely make the fight easier, like the other guys said, if you can't walk there's no way in hell you are gonna win the fight.

Also, don't loose your cool, worst thing you can do. When you get pissed and start throwing huge haymakers and what not you are going to get fucked up.

So, yeah this is all basic and what not but yeah, The nose is great, it hurts like hell, will water their eyes too. Also, there's a nerve in the lower lip, a good shot there will KO them, and if you can punch hard, a nice stick in the solar-plexis will end it. Kinda hard to fight when your doubled over gasping for breath, and even then they'll be sore for fucking days.


-nex

yea walkatazz, i dunno. like in my head i can emagion beating a karate guy and in urs u can emagion beating a boxer.
its the same with ur friends usually...u think u can make them piss, and they think that they can make u piss.
but im no one to say that boxing will beat karate, coz ive never been in a serious fight with one.
so only time will tell i guess


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to paperswans are fun.
dude, i use to be a pussy, just like u...but i went to the gym for about a month and tanked up a bit.
then i joined boxing, and after like a month, i was confedent to get in a fight at nearly every party ive been to...and i attacked a police officer that lyed about something i done...so there u go......theres no miricle way to not be scared of fighting.but if u know how to fight, u'll gain great confidence. expecially if u do a martial art with contact sparing.
goodluck