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| Weapons and Combat This is the forum dedicated to weapons, martial arts, and their related technical, political and social issues. Weapons and Combat is for the safe and responsible use of firearms, knives, fists and other weapons. This forum is about real weapons - Threads about paintball, airsoft, and other sport related combat may posted in Go Team. |
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#1
 2002-01-17, 00:21
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insane_blaine 
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Martial Arts
Hey i've been thinking for along time about joining a martial art, but i'am not sure as which one to pick like as in the most deadly one i could be in!? I've looked in my phone book for martial arts and these are all the ones that are avalible to me, Which one would you honestly would want to be in, Also which one is the most deadly out of my list ;
Here they are..
Ju Jitsu Karate Aikido Kung Fu AikiKai Tai Chi Chaun JUDO Tae Kwon Do Kick Boxxing
What do you think?
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#2
 2002-01-17, 02:16
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phracktal 
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Re: Martial Arts
aikido. though i call it people-gami.
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#3
 2002-01-17, 03:52
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insane_blaine 
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Re: Martial Arts
I Saw a number of videos of people sparing in Aikido there is not actual punching and kicking they just throw each-other around it does not look like it would be anygood in a street fight inless you threw him on the ground and started stompin him, but ive noticed thats when other people start jumpin in on the fight!
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#4
 2002-01-17, 04:43
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phracktal 
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Re: Martial Arts
i brought up aikido because your goal should not be to hurt people. aikido is mostly phor imobilizing people and if there persistant little shits, breaking every bone in their body.(thats a last case scenario of course) aikido should protect you on the street but if your lookin to start shit with people, i would suggest going to like gunsite training center in arizona. after all, most street phites include weapons of some sort.
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#5
 2002-01-17, 05:50
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insane_blaine 
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Re: Martial Arts
My goal is not to start shit! I Just find myself getting in a lot of fights Im already a decent "fighter" if you would like to call it. But I would like to learn a martial art.
[This message has been edited by insane_blaine (edited 01-17-2002).]
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#6
 2002-01-17, 15:48
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gun-nut 
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Re: Martial Arts
KUNG FU? if you want to learn then you would have to know which are you learning: unarmed kung fu defensive technique weapons
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#7
 2002-01-17, 23:04
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Paco de Niro 
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Re: Martial Arts
FYI Aikido : Martial art that seeks to resolve conflict through peaceful means.
Arnis/Escrima/Kali : The Filipino martial arts (FMA) emphasize learning weapons first--then empty-hand skills. Bando : Includes striking, kicking, and grappling, with an emphasis on mimicing animal fighting methods. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu : Brazilian jiu-jitsu is a grappling martial art that emphasizes chokes and limb locks. Capoeira : Brought to Brazil by African slaves, capoeira is a deceptive martial art disguised as dancing. Cuong Nhu : The Vietnamese art of Cuong Nhu integrates techniques from karate, vovinam, boxing, wing chun, judo, aikido, and tai chi. Gatka : Gatka is the martial art of the Sikh warrior, and is famous for its efficiency with the shaster (sword) and lathi (staff). Hapkido : This Korean art mixes aikido's throws and locks with tae kwon do's kicks.
Iaido : Iaido is the art of drawing the Japanese sword and delivering a decisive cut. Jeet Kune Do (JKD) : JKD is the martial art founded by Bruce Lee. JKD is one of the best-known hybrid martial arts, incorporating techniques from all martial arts. Ju Jitsu : The "gentle" art of arm locks and chokes, once used to defeat armor-wearing samurai. Judo : Judo involves throwing your opponent to the mat, pinning your opponent with a hold-down technique, or causing your opponent to submit with an armbar or a choke. Kajukenbo : Kajukenbo originated in post WWII Honolulu, combining techniques from Korean karate (Ka), Jujitsu (ju), Kenpo (ken), and Chinese boxing (bo)--kung fu. Karate : The "art of the empty-hand", karate involves kicking and punching as well as the use of weapons. Kendo : Japanese fencing, derived from the legendary sword fighting schools of the samurai. Kenpo : Kenpo took a circuituous route from the Shaolin Temple of China to the modern-day United States, picking up refinements and enhancements along the way. Krav Maga : Krav Maga is the martial art of the Israeli military. Kung Fu : The martial arts of China, and to many, the forerunner of all Asian martial arts. Kyudo : Derived from samurai warfare, "Zen Archery" sharpens the mind and focuses the spirit. Lua - Hawaiian Warrior Arts : Lua is the martial art of the Hawaiian warrior, and is known for fearsome bone breaking techniques. Muay Thai : Muai thai kickboxing is renowned world-wide for brutal strikes with the elbows and knees. Definitely a serious combat art. Naginata : Weapon art of choice for samurai women, it survives today in a sport form. Ninjutsu : The martial art of the shadow warrior, ninjutsu is steeped in lore and mystery. ROSS : ROSS is a system of Russian martial arts unifying various traditional fistfighting and wrestling styles with imperial military training. SAMBO/SOMBO : SAMBO, aka SOMBO, is a Russian style of wrestling popular in international competitions, as well as a combat art taught to the Soviet military. San Shou : San shou incorporates wushu, grappling, and kickboxing to make a combat-oriented martial art. Savate : This French style of foot fighting began in the Napoleonic era. Shorinji Kempo : Shorinji kempo extends Chinese boxing with Zen philosophy; at higher ranks, the uniform is the robes of a Buddhist priest. Silat : Silat is considered one of the most effective combat arts. Sumo : One of the forerunners to the modern grappling arts of jiu-jitsu and judo, sumo is exciting and action-packed while retaining its traditional splendor and ceremony. Tae Kwon Do : Kick-oriented Korean "art of hand and foot fighting" is one of the most popular sports in the world. Styles include ITF and WTF. Tai Chi Chuan : The martial art/exercise/cultivator of internal energy. Includes the Bagua (Pa Kua) and Xingyi (Hsing-I) internal styles. Tang Soo Do : A Korean martial art popularized by Chuck Norris. Tukong Moosul : Tukong moosul is a martial art derived from South Korean military Special Forces training.
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#8
 2002-01-17, 23:58
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insane_blaine 
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Re: Martial Arts
I Looked around town and i saw a place called "Peterecs Kick Boxxing" Would Kick boxxing be a good one to learn?
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#9
 2002-01-18, 03:54
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SnakeEye 
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Re: Martial Arts
Of the mentioned martial arts, I've only done Karate and Kick Boxing. I think kick boxing has contributed a lot more to my fighting skills, for one specific reason: I have no doubt that all the other martial arts are very effective if you learn them to perfection, but kick boxing lets you start to learn really effective stuff after a relatively short time (about 1/2 year), ie. you get done with the dry basic very quickly.
In addition, kick boxing puts you in a relatively realistic fighting scenario (the ring) after only about a year, where you hit people with all your might and get hit back. That is very important, because it teaches you one very important point: It is not the end of the world if you catch a hard one on your chin. If you cringe in a fight against an exerienced fighter, you will lose. End of discussion.
There is, however, one other martial art that I would recommend above all, namely Krav Maga. It is an israeli military art that was developed during the 60s and 70s, and its goal is very simple: In less than half a year to teach green recruits to kill or seriously harm people using only their hands or simple instruments like sticks / bayonets / rocks etc. It is a truly awesome skill, but alas there are few clubs practicing it. If you can find one, get in.
~Snake
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#10
 2002-01-20, 18:17
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Re: Martial Arts
if you want just learn how to hurt someone...teach yourself. i take different moves from different styles of fighting (e.g. boxing, kung fu, karate, kick boxing) and incorporate them into my own style...also learn the pressure points and design and practice moves to use them effectively.
but if you want to learn discipline...go for either kung fu or karate...or possibly both!
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#11
 2002-01-21, 00:10
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FeedTheGods 
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Re: Martial Arts
Forget traditional styles. We aren't in a "fuedal Chinese" era, and you don't need to know how to punch through bamboo armor to protect your farm...
Learn muay thai kickboxing. If there isn't somewhere that teaches it close to you then find some instructional tapes and buy them. After you learn the basics (punches, kicks, knees, elbows, the clinch) then just train your ass off. Make up your own combos and use what works best for you. Next go out and buy the Tao of Jeet Kune Do (by Bruce Lee) and "Bruce Lee's Training Method" (a four book set). Learn Bruce's striking techniques and incorporate it into your Muay Thai. Then go for JuJitsu. Preferably Freestyle Jujitsu or Gracie Jujitsu. Or Shootfighting. You need one of these to get you good on the ground (where most fights end up). Work harder on your ground training, as it takes longer to adapt to then stand-up fighting. I've been training in Muay Thai for 10 years, Jeet Kune Do for 6 years, and freestyle Jujitsu for 5 years, and I've found this combination to work really well...
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#12
 2002-01-23, 01:51
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talon_bitcz 
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Re: Martial Arts
Out of all of thoughs I would suggest aikido, it works well on multiple people and in real life situations. Keep in mind the whole non-harmful aspect takes in to account that you have been trained to fall from each individual move, and not on concrete at that.
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#13
 2002-01-23, 19:22
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Raf_the_Penguin 
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Re: Martial Arts
ever heard of Aki-Jutsu? might wanna check out www.martialartscorner.com goto techniques n you might find something that draws your interests
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#14
 2002-01-24, 04:57
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Re: Martial Arts
Tai Chi Chuan is by far the coolest, and most difficult, of the listed martial arts. Even though it may seem impractical, because no one knows how to do it properly anymore, it requires the most decipline and willingness. The world renowned Tai Chi Chaun experts can do things like, levitate off the floor mere fractions of an inch, or set paper on fire at 3 inches, or something ridiculous like that. But I think that maybe, at one time, we were much more adroit at the skills of using our chi and we have just lost it over the years. My friends sensay (don't know how to spell that) can do minimal things with chi energy and it is impressive. I am trying to study the art now and it requires serious meditation. This probably wouldn't help you in combat for several years, except to strengthen the bond between your mind body and spirit, which increases reflexes and aweareness. This all sounds new agey I'm sure but eventually we may be able to learn what we have lost and regain a power not seen for centuries.
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#15
 2002-01-24, 05:23
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Re: Martial Arts
I seen a guy on Ripleys light a sheet of paper with his bare hands from 3 inches away. that would be so cool to be able to do, I bet noone would fuck w/ you.
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#16
 2002-01-24, 07:16
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Jamopy 
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Re: Martial Arts
If you want something realistic learn Muay Thai. Unless its combatives, which by their very nature cant be used for sparring, never choose any martial art that doesnt use REAL sparring with REAL punches. Otherwise its just dancing.
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#17
 2002-01-25, 01:11
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insane_blaine 
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Re: Martial Arts
Please no more Mauy thai boxxing, I want to know what would be the best one out of my list (Those are the only fighting places in my area)
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#18
 2002-01-25, 11:24
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joho 
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Re: Martial Arts
I used to think that one might be better than another.But the truth is they all have there good points and bad points.Try to pick one that involves kicking and punching and grapling or do what i do cross train kick boxing+ju jitsu.
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#19
 2002-01-25, 19:58
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biot 
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Re: Martial Arts
honestly take boxing lessons and maybe a grabling class if you want to get fancy pant about it. any martial art like tae kwon do would be kinda cool. the major thing i have learned about martial arts is that unless you've been doing it for ten years you'll be good enough to allmost pull it off out side the class room and then get punched in the face. maybe i just wasn't the best or something but i prefer to keep it as simple as possible. spar a lot in class, even this isn't anything close to a real fight but it makes you less afraid of people up in your face and getting the wind knock of you and shit like that. do sits ups. HIYAAA MOTHAFUCA!!
[This message has been edited by biot (edited 01-25-2002).]
[This message has been edited by biot (edited 01-25-2002).]
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#20
 2002-01-27, 04:09
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Raf_the_Penguin 
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Re: Martial Arts
anyone know anything bout drunken style? that'd be pretty damn useful considering when im in town/other potentially violent places im almost always drunk. is there a stoner fu btw? twould be good to help deal with paranoia imo
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