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 #1 
Old 2001-12-27, 22:09
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Default .303 Britsh Mk1

im looking for more information on the .303 britsh Mk1
all i know about it right now is that it is a WW2 edition it has a 7 round clip the bolt can not be removed (in the war they did not want to lose the bolts to the gun while in action)in the butt end of the gun it has a little flap that can be opened and i beleave it is a cleaning kit storage it is a lee-enfield it also has a stamp on the left side of the stalk of the gun with a crown on it

thats all i can think of right now if any one can find some information or knows were i can get some info please let me know if you need more info you can ask me but at this time i can not think of any thing else
thanks for your input

[This message has been edited by warweed12 (edited 12-27-2001).]
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Old 2001-12-28, 00:58
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enfields have very strong actions, even more so than the mauser 98.
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Old 2001-12-28, 07:03
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though i typically agree with rev, im gonna have to contest this one.

the k 98 mauser had a superior action to any bolt action rifel of the day. so good in fact that most modern bolt action sws's still use a variation on the original mauser action. originally intruduced in 1898, the mauser and variants saw action in most all world conflicts between then and now and old factory stock mausers are still being used as personal hunting rifles the world over.

as for the .303. though the action is strong and the mag cap is higher than most bolt action guns of the period, it is still somewhat limited bah the balistics of the round. the short barrel of the weapon helps to contribute to the slower bullet velocitys and i wouldnt expext more than about 2100 fps. the best variant of the weapon, that i can think of, would be the mk 4 jungle carbine with its super short barrel and flash supressor. it was in mah opinion the best way to exploit the potential of such a slow round. it was used like a brush gun in asia in WW2 because scoping such a rifle in that environment would overly limit its usefullness what with all the trees and all

though scoped mk1 and mk4 rifles can be found, the only scopes that really do any good would have to be the factory original glass. the reason for this lies in that few companies make glass thats BDCd for the round. dan shepered makes one but its was too expensive and would look odd on such an old weapon........i think mah brain just went blank.......dang
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Old 2001-12-28, 16:11
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I didn't say it was better, just stronger. One dose not have to reinforce an enfield action to barrel it in a magnum caliber, one dose need to reinforce a 98 action to do the same thing.

I would take a 98 or a 96 any day over an enfield unless I was gonna barrel it in some "oh my god" calliber like .458 win or .416 rigby.
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Old 2001-12-29, 04:14
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fair enough...
the best modified mk4 i ever saw was one parkerized and redone in .308. the stock was nicely done in laminate and it was completely "hawkins'd" out. complete with the 9" benchrest harris and nikon glass.

it was a nice gun but in all reality, i would stick with the tiger 98.(the sniper variant)

and dont tell anybody but i appologize if i misunderstood you..........(damned conscience)
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Old 2001-12-29, 05:58
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Never seen a tiger 98. Are they mass produced? I am in the market for a new long range tactical rifle.
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Old 2001-12-29, 09:50
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i have never seen many tiger 98's in the same place but occasionally, like at gun shows, ive been lucky enough to see a few in good condition. the tiger is am 8mm mauser like all the rest but it was glassed with a BDC'd 4 power (i think) and it had a curved bolt handle unlike the turkish mausers of the day. while not typically found with glass intact, the good condition tiger 98's can be modified to have a free floating barrel and, if your good, a lighter trigger.........ya know what,.... i think im drunk.......ill repost later...and it will make sense........phinally
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Old 2001-12-29, 14:32
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sound's like a colectors item
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Old 2001-12-29, 18:29
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the last one i saw was at a buddy of mine's gun store and i think it was going phor right around $250.(a bit steep phor an old mauser but i couldnt see conplaining over the price)
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Old 2001-12-29, 19:08
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i own one it's not legal i picked it up in the feld
it's got a flap at the back and inside there is a rope with a metal at the end now releash the bolt this is done by pulling it backyards you'll see a piece of metal blocking it infront will be a switch flip it and pull out the bolt now drop threw the metal pin first then the rope when firing use causion i learned it the hard lay down and fire don't stand
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Old 2001-12-29, 19:35
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i allways phined that its more comfortable to stand or sit with a high powered rifle. i remember firing my m44 once phrom prone and i couldn't move mah sholder phor a good few minutes.(then again, i was shooting up a hill)
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Old 2001-12-30, 20:50
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sorry mine is a mk3
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Old 2002-01-10, 01:10
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This thread is dead and i got a lot of pointless info is there any onw that can get me muzzle velocite over all weight lenght ECT.... all possible stats
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Old 2002-01-10, 03:32
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Rifle Long Lee-Enfield No I Mk I (1897)


Adopted in November 1895, it is a 'Lee' designed action with an 'Enfield Rifled' barrel. The Lee bolt action was first used in December 1888 but was fitted with a Metford rifling barrel. This was in the days of the black-powder loaded cartridge which had a soft lead bullet. With the introduction of 'cordite' and the cupro-nickel jacketed bullet, the result of wear and tear in the barrel was disastrous, especially at the breech end. The life span of the Metford barrel was reduced from 10,000 to 4200 rounds, when barrels became completely unserviceable. The answer to this was a new form of rifling developed at the RSAF Enfield. This was approved and embodied in what was previously the Lee-Metford rifle, and it was introduced in the British Service as the 'Lee-Enfield' Magazine Rifle Mk 1. The sights were also modified. It saw service in Boer War.

Barrel Length : 30� inches, Calibre : .303 inches.
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Carbine Magazine Lee-Metford Mk I


Adopted in 1897, being a shortened version of the Lee-Metford Rifle Mk II. This is a cavalry carbine.

Markings - butt stamp for the Royal Manufactuary Enfield Class I. It has a dust cover to the bolt and a 5 round magazine.

Barrel Length : 30 7/8 inches, Calibre : .303 inches.


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Rifle No 1 Short Magazine Lee-Enfield Mk Ill*


Adopted during World War 1, and made in very large quantities, is still in widespread use throughout the world. Does not have the long range sights of earlier models. The RSAF at Enfield made over 2 million of this model and the No 1 Mk 111. BSA made 1,601,608 and LSA made several hundred thousand. It went out of production in the UK in 1943, but was still being produced in Australia and India up until 1955.

This weapon was manufactured by BSA. Dating from around World War 1.

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enfield "sniper" rifel

The production model of the P13, introduced as the P14 (Pattern 14). This rifle was made in the United States in .303 inch calibre for the UK during World War 1. The weapon was classed as limited standard in the British Army and, except for sniping, was not too widely used. When the United States entered World War 1, the design was changed to US calibre .30 inch and produced as the US rifle cal .30 in M1917, but still commonly known as the 'Enfield'.

In 1926 when British small srms were given number designations, the P14 became the Rifle No 3 Mk 1.

The rifle was made up complete as a Sniper rifle; the Army Issue scope, bolt and weapon marked with the same serial number.

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Originally appeared in 1931 and was finely made. It was redesigned for mass production in 1939 and, together with the Mk I*, became the British 'work horse' of World War 2. Three different types of rear sight may be found on this weapon, ranging from a finely machined adjustable leaf to the simple 'L' type flip-over. Many of these weapons are still in service in the British Commonwealth and in former British territories.

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enfield "jungle carbine"

Appearing towards the end of World War 2 (manufactured in 1945), this was a lightweight weapon and was commonly called the 'Jungle Carbine'. It had a lightened and shortened barrel which is fitted with a flash-hider.

The stock fore-end has been cut back and rounded, which tends to give the appearance of a sporting rifle. A rubber pad fitted to the butt provides extra protection against recoil. Some of these weapons were manufactured in Australia out of Coach wood.


there ya go sport.





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Old 2002-01-11, 20:00
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Default Re: .303 Britsh Mk1

Thanks man
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Old 2002-01-12, 15:24
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do you own one?
because i've got an entire crate of ammo
for lee-enfield .303 mk1 i got it for free
and have nothing to do with it

by the way which one would you pick a AK 47 for N$35 or an AK 74 for N$200 i've test fired both i prefure the 74 but it's to highly prised for an black market gun so i would like to know what you would take
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Old 2002-01-12, 20:10
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i dont have a .303 so i wouldnt know what to do with the ammo.

i would choose the 47 just because of the fact that its seen a phuckload more combat than the 74.(i tend to go with with whats time tested and true)as far as kalishnikov's go though(i think i spelled that wrong) i much prefer the soviet SVD in 7.62x54. preferably with the original PS02 glass.
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Old 2002-01-12, 20:37
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Default Re: .303 Britsh Mk1

i own one would you be willing to sell your ammo if so how much would you want ?
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Old 2002-01-13, 19:15
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you can have it just come and fetch it i don't need it it's to heavy for my atic
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Old 2002-01-13, 21:20
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were abouts do you live ? and is there a way we could arrange some sort of shipping ? if you have msn messenger add me to your list and we can talk
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Old 2002-01-18, 18:00
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sorry dude i'm not going to america to deliver those to you you ask what's diffrence between MK1 and MK3
MK1 is a longer bullet
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Old 2002-01-19, 23:16
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no i was wondering if you would b willing to send the crate UPS then i can pay any shiping charges and stuff
 
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