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| Weapons and Combat This is the forum dedicated to weapons, martial arts, and their related technical, political and social issues. Weapons and Combat is for the safe and responsible use of firearms, knives, fists and other weapons. This forum is about real weapons - Threads about paintball, airsoft, and other sport related combat may posted in Go Team. |
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#1
 2001-05-03, 13:27
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EOD Marine 
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Kung Fu styles
where can I learn bout the different styles like dragon, crane ect.... I have ot start taking Kung Fu, whats does Kung Fu teach you? is it a good art to take?
Later
------------------ -EOD Marine
Things go Boom! When i am at Work!
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#2
 2001-05-03, 22:27
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Re: Kung Fu styles
you might solve a mystery...
or rewrite history......
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#3
 2001-05-03, 23:47
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EOD Marine 
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Re: Kung Fu styles
I am tryign to find a stly that fits me...i want a powerful Kung Fu that can kill someone very easily...since I will be marines I will need to take one that will be able to accomplish this...although I doubt I will kill anyone we still have to pic ka style to take...
Later
------------------ -EOD Marine
Things go Boom! When i am at Work!
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#4
 2001-05-05, 11:31
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Re: Kung Fu styles
We? Ok if your going to join the marines learn combat defense training. not kung fu. they beat around the bush alot. find someone that teaches cross training styles or combat self defense. Stay away from traditional styles. waste of time. anyways they teach you self defense in the marines and they offer advanced courses real cheap. knife fighting weapons training unarmed combat etc.. but since your impatient go with one mentioned earlier. remember when you choose the style you want to take make sure its down to earth and basic. meaning no flying jump kicks no kicks over the waist except in practice or stretching no fancy stances. good luck EOD. I wanted to join the marines and go into EOD but cant.
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#5
 2001-05-06, 22:50
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Re: Kung Fu styles
"Stay away from traditional styles. waste of time."
wrong very, wrong. the are techniques that you will never be taught in the armed forces nor in any book or video, simply because they are so hard to learn, but once you do learn them you can appear to others almost super human in some respects, one such technique is iron vest or iron shirt kungfu... swords, knifes cannot penetrate your body, even the usually soft neck area can become almost invunerable to damage.
EOD the army is run by hypocites and liers so watch yourself.
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#6
 2001-05-06, 23:35
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Re: Kung Fu styles
Hung Gar kung fu is a good one, it has roots in the martial arts history, the iron shirt one there takes years with a REAL sifu to learn preferably from shaolin. no I aint kidding here. But it is possible, I've seen it done before. As for the army they really only do teach you the basics of hand to hand.
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#7
 2001-05-07, 09:23
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Re: Kung Fu styles
ok cube i was talking about traditional martial arts in a military environment and still stick with what i said a waste of time. by the time he learns iron shirt or iron palm or fist or head or any other iron style properly he would already be retired. dont get me wrong i like the philosophy culture and tradition but for military purposes i say NO. I know iron palm fist and shirt so i dont disagree with them and im not a master either. my body and still be pierced and damaged but not as much as another person. i currently do not pratice the iron practices anymore. too many physical side affects. also i practice chi kung healing and martial arts so i know what im talking about but choose not to promote them for the military. martial arts were invented to be simple and easy to learn and they were until someone decided to modify it to a fanciful bunch of usless nonsense. you must look at the root of a style to know its true meaning. like wing chun you could learn advanced wing chun in less than 6 months with practice. now thats what i like to call down to earth but it is still restricted by its stances and defense. so that is why i suggest a more modern cross training or combat self defense. well i babbled to long so its time to stop. this will be my last post in defense of my statement said earlier.
"I will not argue with a fool to become a fool" Sir Thomas Moore, UTOPIA
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#8
 2001-06-13, 16:23
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digital 
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Re: Kung Fu styles
i have total respect for the traditional arts, but i don't think they can contest w/ some of the modern styles of fighting. anyone ever watch ufc? i've never seen anyone in the kung-fu(judo, akido, etc.) win. i think some of the newer styles, which build off the tradional styles, are the most effective. shootfighting takes from different martial arts and mixes in many wrestling aspects. let's face it when you get in fight most times it ends up on the ground. for striking i recommend kickboxing.
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#9
 2001-06-13, 17:05
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Re: Kung Fu styles
Traditional arts weren't designed for use in an enclosed area, though, especially the softer kung fu styles. Aikido's basis is specifically not to hurt the opponent- of course someone who's spent a lot of time on that will be at a disadvantage in UFC. More than that, though, is that when you reach the very top levels of skill, it becomes one fighter against another, not one art against another. One way may have advantages in a closed-ring situation that another doesn't, but essentially it comes down to who can adapt to the other's tactics the best.
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#10
 2001-06-14, 19:49
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Re: Kung Fu styles
Wing Chun is one of the most effective styles of kung fu, but I wouldn't go with a traditional style. Sure, you'll learn something from them, but you'll also waste your time learning shit like katas, and that shit never works in real combat. Start with learning the concepts of Jeet Kune Do - such as the stances and the proper ways to kick and punch. From there go into a more realistic fighting style, such as shootfighting. I've taken Tai Chi (which utilized the dragon, tiger, crane, snake styles) and it was pretty worthless, boxing, which was good to teach me how to move and defend, Muay Thai kickboxing, which taught me a solid offense and a lot of powerful techniques, Jeet Kune Do, which I learned the proper ways to punch and kick (you can learn to increase your hitting power by 80-100 percent) and also taught me how to fight in either the orthodox or southpaw stance, and shootfighting, which is definitely an art of war and the art that I feel made me complete... In my opinion here's what you should do: go take boxing for a few months - work a lot on your movement and your defense. From there take Jeet Kune Do for a while, maybe 6 months...take it until you feel you are ready to advance to the final stage of your training. Once you feel you are ready move on to shootfighting or a similar style which teachs both striking and grappling/submission. Shootfighting will make you complete. Here are a few tips for you...When you are shadowboxing or practicing puches and kicks, or hitting a bag, always pretend like it is the real thing. See your opponent in front of you...and remember not to cheat yourself when you are training - you fight like you train, so give it your all. Trust me on this...
------------------ "Possessed, I feel the conquering will down inside me - Strength, the strength of many to crush who might stop me...." - Mouth for War, Pantera
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#11
 2001-06-14, 21:32
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digital 
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Re: Kung Fu styles
of course non of these tips, training, etc. will help you if you don't have the right mentality.
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#12
 2001-06-17, 08:56
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FeedTheGods 
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Re: Kung Fu styles
Of course...the mentality is 90% of the fight...Ever hear the saying "you are your toughest opponent"? It's true. Have confidence but don't be overconfident, or else you will underestimate your enemy. Realize what kind of danger you are getting into, but also realize what kind of danger you are putting your opponent into, which basically means know yourself...that sounds kinda stupid but I can't think of a better way to say it (or type it). Stay relaxed and breathe naturally. Here are the 2 best pieces of advice that I've ever received: Don't think that it is you fighting - don't think that it is something you are doing, rather, think that it is something that is happening through you...like you are being guided by another force...a powerful force. Tell yourself this while training. Make yourself believe this to be true. Trust me, you will see a difference...and the second piece of advice is this: Rid yourself of all desire. I'm not talking about your desire to be rich or famous or whatever...what I mean is, well, some guys think they are a badass...they think they can fight and that they are the toughest man around. They see themselves for how they want to see them instead of how they really are. Don't see yourself the way you want to see you - see yourself how you really are and then work to make yourself into what you want to be (how you originally saw yourself). By seeing yourself how you want to instead of how it really is you are limiting yourself.... This is getting kinda long so I'm gonna shut up now...
------------------ "Possessed, I feel the conquering will down inside me - Strength, the strength of many to crush who might stop me...." - Mouth for War, Pantera
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