there is a whole mess of fighting styles the ones that i noe are ......kung fu, street fight, cat fight. drunken monkey, takwondo, and theres more

are they the same thing ?

like wut is kung fu (kicking some ones ass)
takewondo(defence)

mmmmhmm...k
well, apart from your vaugness, i'll try to answer as best i can. Kung Fu is a very ancient style. Literally translated it means something like 'greatness in hard work' so it could actually apply to a lot of stuff, but kung fu as a martial style is very widespread and popular. Many other styles are based on it, drunken monkey being one. Other styles are kenpo, northern or southern style, etc. Street and cat fight are just slang and are not really a set style. Tae Kwon Do is a style that uses a lot of kicks, it's very powerful but very vulnerable style.
If you're looking for something to study, I'd recommend straight up boxing or wrestling. That'd help you deal with ppl who fight with no style. Kung fu will work too, but it's set up to be used mostly against other kung fu. It's probably best to learn several styles to maximize your versatility.

Carry a gun and shoot anyone who fucks with you.

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Duct Tape, it binds the world together.

These are all individual styles:

karate
kung fu
tae kwon do
kenpo
aikido
hop-kido
judo
jujitsu
capoeira (Brazillian)
muay thai
kajunbo (a combo style of karate, judo, kenpo, and boxing)

They all have their similarites and differences, and each have their strong points. Capoeira is known among martial arts enthusiasts as possibly the most dangerous, and difficult, martial arts style in the world.

You'de do best to start out learning something like Asian Grappling. Since most fisticuffs end up on the ground, it would be wise to have your primary advantage there. From there, an aggressive, offensive style might be appropriate, as aggression tends to unnnerve opponents more than good defense. I would recomened Tae Kwon Do or Tang Soo Do. Any hard, aggressive form will do though, (such as Kick Boxing or Muai Tai). Afterwards, if you are still hungry for more, it would probably be good to focus on your defense with a style like Aikido. On the side you may also wish to practice some mental, energy controlling arts such as Tai Chi or Yoga. These can help with your focus and improve flexibility and stamina.

Learn to hit hard.

There are actually literally 100's of styles of fighting arts.

western ones include boxing, freestyle and greco wrestling, catchwrestling and various military unarmed styles.

eatstern ones include various types of karate, kung-fu and ju-jitsu. Judo, aikido, muay thai, bando, san shou, sumo, escrima, kali, tae kwan do etc.

Capoira is a brazilian martial art, though generally its considered uneffective.

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If a dogs born in a stable it doesnt make it a horse.

I took judo for 5 years before i got cancer.

i have always prefered grappling and submission moves.

this is one of my favorite moves.

the person would have to be on their hands and knees for this one to work

with you on their right side, (their head is on the same side as your right arm)

hook your right leg around their right arm from the outside. lock your right ankle in the pit of your lift knee.

from here you can do either one of two things.


1. fall foreward onto the person's back and slide onto the floor while maintaing the arm-lock with your legs. make sure to put PLENTY of pressure with your pelvis on the elbow. be prepared for a little pain around the groinal area, but this is damn painful. it can break the elbow with enough force. and breakage through hyperextension is hella painful.

2. while having your enemy's arm still in the lock, put your hands on the ground on the other side of your enemy. spring off with your left foor and go into a roll. with the other persons right arm being controlled by your legs, he will be forced to turn over.

you two should now be perpendicular on the floor. you on the bottom, on your back, and him on his back across your body. IMMEDIATELY, hold his right arm (the one still by your feet with your left leg (just cross your left leg over his right arm. it should be good enough) and while you are doing this, hold his left arm against your chest with your left and hug it so he can't get it free. put pressure on the elbow with your pelvis (push up).

now for the kicker. this can and most often makes the person pass out and can very well suffocate him. while still in this position, (notice that your right arm and right leg should be free) with your right arm, grab the right shirt collar (this should be the farthest away) and pull it towards you fiercely and with your right leg, bring it up around the outside so that it is not hindering what your right arm is doing, and push your enemy's head into the choke (pulling the shirt collar can be a nasty choke hold if the enemy's throat is pushed into it) by using the bottom of your right thigh and pushing away from you.


follow these steps: if he is the other way around, just reverse the left and right directions

1. hook right leg around his right arm.

2. lock right ankle (or foot) on left kneepit

3 (a) Push down with your pelvis to put pressure on the elbow and see if you can touch the ground with your waist.

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(b) plant your hands on the ground on the oppisite side of him and go into a foreward roll (keeping the arm lock strong)

4. hug his left arm to your chest with your left arm. keep this very strong so it can't be freed. (apply pressure to the elbow with your pelvis if nessesary)

5. from armlock position (on your back now) switch legs holding his right arm by crossing your left leg over his right elbow.

6. with right arm, grab the shirt collar (called the lapel) on the far side of his neck and pull it towards you.

7. bring your right leg up and using the bottom of your thigh, push his head away from you and consequently into the choke.

8. HOLD IT as long as possible.

this can break his arm, and make him pass out.

using step 3 (a), it could break his right arm.

3 (b), the harder one, can break if not severely damage his left arm and make him pass out due to lack of blood and oxygen to the brain.


i hope this lesson in grappling helps you a little. that is my favorite judo move. realize that step 3 (a) looks funny from far away. it looks like you are raping his right arm.

hey whats that fighting stype that jet lee and jackie chan does ???
that oens internesting its a asian fighting style

I think its just regular Kung Fu with a little movie choreography, but it is very cool.

I took tae kwon do for a few years and found it pretty effective when in a fight with faster people like kung fu people or karate, especially if you have a long leg reach.

wu shu kung fu i believe. that is the more flamboyant type that you see in hollywood

yeh i have tried a bit of wu shu, alot of jumping/tumbling and kicks... though wing chung is just as good.

all kung-fu originates from shaolin

styles.karate
kung fu
tae kwon do
kenpo
aikido
hop-kido
judo
jujitsu
capoeira (Brazillian)
muay thai
kajunbo (a combo style of karate, judo, kenpo, and boxing)

(i am adding some to the list)

Ninjitsu (aka ninja)
gee wai shu (bit like aikido)


i suggest you don't take up karate though, a kung-fu style or hitting style would be best, karate uses alot of power but if you're opponent has any skill you are finished.

most all martial arts disciplines are dangerous if you know what you're doing. especially if it's vs someone who doesn't know what they're doing. but in my opinion, by far the most effective stle is jiu-jitsu. specifically Gracie jiu-jitsu. it combines the traditional locks, throws and grappling with updated strikes (punches, kicks, etc). although not limited to, it proved very effective in the Ultimate Fighting Championship and other such no-holds barred, mixed martial arts tournaments. i have been a fan and student for years and the knowledge of chokes, throws, grabs, locks, etc is invaluable. as someone earlier posted, most fights end up on the ground. that's true. the odds of ending a real fight with a haymaker are very limited. and that is where your skills will begin to show. patience is a valuable ally in a fight. many times, with the strategic placement of your limbs, just staying out of the other guy's grasp, you can make him wear himself out, while you wait for the right moment to break his arms off.

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One thing that makes me believe in UFOs is, sometimes I lose stuff.

ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

I think I'm a little late...

I have been a dedicated martial artist since I was 5. Let me clarify some things.

Kung Fu and Wu Shu are both just terms to describe any martial art that originated in China. Kung Fu is generaly thought of as an older term relating to actual combat, whereas Wu Shu is generaly thought of as a sport. Kung Fu DID NOT come from Shao Lin because Shao Lin is Kung Fu... Similarly, Wing Chun is not better than Kung Fu because it is Kung Fu. Think about it like food:

Speghetti is NOT better than Italian food BECAUSE speghetti IS Italian food.

Kajunbo?????? Ohhhhh.... Kajukenbo!

hmmm, what else?

Ninjitsu is not also known as Ninja.
The literal translation is

Nin - Silent
jitsu - Art

A Ninja is a noun representing one who practices Ninjitsu. Is medicine also known as doctor??

I just realized that I probably sound like a dick, but martial arts is somthing I have devoted most of my life to, hence I feel very strongly about the subject. I am just trying to weed out the misinformation.

FYI I have studied TKD, JKD, Gracie Jui-Jitsu, Ninjitsu, Aikido, Judo, Muay Thai, Boxing, Kempo, Kendo, Capoeira, Shaolin (Long Fist; Dragon Style; Mantis Style; Tiger Style; Monkey Style; Snake Style), Wing Chun, Jiu-Quan (Drunken Style), Tai Chi Chuan (and Dim Mak), Bujinkan, Budo Tai Jitsu, Sambo, and Philipino Weapons

my weapon styles have been:

Katana (Kendo)
Ninja-to (Ninjitsu)
Manriki Chain (Ninjitsu/Bujinkan)
Bo Staff
Jo Staff
Escrima (Philipino)
Hook Swords (Shao Lin)
Nunchuka
Ropes/Cords (Ninjitsu/Bujinkan)
Tai Chi Sword (Tai Chi Chuan)
Chinese Broadsword (Tai Chi Chuan)
Rapier (Fencing)


Just to give you an idea of where I'm coming from

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gee LON1.

it sounds like you 'almost' may be able to give me a run for my money. lol.

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...ever since, I've been The Champ.

any questions?

I believe that the only purpose of learning is developing the ability to teach. I would love to answer any more questions or clarify any of my previous points.

Damn Lon I feel a bit undertrained now. Sure I spend 27 hours a week training, but you definitely seem to have me beat. I've been in taekwondo for 5 years now. I started when I 11. I've been teaching the first two children's belts for 2 years. I've had my instructors' stripe since October. I have been in Kali for 2 years.

Taekwondo translates into "the way of the hand and the foot" It's a Korean form of martial arts. It is most effective to use if you have a lot of lower body strength. It's great for short people. I've done bit and pieces of other styles. I just started Shotakan this fall. The main thing I've notices is that in many styles us short people are screwed. That's why I love Taekwondo so much. My height is an advantage.

Kali is a little known Polynesian knife fighting style. My instructor is a navy seal who studied it while doing some stuff over there that he can't tell me.

The stuff you see in movies is crap...in almost every Tom Cruise move he manages to do this unrealistic jump kick and then fall on his face when even a junior belt could land. It annoys me to no end.

I would always suggest taekwondo...but that's just my personal bias


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there is a kung fu teacher around where i live. his kids just won a nation competition. he teaches traditional weapons, styles, and other stuff. he also might have a class for the handicapped. im gonna see if he would train my gimpy ass.

he also teaches the combative use of the chair, hoe, and other things you don't generally see in a fight.

Kaliadele,

Doesn't Kali teach the Balisong? That's one hell of a weapon! I have so many scars on my knuckles from playing with that crazy knife...

Hero,

Look into Tai Chi Chuan (probably Yang family style) and a teacher who knows Chi Gong, which is similar to your root experience in school. Physical limitation does not necessarily mean limitation in combat. In fact, the first Shao Lin Disciple (which is basically second in command) had only one arm... He severed his other to display is dedication and respect for his master; which is why the Shao Lin temple bows with one hand (or so the story goes...).

Balisongs are just plain fun. i love the Kriss style the most. They do take a while to get the hang of though. I always buy two of a knife when i first get them....grind one of then dull and practice with that until i feel conident to move on to the real thing. It keeps my skin "silky smooth" :�

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i dislike people

ok real quick cuz i hate martial art and religion debates. kali does teach the balisong. you dont need to buy 2 of a knife one for pratice and another for adavanced all you do is cover the blade thick tape. problem solved. and about the main topic. Martial art styles. Ok there is only one martial art and its been around for thousands of years. its called Human style. we are all human right! A human kick is a human kick it doesnt matter the style the kick is a kick a punch is a punch etc.. so on and so on. this style is this this style is that is BULLSHIT. i punch kick grab and use everything as a weapon. I do not do "A Style". Fighting is fighting. Styles are just ways of expressing the human body and we all want to be a kung fu in something from computers to martial arts to painting etc.. Until humans evolve into 3 arms and 2 heads there is just human fighting. hope this answers everyones question. What i just wrote is not all original Bruce Lee said some of this in an interview showing how ahead of his time he was. It is still relevant to this day some years later. dont learn a style learn fighting. cant find someone to teach you teach yourself. you dont need them they just use your money. the only thing they are good for is practice. To circumvent this problem get friends together and fight to the bloody end. later people. If you think im stupid and dont make sense SO WHAT? i dont give a fuck. Enlightenment is just around the corner but takes years to reach.

the guy teaches the Jow Ga system which utilizes the Northern and Southern Styles of Hung Gar, Choy Gar, and Bak Sil Lum

this site has a few good guides and links, i forget the exact url though
http://www.combatjujitsu.co.uk

i studyed tae kwon do for a wile but i would really like to go into ninjitsu . . but i don't know anyone who teaches it. . one of my dads friends was a ""ninja"" and he also made his own swords and was a great shot with a crossbow . . i know how to use nunchuks but thats the only wepon i can really use i tryed to use those little sword things with the prongs on both sides. . ya know . . but i don't have anybody to teach me . .

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more people should give props to shaolin.
'nuff said

Being a very lazy student of Isshinryu (which I like very much) I find that the most effective things are the simple things. Don't get complicated don't get fancy get effective. Learn all the vital areas (atemi a japanese form that I'm not studying) and go from there. The groin throat solar plexus knees eyes and all sorts of spots are vulnerable to all sorts of strikes no matter what you study. I used to fight with my friends all the time for fun. I learned a lot about myself, I'm more of a mental fighter when I get into a serious slugging match or something else where it comes down to who's stronger I get whupped everytime. Do some research on a style that seems to fit who you are and run w/ it. I fell into Isshinryu by chance (lucky for me) and have decided I like it a lot. Not everything in it is for me but not everything in life is for me either. If I'd get off my ass and practice I'd be a lot better. Also my good friend and I built practice swords and pipe insulation and socks and lots of duct tape. They hurt like fuck but so does life. The main thing is learning not to be afraid of getting hit. (Still not there.) Think for yourself, fight like you own the earth, and be true to yourself. (And own a five foot tall bong that you've built yourself.)

To answer this question:

There are only so many ways to hit, kick, punch, and wrestle with another human being. Until we grow a third arm, this isn't likely to change any time soon!

In other words, "styles" of fighting do not exist!!! When a karate guy throws a kick, it often looks like a Tae Kwon Do guy's kick! Because it's just a fucking kick! It doesn't matter what "style" it comes from, or what area of the world it comes from--a kick is just a kick, a punch is just a punch. Don't get all bent out of shape regarding STYLE!

If you really want to learn to fight, put the gloves on and go at it. Allow takedowns as well. Then you'll begin to see what REALLY works and what doesn't! You'll be VERY surprised!

The ONLY way to learn to fight for real, is to FIGHT! Put equipment on (headgear, gloves, groin cup) and go at it. You don't need to immerse yourself in years of martial arts. That's just bullshit someone sells you to make a buck!

Good training to all!

John (Triad JKD Association)

I applaud twistedup's post.

My friend at a local store teaches brazilian street fighting. He says it's quite effective as he kicked a 2x4 to bits