I have a stupid question. I've got a whole bunch of psuedoephed 120 mg. Now in all the searching ive done ive never seen referrence to the cleaning of 120 mg psuedo. Does it just not exsist where these people live or is it just not good to use. The highest dossage ive heard of on the net is 60 mg. as i said its a stupid question but i would rather make sure before i waste a lot of time. thanx

nobody really uses them because most 120mgs are time released and that sucks ass. It makes it really hard. by the way, there are higher amounts psuedo in pills than 120mg (at least in some areas) but those suck just as bad.

So does that mean i should throw all this away? or can i somehow salvage it.

SWIM has messed with time release its not that fun but possible. Just take ones time and be a little more indepth in your extraction perhaps. SWIM was sure to remove all of the plastic like coating that was on his time release pills. These really are better off being avoided though but if one already has em why let em go to waste less you need really perfect base stock.

would the extraction on chem head be sufficient to remove all that shit?

no

Well....Damn!!!
sorry, didn't mean to shout.

what about using it in the making of cat. or is that also a lost cause. i hate to throw them away.

All you half to do is grind them up and your good to go

no. thats not true. you can grind them up but they still have all the different time release junk in it. that wont do you any good. It takes some work to do a good extract on those kinds of pills.

well im willing to do what i have to since i already have them. i have 120 of them.

If you grind them up fine
all of the chemical is taken up in your system and the time release is just a way to
release small amounts acording to the way you digest the pill

nobody is grinding up these pills to take them retard. we're talking about doing an a/b extraction on them. which is close to impossible it seems with any type of time release. why the hell would we want to take a bunch of psuedoephedrine pills? you dont get high off it. we need the active out of the pills. do you understand now??

Sorry I misunderstood...

In that case
you could try liquid heat

sorry about callin you a retard, that wasnt very nice. I was in a bad mood when i wrote that.

by the way what do you mean "liquid heat"?

No problem i was being a total retard when i wrote that i was thinking he was take them for some reason and there are several presciption drugs with time release that will fuck you up if it weren't for the time release and the easy way to by pass this was to grind them up. Sorry.

Liquid Heat you can get in most grocerey stores i am pretty sure i forget what it is used for, but i knew a crew of people that used in extractions for making meth. It extracts the ephedrine from cold pills and i beleive the product floats on top i really for get the whole process Sorry
But my other friend said it should work the same i dunno i pretty much stay away from the meth. I've seen to many people with bad experiances Plus it makes me break out.

But i will be sure to post again if this is still up
I am sure i can find the process in a day or two.

oh i see, dont bother posting it. we all know how to do that. its just a simple extract with methanol.

No time release ephedrine is a waste by all angles. I saw something on the hive about a sucessfull attempt once but it seemed to be pretty tricky not to mention there aren't any other people really saying it works.

Time release shit has all sorts of cellulose analogue binders in them that are soluble in anything and nothing and form gels in anything at all temperatures. You will get a huge fucking mess and your yeild will be pretty sucky.

IMHO save them for cold season, unless you have hundreds, then get a few liters of acetone, toluene, methanol, a bunch of other stuff and labour away.

Good luck

you wouldn't by chance know what i would look under to find this laborous proceedure would you?

Can't find it, but one thing tha twill not work is a direct water extraction, you will have a huge mess. BTW what are the inactives listed for these particular pills?

to late they got thrown away. oh well.i'll think next time before i buy.

to answer this question again.... no they are not good to use. its just to hard to do to make it worth your while. which is why people that I have talked to said that it is much better to find plain, white, 60mg pills with very few binders. they are are out there for cheap, but you gotta find 'em.

Ahem, is everybody forgetting steam distillation of freebase?

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Originally posted by madchemist:
Ahem, is everybody forgetting steam distillation of freebase?

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Where would one begin to look for the information on the process of this?

i was just floating around and stumbled into this post and i simply dont understand why you cant just disolve them in a solution the ph of stomach acids, wait the time it says it will stay in your system for on the pack and then neutralise it and clean up from there?? no good?? sorry i admit i dont know much about chemistry past grade eleven chem101... but id at least like it explained to me why this would not work...

yeah good idea, i got a few gallons of stomach acid around here somewhere..... lets see where did i leave that darn stomach acid....j/k

if you want to steam distill the junk out, the get your goods in freebase form, put it in your flask, set up your steam distillation equipment, go from there. im sure you can figure it out,

I'm not 100% on this, but isn't that the shit they use in those beesting-allergy shots? In usable form (I think)?

why dont you just find some pharm grade E?

DUDE SEND AN E-NAIK TO ME MAYBE I CAN HELP YOU FIND THE ANSWERS YOU SEEK

So you post in every topic on the board that you are selling pharm grade E? Either your a retard or your a cop, and everyone else will think the same thing as i do.

He man do you sell pharm grade cocaine too.

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Originally posted by BikerBillP2P:
DUDE SEND AN E-NAIK TO ME MAYBE I CAN HELP YOU FIND THE ANSWERS YOU SEEK

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Dude what the fuck is a E-NAIK? Will you offer me personal assistance if I call you at your office special agent bikerbill?

Liquid Heat you can get in most grocerey stores i am pretty sure i forget what it is used for, but i knew a crew of people that used in extractions for making meth. It extracts the ephedrine from cold pills and i beleive the product floats on top -------------------------------------------- are u sure it was liquid heat? And not liquid fire. Liquid fire is concentrated sulfuric acid. Never heard of it being used 4 this though. But i never heard of psuedo floating ontop of heat either.