Hey, I need to know how to make speed.
I just need some help from the experts here.
Thanks.
Gold Knight

Here we go again, anybody else wanna handle this one, and he has more than 3 posts to his name wtf?

http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/speedy_drugs/speed1.html

I already read that, I was wonder the other ways to make speed, I know the is a different way to make it will the NO-Drowz pills that truckers take. I just want to know the other ways, and easier ways.

Birch

There are several different opinions as to how the reaction should be done. Some people add the Li to the NH3 first, in order to ensure blueness. Some add the pseudo and Li alternately, and some just chuck the whole mess in together. I dont really know WHAT the RIGHT way is, all I know is what seems right to me.

Dissolve the pseudo in anhydrous isopropanol . I recommend about 6ml per gram. Place it in a container as close to the volume you have as possible. Try to avoid air space as it will encourage condensation. This amount of iso will not completely dissolve it, but will make kind of a slush. Place this in the freezer a few hours before your reaction is to start.

If you already have anhydrous ammonia, then peel your batteries. This can be easily done by cutting just through the metal casing in a spiral pattern, grabbing the end of the metal with needlenose pliers, and unwrapping. This leaves you with a paper wrapped cylinder. You now need 2 containers filled with naptha. The first container should be wide and flat enough that you can get both hands in (your not actually going to PUT your hands in there, Tasty). the second is your Li storage container. For the second container it is helpful to have something to keep the Li below the surface (it floats). A smaller plastic lid will work, but be sure to test it in the naptha before using to make sure it won't melt.

Take the paper cylinder and submerge it in the large container of naptha. Now take an exacto knife and CAREFULLY slit the paper open. Try not to go past the paper layer with the blade as it will short the Li strip. Once the paper is slit, peel it off. This will expose the inner strips and carbon. Now unroll the whole mess quickly under the naptha. Once this part is saturated with naptha it can no longer short out. Take the grey Li strip, being careful not to rip it, and put it into the second container. Leave the carbon crap in the first container till you are done. Prepare as many batteries as necessary at this time.

IF YOU ARE CONDENSING YOUR AMMONIA, do not unwrap the paper until you have finished condensing, just strip the metal casing.

Now for the fun part....
If you have a tank, place it in a container of ice. After the tank is chilled, add rock salt to the ice. This will drop it another few degrees.
Place your reaction vessel in ice and add an equal volume of cacl2 to the ice (this can be purchased by the gallon as concrete accellerant). The ice will start to melt quite rapidly, but this will give you the low temp necessary to hold the ammonia. Fill the reaction vessel with 250 ml of ammonia, plus another 100 ml for each ounce of pseudo.

Now add the pseudo to the ammonia. Leave it in the ice and stir vigorously.

WARNING: THE ADDED HEAT FROM THE PSEUDO / IPA WILL CAUSE THE AMMONIA TO BOIL, ADD SLOWLY.

Once the pseudo is in, and the temp has equalized (ammonia not boiling off) take your first Li strip, rip off about 1/5th of the strip and quickly pat it dry on a paper towel. Tear it into 2 or 3 pieces (small) and toss into the reaction vessel. Mix well.

WARNING: ONCE THE LI IS EXPOSED TO AIR IT WILL BEGIN TO REACT. THE PIECES WILL HEAT UP SLOWLY AT FIRST, BUT AT AN EXPONENTIAL RATE. THEY CAN BECOME HOT ENOUGH TO IGNITE YOU, YOUR FURNITURE, OR ANY AVAILABLE WATER DROPLETS.

When the pieces are almost completely dissolved (15-20 seconds) repeat the process. As you near the end of your Li, the pieces will take longer to dissolve, but keep adding at a steady rate of 1 piece every 30-45 seconds.

When all the Li has been added, and the temp has equalized, remove the reaction vessel from the ice bath. Place a lid on it with a tube going to the bottom of a five gallon bucket with about 1 1/2-2 gallons of water inside. to this water add 1/5th gallon of muriatic acid.

Do not submerge the hose until the vessel is OUT of the ice. If you do, the cooling from the ice may cause the acid water to suck back. This will initiate a rather unpleasant sequence of events.

Keep mixing the container for the next 15-20 minutes. Then you may place a heater in front of it to drive off the ammonia. Do not heat TOO rapidly, for reasons which should be obvious.

If and when your water bucket starts to smell of ammonia, add hcl till the smell goes away, then add more. You cant have TOO much HCL.

When most of the ammonia is gone (30-45 minutes) then carefully remove the top of the rxn vessel. Dont be a dumbass at this point and "sniff" the container. If there is still excess ammonia, it will be no secret.

Pour in 100ml water per ounce of product, then your favorite NP. Toluene is fine here. Ether is not recommended.

Now add NaOH in 1/4 teaspoon increments, mixing well each addition, until no more bubbles evolve. the bubbles are from NH3 evolving from the water layer.

Separate the NP and rinse with 2 small volumes of NaOH solution (PH 13), then with a small volume of distilled water.

Dry the NP with baked epsoms, let the epsoms settle, then decant into a clean container. filter the bottom portion of the NP to catch any stray salt.

Gas, filter, recrystalize, and enjoy.

This is taken from The complete Birch by Mister_Clean. Also You can substitute anhydrous methylamine for ammonium. Have fun and dont kill yourself.

DUDE, thanks.

Oh and just so you know Birch reductions are notoriously SMELLY for lack of a better word... These are the reactions you hear people performing off in the middle of no where so people dont smell ammonia and report a meth lab.

birch is not easier than an HI reduction. and its smellier too. but it is another way. have fun getting anhydrous ammonia.

in my situation birch is easier that HI (basically because i HATE(hate is not harsh enough to describe it) extracting iodine from tinctures, and scraping matchbooks. i also got access to anhydrous ammonium and methylamine, the only problem is the smell in an inner city locationn. Btw if you ran a hose from the reaction vessel into activated charcoal then into water would that get rid of most of the smell???

Another idea on that I had wich Im not sure on is how would an Ozone generator do at eliminateing the smell...? Ozone is O3 if u didnt know that....

Well the easiest way to rid yourself of the ammonia smell would be to run your vent hose through muriatic acid(forget the charcoal, and ozone??) you will end up w/ a solution of ammonium chloride which can be used to make more ammonia, plus no smell. Just be sure to use a large container and calculate an excess of muriatic, k.

There are so many other ways other than HI or birch. Read up and do many searches.