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| Weapons and Combat This is the forum dedicated to weapons, martial arts, and their related technical, political and social issues. Weapons and Combat is for the safe and responsible use of firearms, knives, fists and other weapons. This forum is about real weapons - Threads about paintball, airsoft, and other sport related combat may posted in Go Team. |
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#1
 2002-09-11, 22:45
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Global Dominator 
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Please God, let this be true.
I got this in an e-mail today, could one of you Aussies please check it out and let me know if its true?
MELBOURNE, Australia Gun-toting granny Ava Estelle, 81, was so ticked-off when two thugs raped her 18-year-old granddaughter that she tracked the unsuspecting ex-cons down - - and shot off their testicles. The old lady spent a week hunting those men down -- and when she found them, she took revenge on them in her own special way, said Melbourne police investigator Evan Delp. Then she took a taxi to the nearest police station, laid the gun on the sergeant's desk and told him as calm as could be �Those bastards will never rape anybody again, by God.� Cops say convicted rapist and robber Davis Furth, 33, lost both his penis and his testicles when outraged Ava opened fire with a 9-mm pistol in the hotel room where he and former prison cellmate Stanley Thomas, 29, were holed up.
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#2
 2002-09-11, 22:48
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Global Dominator 
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
Locking up piece of crap.
The wrinkled avenger also blew Thomas' testicles to kingdom come, but doctors managed to save his mangled penis, police said. The one guy, Thomas, didn't lose his manhood, but the doctor I talked to said he won't be using it the way he used to, Detective Delp told reporters. Both men are still in pretty bad shape, but I think they're just happy to be alive after what they've been through. The Rambo Granny swung into action August 21 after her granddaughter Debbie was carjacked and raped in broad daylight by two knife-wielding creeps in a section of town bordering on skid row. "When I saw the look on my Debbie's face that night in the hospital, I decided I was going to go out and get those bastards myself 'cause I figured the Law would go easy on them," recalled the retired library worker. "And I wasn't scared of them either because I've got me a gun and I've been shootin' all my life. And I wasn't dumb enough to turn it in when the law changed about owning one."
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#3
 2002-09-11, 22:50
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
Beyond being just a piece of shit.
So, using a police artist's sketch of the suspects and Debbie's description of the sickos', tough-as-nails Ava spent seven days prowling the wino-infested neighborhood where the crime took place till she spotted the ill-fated rapists entering their flophouse hotel. I know it was them the minute I saw 'em, but I shot a picture of 'em anyway and took it back to Debbie and she said sure as hell, it was them, the oldster recalled. So I went back to that hotel and found their room and knocked on the door, and the minute the big one, Furth, opened the door, I shot 'em right square between the legs, right where it would really hurt 'em most, you know. Then I went in and shot the other one as he backed up pleading to me to spare him. Then I went down to the police station and turned myself in.
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#4
 2002-09-11, 22:51
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Global Dominator 
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
I know a three year old that can do better.
Now, baffled lawmen are trying to figure out exactly how to deal with the vigilante granny. What she did was wrong, and she broke the law, but it is difficult to throw an 81-year-old woman in prison. Det. Delp said, especially when 3 million people in the city want to nominate her for sainthood and a medal.
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#5
 2002-09-11, 22:54
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Global Dominator 
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
From now on, if its more than one paragraph, I'm just not going to bother posting it, this is just too much work.
I have never had as much trouble with any site anywhere as I have had trying to post something here.
Screw it all to hell.
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#6
 2002-09-12, 07:28
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
I still say they got off easy.
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#7
 2002-09-12, 17:53
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
Dude I didnt read everything, but the lady did a damn good job.
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#8
 2002-09-12, 17:55
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Mack 
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
I just read everything, the old lady did great. But thats no good thing, cause imagine if she got the wrong guys, ouch.
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#9
 2002-09-12, 21:19
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Global Dominator 
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
She did more to make sure she had the right guys than the cops would ever have, I still want to know if this is true. Anybody?
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#10
 2002-09-13, 18:33
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
Outside of the rape of the granddaughter, I hope it's true.
Granny has my vote for sainthood and a medal.
Nox
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#11
 2002-09-13, 18:46
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
quote: Originally posted by Nox: Outside of the rape of the granddaughter, I hope it's true.
Granny has my vote for sainthood and a medal.
Nox
thats a bit paradoxal ain't it?
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#12
 2002-09-14, 00:22
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Nox 
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
Yes.
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#13
 2002-09-14, 17:19
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
quote: laid the gun on the sergeant's desk
Great.. She has to surrender the gun that could have prevented the rape of her grandaughter in the first place.
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#14
 2002-09-14, 22:31
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
Global,
I'd try to post the link to the story, it may give you less grief, though some people would be less inclined go through the extra effort to read it. :O(
Hopefully, the man who still has his schlong is only able to use it to piss. Good job granny.
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#15
 2002-09-17, 01:11
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
JB, I got the story as an e-mail, so there wasn't anything to link to, but that would have been the way to go. I'm still waiting to hear from one of the Aussies if they saw this in a paper down there or not.
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#16
 2002-09-17, 02:25
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
Yowzer!
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#17
 2002-10-27, 19:50
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
I've heard this story before, and yes it apparently is true! If this kind of thing happened to every lousy skinner out there the world would be a better place. But normally these pieces of shit get 3 or 4 years in pc and are out on the street! I say dont give them any time, cut off their cocks and balls and let them go.
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#18
 2002-10-29, 22:38
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
I second that on granny getting a medal and whatnot. If I was that old and had grandchildrend, and this happened to them, I'd drug em, tie them up, and torture them to hell. Then, kill him.
SYNTEX
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#19
 2002-10-31, 14:16
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
it was on snopes.com as untrue i think
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#20
 2002-11-01, 04:43
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
*Grabs at collar*
I would never rape but still.. that gives me chills for my family jewels..
Worse then thinking of pins in the retnas bit...
_____________________ +Oh.. BTW.. Sainthood.. Dam good job...
[This message has been edited by C4era (edited 11-01-2002).]
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#21
 2002-11-15, 01:26
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Re: Please God, let this be true.
Sorry it is false, as stated by a very relible site http://www.snopes2.com This site was shown after the 911 attacks on cnn to clear up any rumers.
Exerpt for Snopes2 "Claim: A gun-toting Australian granny blew the testicles off the two men who raped her granddaughter. Status: False.
Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2000]
MELBOURNE, Australia Gun-toting granny Ava Estelle, 81, was so ticked-off when two thugs raped her 18-year-old granddaughter that she tracked the unsuspecting ex-cons down -- and shot their testicles off!
"The old lady spent a week hunting those bums down -- and when she found them, she took revenge on them in her own special way," said admiring Melbourne police investigator Evan Delp.
"Then she took a taxi to the nearest police station, laid the gun on the sergeant's desk and told him as calm as could be: 'Those bastards will never rape anybody again, by God.'"
Cops say convicted rapist and robber Davis Furth, 33, lost both his penis and his testicles when outraged Ava opened fire with a 9-mm pistol in the seedy hotel room where he and former prison cellmate Stanley Thomas, 29, were holed up.
The wrinkled avenger also blew Thomas' testicles to kingdom come, but doctors managed to save his mangled penis, police said.
"The one guy, Thomas, didn't lose his manhood, but the doctor I talked to said he won't be using it the way he used to," Detective Delp told reporters. "Both men are still in pretty bad shape, but I think they're just happy to be alive after what they've been through."
The Rambo Granny swung into action August 21 after her granddaughter Debbie was carjacked and raped by two knife-wielding creeps in a section of town bordering on skid row.
"When I saw the look on my Debbie's face that night in the hospital, I decided I was going to go out and get those bastards myself 'cause I figured the police would go easy on them," recalled the retired library worker. "And I wasn't scared of them, either -- because I've got me a gun and I've been shootin' it all my life."
So, using a police artist's sketch of the suspects and Debbie's description of the sickos' car, tough-as-nails Ava spent seven days prowling the wino-infested neighborhood where the crime took place till she spotted the ill-fated rapists entering their flophouse hotel.
"I knew it was them the minute I saw 'em, but I shot a picture of 'em anyway and took it back to Debbie and she said sure as hell, it was them," the ornery oldster recalled.
"So I went back to that hotel and found their room and knocked on the door -- and the minute the big one, Furth, opened the door, I shot 'em, got right square between the legs, right where it would really hurt 'em most, you know. Then I went down to the police station and turned myself in."
Now, baffled lawmen are tying to figure out how to deal with the vigilante granny. "What she did was wrong, but you can't really throw an 81-year-old woman in prison." Det. Delp said, "especially when all 3 million people in the city want to nominate her for sainthood."
Origins: Sorry, but this February 2000 e-mail is a fanciful tale of imagined revenge and nothing more -- searches of Australian news archives fail to turn up news stories featuring any of the people named in the account, reports about the shootings of the rapists, or the rape that supposedly sparked the retribution. Those living in the area also fail to recall seeing anything about this on the nightly news.
Moreover, in March 2000, an Australian newspaper referred to the already Internet-speeded story as "a good urban myth."
Regrettably, Grambo exists only in our hearts and inboxes. We cherish her anyway.
But really, could anyone honestly swallow a tale of vigilante justice in which the police spokesman is characterized as "admiring" of someone who turned a firearm on two others? As righteous as a cause might be, the moment a crime victim or one of her sympathizers takes matters into her own hands, that person becomes a criminal engaged in illegal activity. Police would not be "baffled" about what to do with such a person -- an arrest would be made and charges laid.
Those familiar with Australian forms of speech have pointed out no one from that country would refer to another as a bum (as the supposed police investigator did when he said "...hunting those bums down"). A "bum" Down Under is the body part one sits upon -- in that dialect, the term does not enjoy the diversity of meaning it does in North American slang.
Moreover, the various phrasings attributed to Ava Estelle would never drop from the lips of an Australian (unless she'd spent her life chained to a rock in the Ozarks).
Okay, so we can't believe the story. We still want to, though.
Fake or real, Grambo is perceived as a hero. In a world populated by bad guys seemingly always getting away with one horrible act after another, we need to believe that at least someone somewhere stood up to the wrongs, took matters into her own hands, and dealt out some much-needed justice, even if it was of the street variety. Popular culture is filled with instances of the wronged being denied protection by the authorities and having to right the world on their own because that theme plays into both what we hold as true deep in our hearts (criminals escape justice through legal loopholes) and what we wish for (justice being meted out to these miscreants anyway).
It's no accident that this work of fiction features two adult male rapists (which one immediately pictures as strong, overpowering creeps), a teenage girl victim, and a frail little old lady of 81 years (a retired library worker, at that). The contrast makes for a more thrilling tale, and the cheers over David toppling Goliath become louder and more enthusiastic.
Barbara "castigation by castration" Mikkelson
Last updated: 22 May 2002 "
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