About
Community
Bad Ideas
Drugs
Ego
Erotica
Fringe
Society
Technology
register | bbs | search | rss | faq | about
meet up | add to del.icio.us | digg it
Go Back   Community > Technology > DIY
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

DIY Do It Yourself! Advice on how to make beer, plant a garden, use power tools, record music, and build things yourself.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 #1 
Old 2003-01-06, 01:37
clickergod clickergod is offline
Regular
 
Default cheap power

i have an idea and just wanted someone elses thoughts on it to see if its even worth making it

the idea

to take
1) power inverter 12 volt to 120volt
2) a weed eater motor (runs forever on little gas)
3) and a car alterantor

the idea is to anker the alternator where all that turns in the coil inside it then hook the motor to the alternator so it turns in the correct durection so it makes the proper 12 to 18 volts hook the invertor to the alternator so the 12 volts is inverted to 120 volts

would this work
 #2 
Old 2003-01-06, 01:40
pyrus pyrus is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: cheap power

congradulations you just made a fucked up generator
 #3 
Old 2003-01-06, 01:45
clickergod clickergod is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: cheap power

yes a fucked up genorator that uses less gas then a normal genorator you buy at the store

[This message has been edited by clickergod (edited 01-06-2003).]
 #4 
Old 2003-01-06, 02:00
rlpinca rlpinca is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: cheap power

Inverters are fairly inefficient.
Alternators are fairly inefficient.

You'd have a generator that was really inefficient and would only put out a small amount of power. Most alternators put out under 100 amps and wear out really quick when they are forced to do it constantly.

It would work, but not as well as a real generator. It would use less gas than a regular generator, but you would have a fraction of the power.
 #5 
Old 2003-01-06, 02:37
bangbangbooty bangbangbooty is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: cheap power

Generators have current regulators so when they are subject to current load then the load is removed thier output voltage remains as constant as possible.

With your setup the inverter input voltage would change because your motor speed would be constant and not be relative to the load applied to the inverter output.

Fluctuating inverter input would possible shut it down or blow it completley.

I would suggest using a car battery inline before the inverter to keep things constant.

But yes it would be inefficent and the cost of the petrol would probably be higher than just running the item off mains power.

It cost me an average of $2 per day to run my house. It would cost more than that in petrol to run the motor for 24 hours and the motor would not power everything in my house.

[This message has been edited by bangbangbooty (edited 01-06-2003).]
 #6 
Old 2003-01-06, 06:44
clickergod clickergod is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: cheap power

i actually rethought this idea with a dry cell battery instead of an acid battery and on another page i found a small kit to alter the motor to run off of natural gas
 #7 
Old 2003-01-06, 14:34
rlpinca rlpinca is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: cheap power

COuld you post a link to that site? I'm interested to know how you'd make a 2 cycle engine run off of natural gas. How would you make it so that the engine still got oil?
 #8 
Old 2003-01-13, 07:06
gun-nut gun-nut is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: cheap power

physics lesson:

power = voltage x current

P = VI

if you start with 120W
with 12 v

P = VI
120W = 12V x 10A

you convert your 12V to 120V

P=VI

120W = 120V x 1A

NOTE: you stepped up the voltage but
the current decreases
the overall power is same...

not mentioning power loss due to heat
and other thingys...
 
To the best of our knowledge, the text on this page may be freely reproduced and distributed.
 

totse.com certificate signatures
 
 
About | Community | Bad Ideas | Drugs | Ego | Erotica | Fringe | Society | Technology
Hot Topics