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| DIY Do It Yourself! Advice on how to make beer, plant a garden, use power tools, record music, and build things yourself. |
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#1
 2002-10-29, 02:01
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k devil 
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how to build a silencer
could some one tell me how to bulid a silencer for a 22. I'v got acess to a lathe and other tools
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#2
 2002-10-29, 03:18
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Dion 
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Re: how to build a silencer
I believe there's some instructions in the anarchist cookbook...lol 
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#3
 2002-10-29, 03:40
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Lord_Mixtur 
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Re: how to build a silencer
Dion, The stuff in the Anarchist Cookbook is technically unfeasible. You could not work any of the devices contained therein. Don't even try. An experienced pyro like myself can tell the Anarchist Cookbook is a crock...
Preps suck...
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#4
 2002-10-29, 17:12
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buttthrax 
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Re: how to build a silencer
Yes, you can build silencer's. Yes, it's a crime. Yes, it is hard and i dont know how.
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#5
 2002-10-30, 06:07
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Dion 
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Re: how to build a silencer
quote: Dion, The stuff in the Anarchist Cookbook is technically unfeasible. You could not work any of the devices contained therein. Don't even try. An experienced pyro like myself can tell the Anarchist Cookbook is a crock...
Hence the winks. By god do people not have any sense of humour anymore? As for the silencer, try searching Kazaa [or your preferred prog] for free books on this subject. I know there are plenty over the internet, but this way you can get it for free.
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#6
 2002-10-30, 20:00
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k devil 
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Re: how to build a silencer
Thanks for the info
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#7
 2002-10-31, 01:05
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Global Dominator 
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Re: how to build a silencer
Only about a hundred books out there on doing that. I recommend the booklet by Mr. Bill Holmes, easy to read and understand by anyone with at least junior high metal shop experience.
Check out gun shows, but try to stay away from Paladin Press, they will fuck you as soon as look at you.
It is not hard to construct one, they do work, and yes they are illegal.
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#8
 2002-11-01, 23:58
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lamar 
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Re: how to build a silencer
If you want a top of the line suppressor check out the ibm intelectual property network patent number 4588043. These baffels are used on the mp-5 that the usa navy seals use.
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#9
 2002-11-06, 20:46
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MagKnightX 
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Re: how to build a silencer
Don't use IBM, use www.uspto.gov
It's the actual patent office web site.
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#10
 2002-11-10, 01:34
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I Love Poop 
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Re: how to build a silencer
Understanding how a supressor works is a good start.
I believe there is a little information on www.howstuffworks.com that might be useful.
Subsonic .22caliber ammunition would need to be used to seccessfully supress the sound to acceptable limits.
Otherwise you'll still get that supersonic crack.
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#11
 2002-11-19, 16:51
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gbowden 
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Re: how to build a silencer
What do you need a silencer for? Do you need to muffle the sound or make hardly any sound.
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#12
 2002-11-20, 19:22
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Re: how to build a silencer
Riffle or pistol ?
im asumming you are talking about a .22 call riffle or gun but i need more info on what you wish to do and what kind of ammo (eg. .22 long or short)
it all depends on the type of gun and the company that makes it
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#13
 2002-11-20, 20:19
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5150 
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Re: how to build a silencer
hey go to overthrow.com and check out hitman detailed section on it
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#14
 2002-11-26, 09:01
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Re: how to build a silencer
alright guys, whats wrong with using a potato?
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#15
 2002-11-27, 00:21
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midas_the_happy_canadian 
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Re: how to build a silencer
hmm... maybe I'll make a silencer for a musket or maybe a double-barrel shotgun silencer  LOL ----------------  ---------------------
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#16
 2002-11-28, 00:26
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I Love Poop 
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Re: how to build a silencer
quote: Riffle or pistol ?
im asumming you are talking about a .22 call riffle or gun but i need more info on what you wish to do and what kind of ammo (eg. .22 long or short)
it all depends on the type of gun and the company that makes it
Eh? If you told me you want to supress a .22 caliber, regardless of it's .22LR or .22SHORT i'd say, fine doesn't matter just use subsonic ammunition (i think 75grain+ is subsonic when refering to .22cal). I don't see the practical use of supressing a .22caliber rifle or pistol. Espically a rifle. Gimme a supressed 9MM or .45ACP anyday! quote: alright guys, whats wrong with using a potato?
Because that only works in the movies.
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#17
 2002-11-29, 18:10
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Re: how to build a silencer
i happen to agree in this case i do not see the point in supressing a .22 cal rifle or pistol but if you want to go ahead personally i wanna pick up a supresser for the 44 mag i own and maybe one for .50cal that my dad owns ... that would be intresting
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#18
 2002-12-01, 18:39
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I Love Poop 
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Re: how to build a silencer
lol well maybe not...
Although let's say we're talking about a semiautomatic .44mag (in which case you could also shoot .44special through). Then in that case sure supress the gun.
.50AE lol no, makes a nice paper weight though.
Only two pistol calibers i'd suggest in supressing are the 9MM (9X19MM para) and the .45ACP.
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#19
 2002-12-01, 18:41
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Re: how to build a silencer
i suggest picking up a copy of "hit man" printed by paladian press if you can find a copy ... if not then do some research i know in hit man they have a how-to on how to make a silencer
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#20
 2002-12-02, 02:30
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Re: how to build a silencer
i could not aquire the photos sorry but this was taken from the famous book Hit Man published by paladin press before the stoped selling it due to a murder commited with this information
DISPOSABLE SILENCER DIRECTIONS
The directions and photographs that follow show in explicit detail how to construct a silencer for a Ruger 10/22 rifle. The same directions can be followed successfully to construct a silencer for any weapon, with only the size of the drill rod used for alignment changed to fit inside the dimension of the barrel.
The following items should be assembled before you begin:
Drill rod, 7/32 inch (order from a machine shop if not obtained locally) One foot of 1/4 inch brake line from auto parts One quart of fiberglass resin with hardener One foot of 1-1/2 inch (inside diameter) PVC piping and two end caps One yard thin fiberglass mat One roll of masking tape One 1/8 inch drill bit One 3/16 inch drill bit Handful of rubber bands Three or four single inch razor blades One sheet 80 grit sandpaper Six small wood screws One box steel wool Cut a 10-inch section from the brake line. See figure 1. Drill a set of 1/8 inch holes down the length of the tube going in one side and out the other. The holes go all the way through. Notice in the photograph that the holes begin 1-1/2 inches from the end of the tube that fill on the gun.
Next, take a 3/16 inch drill bit and enlarge the holes. See figure 2.
Using masking tape and keeping the tape as free of wrinkles as possible, mask off about six inches of the gun barrel and the end of the barrel. Use only masking tape. Duct tape is too thick and would make for an improper fit. See figure 3.
Then place the drill rod down the barrel to keep the brake tube aligned. This perfect alignment is extremely important.
If the drill rod you purchase is a little too large, as sometimes happens, put it in a drill and using a file and sandpaper (80 grit), turn down the first six inches until it will fit inside the gun barrel. I operate the drill from the floor with my foot, letting the rod spin between my knees as I reduce the size. Check regularly until you achieve a perfect fit. If you grind the rod too small, cut it off and start over. Fit must be tight with no play. See figure 4.
Wrap glass mat around the gun and tube three times. Secure it with string or rubber bands every half inch to keep it tight and in place. The glass should be wrapped about two inches behind the sight and up to the first hold on the tube. See figure 5.
Now mix the resin. About a shot glassful will do. Mix it two or three times hotter than the package directions.
Brace the gun in an upright position and dab the resin into the glass cloth with a stubby brush. Keep dabbling until the cloth is no longer white but has become transparent from absorption of the resin. See figure 6.
As soon as the glass is tacky to touch without sticking (times differs according to weather conditions and humidity), it is time to remove the piece from the barrel. Move fast!
First, take a razor blade and cut a notch behind the sight so the piece can be removed. Then push on the glass to slide it off. Do not pull on the tube. See figure 7.
After removing the gun barrel, peel out the tape and allow it to finish hardening. You must work quickly. If you let the glass harden too much on the gun, you will have to cut it off and begin again.
USe a grinder and 80 grit sandpaper to smooth the hardening rough surface.
NEzt, grind the sides down about halfway, but do not grind past the point where the front of the sight makes contact. See figure 8. Cut it down until the barrel fits easily and snugly.
Stand the glassed inner tube upright in a vise.
Mix a small amount of resin and use an eyedropper to fill in any interior holes or air bubbles until the solid fiberglass is level with the steel tube end. This will give the junction of the steel inner tube and glass coupling added strength. See figure 9.
Clean the eyedropper with acetone.
Cut the PVC tube to desired length. This one is eight inches. See figure 10.
Drill a large hole in the center of one cap, making it large enough to fit on the glass end to the point where the sight makes contact.
Then drill small holes all around the cap at the bottom, as shown, with a 3/16 bit. See figure 11.
Wrap masking tape around the cap to cover the holes. See figure 12.
Stand the cap with the inside tube inserted into a vise. Get the cap level and straight with the tube.
Cut a lot of 1/2 inch square pieces of fiberglass matting and fill the cap with it up past the level of the small holes.
Mix resin and pour it over the cut glass to a point about 1/4 inch above the holes and allow it to dry before removing the cap from the vise. Don't worry about any resin that leaks out around the base hole. Resin fills the small holes, making the tube strong enough to take the blast when you fire the gun.
When the inside is hardened, turn the assembly over and add glass around the backside of the cap for added strength as shown. Avoid getting resin in the opening where the barrel fits. See figure 13.
Place the finished cap and inner tube on one end of the PVC tubing that has already been cut to size. Center the inner tube as you look in the open end of the PVC.
Now drill a 1/8 inch hole in three place around the tube about 1/4 inch from the lip of the cap.
Take the inner tube out and enlarge the holes in the cap to 3/16 inch. See figure 14.
Replace the inner tube and tighten it down with three small wood screws.
Trim the inside tube down until it extends about 1/2 inch beyond the outside PVC tube.
Sharpen one end of the drill rod to a point and use as a punch. Stand the tube up with the solid cap down. Then drop the drill rod down the inner tube to get a true center mark. See figure 15.
Find a drill bit a little larger than the outside diameter of the inner tube. Remove the cap and drill the hole.
Replace the cap on the open end of the PVC and drill three 1/8 inch holes around the cap as before for wood screw.
Grind off any inner tube that sticks out. make it flush with the face of the cap. See figure 16.
Unfold the sections of steel wool and roll between palms to make strands as shown.
Feed the strands into the silencer tube in a circular motion, packing the wool tight with a stick. Do this until the tube is completely full. See figure 17.
Replace the end cap with the three screws. See figure 18.
Paint the finished silencer black and attach it to your weapons. You may want to ensure proper alignment by wrapping tape or placing a hose clamp around the extension behind the sight. See figure 19.
THE FINISHED PRODUCT
Your finished product is whisper-quiet, the way a silencer is supposed to be! It is inexpensive, effective and reusable for over four hundred rounds before you will need to repack.
This little tool is so easy to make that you will feel no pain when you crush it to bits and throw it away.
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#21
 2002-12-02, 14:23
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I Love Poop 
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Re: how to build a silencer
quote: Unfold the sections of steel wool and roll between palms to make strands as shown.
No, steel wool here is being used to in effect muffle the sound. I suppose the little microscope pockets in the wool will provide some area for the escaping gasses to pool. However i don't think it'll be "whisper" quiet or anything close to. This came out of the book "hitman: a technical reference for the independant contractor" eh? http://www.mark23.com/NGNBTD/silencers.html You'll see some supressor tubes exposed with all the internals (baffles) taken out for examination. The baffle type of supressor has now replaced the older type of supressor such as on the MP5 which was a non-serviceable supressor using vortex chambers.
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#22
 2002-12-02, 17:51
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Re: how to build a silencer
thanks for the info Poop
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#23
 2002-12-03, 20:01
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I Love Poop 
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Re: how to build a silencer
Not a problem! Hopefully by march of next year i'll be getting a supressor for either my .45 or 9MM, they both are great shooters i just can't decide on which one i want to supress. Money restrictions will limit me to choosing one of the two.
Regardless i'll get some detailed photos up (for informational use of course) when i get my can.
I've narrowed down my choices to...
CCF Swiss Impulse II supressor (B&T Clone) for my USP 45.
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Probabaly a gemtec supressor (i'm still searching for other 9MM cans) for my SIG P228
Either way i've got to purchase a threaded barrel for either gun so the cost is going to easily meet or exceed $800.00 to $1,000.00 out the door.
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#24
 2002-12-12, 13:28
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Concealed Carrier 
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Re: how to build a silencer
If its a .22 rifle you want to suppress, just buy yourself a brick of Colibri or Super Colibri ammo. Look it up. Its not very powerful, but it sure as hell is quiet. About as noisy as a pellet gun.
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