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Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum.

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Old 2002-12-15, 21:50
Joesmokes911 Joesmokes911 is offline
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i was going to make AP(acetone peroxide) and i have the hydrogen peroxide, the acetone, but for sulfuic acid i know you can get it from a car battery or sometimes in drain opener....but can you get it from D cell bateries or other wet cell batteries other than 12v car???
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Old 2002-12-15, 22:10
Zero the Inestimable Zero the Inestimable is offline
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����No. Single-use sealed cell batteries like AA, C, and D's no not contain useful amounts of any sort of acid. To wit, they're called "alkaline" batteries...

~Zero
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Old 2002-12-15, 22:12
NickSG NickSG is offline
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i dont think you aabsolutly need sulferic acid, i think that any catalyst will work. You dont even need a catalyst, mixing the h2o2 and the acetone together will make AP, but it is a lot slower than with a catylist.
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Old 2002-12-15, 22:21
wolfhound wolfhound is offline
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You can use sulfuric acid from drain cleaner or straight HCl from the hardware store- as was mentioned countless times. Without a catalyst it could take inordinately large amounts of time to form.
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Old 2002-12-15, 22:27
Agent Boris_KGB Agent Boris_KGB is offline
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I have used oxalic and acetic acid to make acetone peroxide before...It took like 2 months to get a tiny amount of crystals but it still worked...
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Old 2002-12-15, 23:06
DeusExMachina DeusExMachina is offline
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you don't need sulfuric acid. You can use HCL or something. Find a good drain opener and read what it has in it. It should have sulfuric acid. Don't get the one with sodium hydroxide.
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Old 2002-12-15, 23:12
EP EP is offline
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For the third time today...
http://krimzonpyro.com/ep/projectsdevicesdir/hechems.html

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Old 2002-12-16, 01:47
Genital-Warfare Genital-Warfare is offline
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I just was at home depot and found some toilet bowl opener, with HCL. Any minreal acid will work for AP.

CTR
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Old 2002-12-16, 01:53
BigPapa21 BigPapa21 is offline
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Toilet bowl cleaner is usually only about 14% HCl. Look for Muriatic acid, also known as brick cleaner, it's about the strongest HCl you can buy and it's pure. Most hardware stores carry it.
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Old 2002-12-16, 03:50
DavidThePyro DavidThePyro is offline
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That pretty much covers it. I should note that battery acid is only ~40%, so you should add ~2.3x as much, and battery acid contains trace lead impurities.
 
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