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Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum.

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Old 2002-11-02, 17:19
Tony_man88 Tony_man88 is offline
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What can u use instead of sulfur in Black powder that has a similar effect. I just can�t get my hands on some sulfur. And is there something cool i can do with potassium permanganate?
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Old 2002-11-02, 17:57
lifezucks lifezucks is offline
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BLack powder Kewl.
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Old 2002-11-02, 18:10
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http://www.roguesci.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000391
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Old 2002-11-02, 19:04
NickSG NickSG is offline
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sugar works good.
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Old 2002-11-02, 19:48
Zero the Inestimable Zero the Inestimable is offline
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Sugar can replace both the charcoal and sulfur, but is generally unsuitable for replacing just one or the other.

As noted, you certainly can make black powder without the sulfur altogether. Reports indicate that this will result in a faster burning but less energetic product.

~Zero
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Old 2002-11-02, 20:57
Tony_man88 Tony_man88 is offline
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quote:
Originally posted by NickSG:
sugar works good.


lol! No, no. that is very wrong salpetre and sugar is a composition for smokebombs.it burns way to slow for use of any firecracker.
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Old 2002-11-02, 22:28
Zero the Inestimable Zero the Inestimable is offline
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Grind it into a fine enough powder and you can use it in thick walled salutes and such. It has performance a hair below match heads, usually.

~Zero
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Old 2002-11-02, 23:28
NickSG NickSG is offline
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hell no! i made some sugar/kno3/charcoal powder, and I lit it in the open, and it burned pretty fast, just under real bp.
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Old 2002-11-03, 01:07
Zero the Inestimable Zero the Inestimable is offline
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How much sugar did you use? With any substantial amount you'd have an oxidizer deficiency and your end product would suck.

~Zero
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Old 2002-11-03, 13:16
Agent Boris_KGB Agent Boris_KGB is offline
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When I was really cheap back in the day I would make 80/20 Kno3 C6H12O6 mix and put them in bottles and duct tape the entire thing with 2 rolls of duct tape and have a really cheap ass M-320....It dosnt work good though because it really dosnt burn fast enough so it will end up burning half of the mix and then exploding...So half the mix wont even burn....
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Old 2002-11-03, 17:10
NickSG NickSG is offline
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I used about 10 percent sugar, 20 percent charcoal, and 70 percent kno3. It didnt burn as fast as i said in my last post, but it can burn like 2 inches in 1 second.
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Old 2002-11-03, 22:56
Zero the Inestimable Zero the Inestimable is offline
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That's a more reasonable ratio. I can see how that would work.

~Zero
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Old 2002-11-04, 02:24
NickSG NickSG is offline
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Yeah, you need a lot of oxidizer when using kno3, except when using magnesium dust, but it does help.
 
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