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Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum.

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Old 2002-10-26, 20:15
TheSell0ut TheSell0ut is offline
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Default powder...from a .270 bullet

Ahh, I'm not very intelligent when it comes to bullets and guns, but I've got a few .270 Winchester shells that I'd like to get powder out of.
So any ideas as to the safest way of getting the powder out? I've extracted powder from .22 bullets by using two sets of wire-plyers and bending the lead out. Not sure if this is a good way or bad way but I've never had one blow up in my hand.
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Old 2002-10-26, 20:28
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

Well the basic design of a .270 is no different from a .22, so the same way should work.
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Old 2002-10-26, 20:34
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

what i did for my .303 was just grab a pair of plyers and grab the lead and bend it backwards then forwards then left then right and then pull up and the lead should just pop out and you can pour your powder out
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Old 2002-10-26, 20:37
DeusExMachina DeusExMachina is offline
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

it doesnt really matter if there is a different type of bullet or shell. If you know how to take the powder out of one bullet/shell, its the same with the others.
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Old 2002-10-26, 20:37
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

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Originally posted by EP:
Well the basic design of a .270 is no different from a .22, so the same way should work.


Do the .22's have a primer? I'm pretty sure that part isnt built the same way a .270 is.
Of course if I accidentally put pressure on the primer and cause it to go off...
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Old 2002-10-26, 20:40
TheSell0ut TheSell0ut is offline
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

quote:
Originally posted by warweed12:
what i did for my .303 was just grab a pair of plyers and grab the lead and bend it backwards then forwards then left then right and then pull up and the lead should just pop out and you can pour your powder out

Thats exactly what I did with the .22's.
Except I usually rotate the lead piece a bit, and then bend it out.


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Old 2002-10-26, 20:47
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

quote:
Originally posted by TheSell0ut:
Do the .22's have a primer? I'm pretty sure that part isnt built the same way a .270 is.
Of course if I accidentally put pressure on the primer and cause it to go off...



.22's are a rim fire meaning they have a built in primer and the 22 cases can not be reloaded were as a .270 is a center fire and can be reloaded the 22's you have to be careful with because you do not want to crush the rim because i could accidentally fire on you
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Old 2002-10-26, 21:00
DeusExMachina DeusExMachina is offline
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

what the fuck type of a question is " Do the .22's have a primer?"

how the hell would it fire? the firing pin has to hit the primrer and that will ignite the powder and the expanding gases sends the pellets/ bullet
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Old 2002-10-26, 21:05
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

quote:
Originally posted by DeusExMachina:
what the fuck type of a question is " Do the .22's have a primer?"

how the hell would it fire? the firing pin has to hit the primrer and that will ignite the powder and the expanding gases sends the pellets/ bullet



wow calm down boy the .22 cals don't really have a primer they have a shock sensitive paste on the inside on the brass case
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Old 2002-10-26, 22:06
TheSell0ut TheSell0ut is offline
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

quote:
Originally posted by DeusExMachina:
what the fuck type of a question is " Do the .22's have a primer?"

how the hell would it fire? the firing pin has to hit the primrer and that will ignite the powder and the expanding gases sends the pellets/ bullet



I figured that the friction against the back of the shell would make a spark and cause the powder to ignite thus propelling the bullet.
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Old 2002-10-26, 22:37
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

warweed is right.

.22's are rimfire (well actually my grandpa had [has?] a .22 centerfire but they don't make em anymore). This mean the primer is not a seperate piece to allow for reloading like a centerfire. When I took apart some .22's the primer comp (yellow stuff, don't remember what it is exactly) looked like it's just sprayed on while wet, then they let em dry, fill with SP, and stick the bullet it.
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Old 2002-10-26, 22:42
TheSell0ut TheSell0ut is offline
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

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Originally posted by EP:
warweed is right.

.22's are rimfire (well actually my grandpa had [has?] a .22 centerfire but they don't make em anymore). This mean the primer is not a seperate piece to allow for reloading like a centerfire. When I took apart some .22's the primer comp (yellow stuff, don't remember what it is exactly) looked like it's just sprayed on while wet, then they let em dry, fill with SP, and stick the bullet it.



.22's are the only rimfires(to the best of my knowledge). I've opened some shells that had white powder in them, is this odd for a .22?
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Old 2002-10-26, 23:38
P_Dub_Pyro P_Dub_Pyro is offline
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

quote:
Originally posted by TheSell0ut:
I've opened some shells that had white powder in them, is this odd for a .22?



mine are green
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Old 2002-10-26, 23:44
DeusExMachina DeusExMachina is offline
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

sorry, i didnt mean to be rude or anything man... i just talk like that...


just spend some time around here and youll see, im a joker


EDIT: i wouldnt take powder out of bullets or shells... first of all, its dangerous and second, if you get caught, whoever got you those shells will be put in jail (i think) and all their firearms will be taken away...

play safe and use fireworks

[This message has been edited by DeusExMachina (edited 10-26-2002).]
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Old 2002-10-27, 00:04
TheSell0ut TheSell0ut is offline
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

quote:
Originally posted by DeusExMachina:
sorry, i didnt mean to be rude or anything man... i just talk like that...


just spend some time around here and youll see, im a joker


EDIT: i wouldnt take powder out of bullets or shells... first of all, its dangerous and second, if you get caught, whoever got you those shells will be put in jail (i think) and all their firearms will be taken away...

play safe and use fireworks

[This message has been edited by DeusExMachina (edited 10-26-2002).]



'play safe and use fireworks'.
Thats like telling a druggie to snort crushed children's tylenol and play it safe.

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Old 2002-10-27, 00:55
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

isn't the stuff in the .22 primers lead azide?

i know regular primers it is mecury fulminate (well in some)
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Old 2002-10-27, 18:42
DeusExMachina DeusExMachina is offline
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

I have taken the firearms test and hunting test and have both licenses now. I don't think the instructor went through this: what is the difference between rim fire and centre fire?


its obvious what the difference is but I've been curious warweed, is there something that happens if the primer is on the side or the middle? or is it just another way of identification?
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Old 2002-10-27, 18:52
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

quote:
Originally posted by TheSell0ut:
.22's are the only rimfires(to the best of my knowledge). I've opened some shells that had white powder in them, is this odd for a .22?

.22 and .17 are rimfire,

CTR
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Old 2002-10-27, 20:34
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

thats odd .... i two have the same certification but we covered all that

this is a center fire


notice that the primer is located in the bottom and in the middle


this is a shot gun shell




this is a rimfire notice that there is no primer you can see but more of an outer rim this rim contians a shock sensitive explosive that when hit it ignites and then lights the man charge fireing the bullet




[This message has been edited by warweed12 (edited 10-27-2002).]
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Old 2002-10-27, 22:03
DeusExMachina DeusExMachina is offline
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Default Re: powder...from a .270 bullet

ok, thanks man. That covers everthing i needed to know.
 
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