Hey, I got the other ingrediant down for black powder, how do u sulphur and potassium perchlorate?

How do you what with sulfur and potassium perchlorate?

~Zreo

sulfur and potassium perchlorate does nto make black powder .. so i hardly see what you are talking about and like zero said

What with sulfur and potassium perchlorate but yeah ...


oh and bp is

Charcol
Potassium nitrate
Sulfur


but i think your question was ment to go somthing like this correct me is im wrong


"Hey, I found the other ingredient for BP (charcol) now were do i find sulphur and potassium perchlorate for my homemade shit ass BP oh kind and giving totse users"

It might actually be better than with KNO3.

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Originally posted by NickSG:
It might actually be better than with KNO3.

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i know im just saying thats what regular bp is

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sulfur and potassium perchlorate does nto make black powder .. so i hardly see what you are talking about

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there's more then one way to make bp and one way replaces sulfur or potassium nitrait with sulfur or potassuim perchlorate, look in the anachiast cookbook-exlosives

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Originally posted by bmxr105:
[QUOTE]anachiast cookbook-exlosives

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Have we taught you nothing?

yo k, so i need charcoal, i know, same with sulphur, but can pottasium perchlorate, be replaces with potassium nitrate?

BP is pottasium or sodium nitrate, charcoal, and sulfur ONLY! Perchlorate should work, but is usually harder to find. I'm not sure if perchlorates react with sulfur like chlorates do, but I think they don't. I wonder if KMnO4 will work in a BP like comp.? And perchlorate will work, but will be a lot more powerful and fast, and may need less oxidizer. The E.P.I.D. has something like this, but I just got rid of it from my favorites.

ya, ok, i got that, but u need to use the ball mill method or can u do it safely by hand, like do they have to be crushed up real fine.

the finer the better it can be safley crushed by hand but its much easier to ball mill it

k thx man

I imagine it would work, but at what cost?

Perchlorates are quite expensive compared to nitrates (potassium nitrate and sodium nitrate for black powder, anyway). If you have potassium perchlorate you're much better off using it with a better fuel like aluminum powder.

Perchlorates are far more stable than chlorates (though less stable than nitrates). They don't react badly with sulfur as far as I know, but don't quote me. Permanganates, sulfur, and a hygroscopic material (KNO3) would be a bad idea. I don't suggest anyone try that.

~Zero

i don't know if perchlorates are better or werse then nitraits so just use nitraits

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Originally posted by bmxr105:
i don't know if perchlorates are better or werse then nitraits so just use nitraits

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Uhh...

first with the cookbook now with the spelling

#1 i suggest you go back to school you drop-out
#2 i suggest you kick the shit out of your english teacher
#3 drop the fucking cook-book and read some real information there is a topic on this page or a page back (lets compose a list of sites) that has a shit load of good information unlike the 'kewl' shit you read
#4 please don't post stuff that was in or was part of the anarchist shitbook ! and do not read any shit ass old text files telling you to get high off of bannana peals and peanut shells ! if your unsure as to a formula that sounds acurate post it here but is sounds like complete shit like makeing a rocket say out of a shot gun shell ! just drop it before you blow your head off ... better yet go blow your head off ...

im osrry i had to get some of that anger out of me .. these kewls are really getting to me and they keep swarming in by the thousands


*has a mental break down*

*hugs warweed in the male bonding kinda way*

and just to correct you on one point, its not peanut shells its peanut skins so guess what i read before i got here! actually me getting here is from genital-warfare then i found the boards and got him on so yeah im not good with endings.....

Warweed, I suggest you see a licensed counselor. Anyway, here's the way to make BP like a pro:
Take 75% potassium nitrate, 15% air-float charcoal and 10% sulfur and ball-mill it for at least 6hrs. This will leave a relatively fine powder which is good for some pyrotechnic uses, but to make granulated BP, you need to SLIGHTLY moisten this powder and press it (I'd say in between 2 boards with bricks on top), then wait until this is fully dry and crush up the resulting "brick" of BP.

Yeah, you can use perchlorates safely with sulfur. I read that a chlorate-sulphur can actually detonate, even in fairly small quantities.

peace out.
sph3ric pyramid.

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Originally posted by Zero the Inestimable:
How do you what with sulfur and potassium perchlorate?

~Zreo

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totse embraces its newest member zreo.
welcome aboard son.

oh and i think the perchlorate sulphur is a columbian dance and he wants to know how to do it

Heh....Good job Warweed

Hey you know there is a nice little file about Black Powder here on totse.... http://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/ka_fucking_boom/166121.html

Hmm. Missed.

~Zero

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Ist dust nickt in swine shizen?

I tryed makeing bp with potassium permangate instead of kno3. it didnt work.

You would have to change the ratios, I'm sure.

~Zero

can i just add the 3 together, or do i need to but kno3 in boiling alcahol.

zero is probubly right again

so were can i get a ball mill?

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Originally posted by ze_german:
can i just add the 3 together, or do i need to but kno3 in boiling alcahol.

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you can not be from canada !!!


and go back to school and learn some spelling my grammer may suck but i can atleast spell most the time i am trying to make out what you have wrote....

He could be from Quebec and speak French as his native tounge.

~Zero

Well, here was my experience on Black powder:

The very first formula I used was the CIA method from the A-files, but unfortunately, I had very poor results. I did a little more research and found a more "common" CIA method which worked fantastically better.

The common (I have seen it a few times before, hence me calling it �common�) method which I had success with, involves soaking the powder in water, simmer it, and then dump it into cold alcohol stir, let stand for 5 minutes, and pour the slurry through a cloth, and squeeze out the excess liquid, so you are left with a moist lump of powder and then let it dry.

I am not trying to diss you Zero but, I think you A-files method is a little.....um flawed.

I just wanted to let Agent Boris_KGB know that he did quite a good job on this BP page. It's about the best info you can get online about how to make bp.

and how expesive would that be i have around 20 dollors

To what, make gun powder? If you found the right places, you could make 5 pounds for 20 dollars.