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Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum.

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Old 2001-06-09, 14:46
147895 147895 is offline
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Does anyone know a brand name of Salt Peter?

Does anyone know what is is used for, apart from making Smoke Bombs eTc?

Does anyone know if it is available in England, and if so it's name (What is on he bottle/box??

Or how about making it.? Does it conatain Pottasium Nitrate.

I heard it may be a diaretic for animals??!!

Thanks if you can help.

Effigy

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Old 2001-06-09, 17:18
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it does contain potassium nitrate, there's a thread on this in better living through chemistry so go there
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Old 2001-06-10, 01:57
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salt peter is unavalible in england because the ira use to blow stuff up although some chemist ones out of town generally still have some supplies from years back which they will sell under the counter, someone also told me you can distill it from fertillizer don't know how, don't do it though i know a guy who made gun powder with it in his bedroom it started to burn some how! got out of control so he sprayed it with a co2 extingsher which spread it everywhere still alight i think he was 13 at the time(kids hehehehe)
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Old 2001-06-10, 07:32
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I know the army uses it in the food of recruits in boot camp. it keeps people from having an erection. this might sound silly but go to an army surplus store.
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Old 2001-06-11, 00:19
Minami_Sasake Minami_Sasake is offline
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That is very silly. Don't even waste your time.

Saltpeter does not contain potassium nitrate. It IS potassium nitrate. In the united states you can get it at pharmacies and sometimes at hydroponics shops (though I'd doubt you have one of those around the corner). In the UK you can buy the stuff in 55 pound bags at agricultural supply warehouses, and for dirt cheap to boot. You can always order potassium nitrate from SSAerospace.com or PyroTek.com .

Simple, really.

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Old 2001-06-14, 05:15
exsplosives exsplosives is offline
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i live in canada, where can i get it. theres none in the drugstores
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Old 2001-06-15, 06:28
Alan Smithee Alan Smithee is offline
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boil two gallons water pour over five gallons rich soil and through a filter of 2 cups wood ashand linnen cotton if you don't hae any. boil water down to half volume. add gallon of alchohol pour through coffe filter. low purity unless you put the crystals in water and repeat. you can boil 3 cups of this along with two cups sugar and two table spoons of iron oxide in two cups water until it acheive the consistancy of oatmeal then pour it on to a sheet of tinfoil using a butter knife to put a 1 inch grid into the goop deepening it every 20 minutes until it is soft but not sticky and granulate it by pushing it through a screen. makes a handy gunpowder substitute.
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Old 2001-06-17, 04:51
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saltpetre is potassium nitrate is KNO3
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Old 2001-06-17, 06:35
unstable247 unstable247 is offline
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sometimes called niter
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Old 2001-06-18, 04:04
mike_e_clarke mike_e_clarke is offline
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i live in canada too...
in a crappy small village of 2500 people and i can get potassium nitrate in 2 of the 3 pharmacies here... and i've never looked for it in the third one...
its a great oxidizer (hence the use in hydroponics)
i get it in a smallish white container with blue writing, its right next to the epsoms salts in the same style of container

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Old 2001-06-19, 00:31
da_skza da_skza is offline
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i am from canada how much does it cost and what are the recieps
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Old 2001-06-19, 21:08
Pyroman4ever Pyroman4ever is offline
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You can buy it off of Pyrotek under the name Potassium Nitrate for pretty cheap. I wouldn't mess with tring to make it out of dirt because it would be very unpure and dangerous to use. If you can buy it at a local pharmacy though it would work. I called some plant shops and around here no one seems to have it.

[This message has been edited by Pyroman4ever (edited 06-19-2001).]
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Old 2001-07-03, 17:34
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Potassium nitrate (KNO3)is used as a fertiliser (and in 'hydroponics',meaning growing plants without soil)'cause it contains K and N wich are absolutely necessary for the plants.The name 'saltpeter' come from it's mineral origin.
'Chile saltpeter' is NaNO3,found in great deposits in Chile(surprise!).It is higroscopic.
"Norway saltpeter' is Ca(No3)2.The medieval European armies boiled this with wood ash(contains potassium carbonate)and so was made KNO3 for gunpowder.
KNO3 as a mineral is called "Indian saltpeter' and it has organic origin,same as "Chile saltpeter'.
Another way for obtaining KNO3 is using NH4NO3 and wood ash(containing K2CO3).The ammonium 'carbonate' will not be a problem.
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Old 2001-07-03, 17:35
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Potassium nitrate (KNO3)is used as a fertiliser (and in 'hydroponics',meaning growing plants without soil)'cause it contains K and N wich are absolutely necessary for the plants.The name 'saltpeter' come from it's mineral origin.
'Chile saltpeter' is NaNO3,found in great deposits in Chile(surprise!).It is higroscopic.
'Norway saltpeter' is Ca(No3)2.The medieval European armies boiled this with wood ash(contains potassium carbonate)and so was made KNO3 for gunpowder.
KNO3 as a mineral is called "Indian saltpeter' and it has organic origin,same as 'Chile saltpeter'.
Another way for obtaining KNO3 is using NH4NO3 and wood ash(containing K2CO3).The ammonium 'carbonate' will not be a problem.
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Old 2001-07-04, 00:58
unstable247 unstable247 is offline
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hey anthracis, can you go over that procedure for obtaining KNO3 from NH4NO3?
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Old 2001-07-04, 19:50
anthracis anthracis is offline
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What do you mean?Waste of NH4NO3(indeed)?Or you think the method is not working?
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Old 2001-07-04, 19:51
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Originally Posted by anthracis
What do you mean?Waste of NH4NO3(indeed)?Or you think the method is not working?
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Old 2001-07-04, 21:22
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neither, i was just asking you to describe how to do it.
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Old 2001-07-06, 19:32
anthracis anthracis is offline
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K2CO3 extracted from wood ash it has an alcaline reaction;K is replacing ammonium from NH4NO3.
By heating the solution,NH3 is eliminated together with CO2.KNO3 may be cristallised after that.
I guess the reaction is something like that:
K2CO3+NH4NO3---->KNO3+NH3+H2CO3(CO2+H2O)
I'll try this to tell you if it works good.Personally I think that KNO3 is less valuable than NH4NO3.
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Old 2001-07-08, 19:52
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Heating an alkali and an ammonium salt will evolve ammonia gas. Essentialy its a displacement reaction the more reactive anion replacing the weaker (NH4).

NaOH + NH4NO3 ---> NaNO3 + NH3 + H2O

It works with any alkali I think.
 
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