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Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum.

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Old 2000-10-17, 13:28
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I saw some stuff on a TV program a few days ago it had some ppl who were blowing up water. they showed experiments of them running a very high current pulse through a metal beaker of water. The water exploded. The odd thing was that out of the explosion came a hell of a lot more energy then they had put in (maybe 2 times a much, can't remember). I have also see and heard about other experiments which have achived the same type of results, anyone think the oil companys are going to be pissed of when someone make a engine that is powered by this method? (I think one guy claimed to have but his labs were blown up and he was killed, wonder who did it?!).
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Old 2000-10-19, 16:52
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It's a new way to make electricity.
Read it in a science publication.
I can post the article later, if you want it!
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Old 2000-10-20, 23:41
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I would like that, I was going to develop a car engine on the idea.
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Old 2000-10-21, 20:31
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Any liquid when treated in that manner will combust as the water did. The current is so high it separates the components then they combust back together again, in water anyways. You don't get more energy out of the reaction than you put into it. The energy released by 2H2 + O2 is the same as the required energy to perform 2H20--> 2H2 + O2. Remember the first law of thermodynamics. Matter or energy can neither be created or destroyed, but each can be converted to the other. If they said they were getting more energy out of it, then they lied. If they showed you some equation to "prove it" the math was wrong. If it looked like it, well you were fooled. Perpetual motion is a fantasy that will never become reality. In fact I bet if the process was utilized less energy is put out than was put into it. There are other forces at work, friction, gravity, waste in the form of heat. At best one could get out what they put in, but only in a frictionless system.

The idea of running a car on water has been around for ages. In highschool I converted a Cox .049HP model airplane engine to run on hydrogen and oxygen. The piston was fused to the chamber in less than a minute. No lubrication and the high heat of rxn are to blame.

Running such cars that even use different methods are expensive right now, and always have been. Hydrogen is very hard to store, it is the smallest of molecules and will penetrate most anything else, keep in mind it is also the fastest moving gas, as it is the lightest. It's size and speed make most materials permeable to it. But the future does look at least a shade lighter of gloomy than it ever has. Bacteria have been engineered to feed on garbage and produce hydrogen gas, relatively low cost chemically bound hydrogen storage systems have been created. Combustion isn't the only source for the use of water. Hydrogen fuel cells have been around for quite a while, but are horribly expensive to get any with much useable power.

Anyhow the method has also been used in large protype guns, propelling objects over 14,000fps.
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Old 2000-11-02, 04:22
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Im not sure if this is what ur refering to but I saw a prototype gun that did something to water that propelled it at a high velocity out of the barrel forming almost a water bullet and it penetrated 2 inches of steel at a range of oh say only a foot. It was like an advanced model of high powered water guns bomb squads use to break open suspect packages and stuff.
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Old 2000-11-04, 01:41
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Frey,

Not the same thing, what you are talking about is entirely different. What you saw is a robotic attached gun that uses a 12ga blank to propel a bead of water. I probably saw the same show and it didn't penetrate 2" of steel. That kind of impact would cause many explosives to detonate. It hit hard enough to disrupt electronics.
 
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