hey this is cool and all but i'm an isolated way out nowhere who has the ability to blow up trees and such with massive amounts of chemicals but no one to impress with my limited skills. need friends with other chemicals to have a bigger party. only reply if you are in florida and no f*kin homos they should all be blown to H3ll. p.s if you like to drink,smoke, and have hot girl friend chicks thats even cooler.

you call yourself an anarchist? *giggle*

Isn't funny how these dumb punks say they are anarchists, because they think they can learn to "blow shit up"? I bet most of them don't even know what anarchy is. If you call anarchy, chaos or a political statement by blowing shit up, you really mean terrorism. I personally think terrorists should be tortured.

Anarchy is defined as no government, but if you trace its latin roots, it means no leader. MMMmmmmm.

the definition of anarchy: no political or governmental control; without security or lawfullness

i think it could mean a bomb throwing thug, or the more thought out anti-government asshole. i dont really care either. although totse's vast world of files is telling everyone that an anarchist is a bomb throwin thug, i think it really means anti-governmental asshole.

hey just thought i could get a group of people together and blow shit up. Guess i didnt't realize that they care to much about what they call themselves instead of seeing the bigger picture of enjoying life.

Anarchy simply put is a society without any official leadership. There would still be a government as people would most likely band together and probably rule by force.

It really getting old how some one says they're an anarchist just because the want to blow shit up but I guess it sounds better than telling the truth and saying they're a dumb ass. Really think about it which sounds better Im an anarchist or Im a pyromaniacal dumb ass who wets the bed. The goal of a true anarchist is to return man to a state of nature with out masters or slaves described in the writings of Reusso, not to impress people by blowing shit up.

Wow, Alan finally someone that knows what anarchism is. But I think it's more important to realize that it will never happen.

No, like the platonic republic it cant exist. It is a useful Idea however in terms of examining sociology and creating feasible social paradigms the Ideas of anarchy and Reusso led to the devolopments of fasism and modern democracy.

Utopian Anarchy, that is my idea of a perfect government. Each community is self-sufficent of raw materials and food. The population never grows. The people are tuaght a set of rules which they are taught to never question. Life gos on and the survival of the human race is ensured. Of course there are problems if presented to the real world, but in theroy, it could work. Im taking most of this from "The Giver" since it is the most rigid Utopia i've read about. In a "Walden 2" utopia people learn to have power, strive for more, change. Change is the big thing. With change comes changes in balances of power and these changes bring the war, famine, genocide we know today.

But change is not always bad. Change also provides advances in medical technology, energy efficiency, advanced knowledge, better drinking water, longer life.

Without change a society is already dead. change is necessary but it is also a threat because with supperior energy sources and more advanced knoledge come superior weapons.

i always find it hard to understand how anarchy can exist within and under a government's control. isn't such a concept to be without a leader and protection of a government and all of the "pleasantries" involved? how then, if a country is under one law, and one ruler, can anarchy exist? technically, it is still under the law and scince the land it is taking place on is also under the law and rule of the ruler, anarchy can't exist. the government must first be overthrown. yes? no? am i dumb? where can i buy rubber pants?

DK wilds

whuh?

A place where you can buy rubber pants.

oh sweet!!

But in reply to Bongman's message, if people followed a strict set of rules that they were taught not to question, that would be discouraging independent thought, wouldnt it? I always figured anarchy was *about* independent thought.

It's all based on that anarchy is no leader or government and free from their oppression. In the Utopia people would be self sustaining community. People would be ignorant, but there would be no pain or suffering.

the reason why there called utopias is because the word literally means nowhere.

I know, it's so sad. The world could never be perfect.

If there was a strict set of rules, wouldn't there need to be some sort of law enforcement agency? And who would regulate them? It would all lead back to them. And it seems that there would be to much of a chance of corruption. It would have to be self-correcting, or it wouldn't work.

Oops, I meant it would all lead back to a government.

No law enforcement, just community leaders, local government. People would be conditioned from birth on how to think. People would not learn to crave power, to munipulate others, or to lie. Complete brainwashing would be done from birth. It's possible but difficult, but the complete purpose of anarchy would to be not controled. My utopia means complete control, because people would not know better. In an anarchy, say if the government fell apart, what would be left but individuals waring for food until a leader takes control. Todays people are to greedy and item needy to know to contribute to the common good. An anarchy without the mindconditioning would be almost impossible.

Suppose, the whole of the population is wiped out from a diesiese. Only 1 in a hundred thousand survive. These induhviduals craete communitys throughout the country. All are isolated from each other. The attitudes of the surviving people will be what form the attitudes of the cultures to come. The 20 people in boston all come together that survived the End. All these people's attitude form the communal attitude of freindly, helpful, good. In the 20 that survive in new york many happen to be religious, they become like a commune/cult. New York turns to a wholey christian community. It is all the people know. The remaining SF citizens are all mean and aggresive. They become roamers and terrorize any food source the find. And my favorite, In miami the surviving people are largly stoners, they develope into a weed growing, worshipping, and smoking culture. It is all THEY know. Now imagine these cultures developng larger governments and becomeing larger. The US is made up of many largly different cultures. Who will survive?

This kind of strayed from anarchy but it's fun to think of how people today would develop their own governments and cultures if they suddenly became isolated.