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| Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum. |
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#1
 2000-08-29, 19:54
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Neil 
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tazers
hey all, i was wondering if these things ever work? And can you get taPES and books at weapon stores or buy them there? And is there such thing as a nightstick were you can put it on low, medium, or high? And were the best site to buy tazers? Could you buy them at weaspon shops? The things that shoot the two prong thingies and not the ones were you go up to them and hit them. well please reply, see ya
[This message has been edited by Neil (edited 08-29-2000).]
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#2
 2000-08-30, 00:22
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Evil_Mastermind 
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Re: tazers
sure, if you want to go to jail. why not stop being a pussy and just get a gun?
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#3
 2000-08-30, 01:46
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Alan Smithee 
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Re: tazers
If you want to have an electrical weapon make a powerful telsa coil.
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#4
 2000-08-30, 03:24
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The Real 
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Re: tazers
Would take one helluva Tesla Coil to do much damage, anything that produces high voltages, does so at the cost of current. Current kills, voltage just pushes you away and makes you dizzy/stunned. Tesla Coils aren't very mobile either, but they are very fun to play with.
You can buy stun guns at many gun shops, tazers as well, and yes electrified batons, nightsticks, and even riot shields. However don't go zapping people for the fun of it, you can be charged with attempted murder, manslaughter, or even murder if the person dies from falling and bumping their head or frying a pacemaker. I saw a person get hit with a 1 million volt cattle shocker while sitting in his car, he immmediately went into convulsion and was quite some time before he gained his senses back.
They are effective, but in a self defense situation it usually a good idea not to let a person get that close anyways, but something is better than nothing. Non lethal weapons though, I think for use in self defense, are a joke. The only thing that I've read about really working well and always turning a bad guy away is pepper foam. It is pepper spray emulsified into a foam and it is very sticky. It cannot be cleared by the wind and does not rinse off easily. The wind will also not blow it back into you. And lastly as one more benefit most contain a UV dye so if the person does evade police, they can later pick him up and look for the dye that is not visible without a UV light source, the dye will stay on for days depending on how often your assailant bathes or sweats.
While I'm on it, I highly do not recommend using less than lethal ammo. Unless you are fully trained in it's use, are a great shot, and KNOW that you are using it at all times. Bean Bag rounds, Zytel Buck shot, Wooden bullets, rubber bullets, etc can all kill at close ranges and if impacted in certain spots. If you forget you have lethal ammo in you gun and use it as non lethal be prepared for one heck of a legal battle. If you mistakenly have less than lethal ammo in you gun rather than slugs, you may lose the fight if defending against a crack head or what have you. Less lethals were designed to feel pain, something that people trying to kill you or under the influence of something feel little of.
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#5
 2000-08-30, 03:38
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Neil 
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Re: tazers
ah thanks for the info. I just wanted to get one for my future home and pepper spray for back up. I wasn't going to shoot anyone or screw anything up. I'll leave that for a smoke bomb. But do you think like when were older, tasers might replace guns all together?
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#6
 2000-08-30, 05:13
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Alan Smithee 
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Re: tazers
I prefer liquid capsium to pepper spray, know where I can get any?
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#7
 2000-08-30, 05:32
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EXPLOSIVE805 
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Re: tazers
Evil Mastermind go easy on him he's new. And hopefully tasers [or anything else] will never replace guns.
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#8
 2000-08-30, 22:15
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Neil 
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Re: tazers
It's ok ex i don't mind. I'm use to it from all the other forums i go to. This will only be like this for awhile then people will not bother me. It's like a cycle. No biggie you gotta start out somewere. laters
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#9
 2000-08-31, 00:29
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Evil_Mastermind 
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Re: tazers
i would have said that to anyone
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#10
 2000-08-31, 02:41
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The Real 
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Re: tazers
I was under the impression that oleum capscium spray is peppers spray. Isn't oleum capscium an oil extracted from hot peppers?
I hope to god tazers never replace anything. They can be defeated by wearing thick clothing or insulating materials. Effective is range is:if the bad guy is in range you're pretty much fucked. But I'm pretty sure tazers will never replace guns. If not for the reasons above, then because people like myself won't let our guns go. I'll take my 13 shot .45ACP over any gadget any day.
[This message has been edited by The Real (edited 08-31-2000).]
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#11
 2000-08-31, 02:55
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Evil_Mastermind 
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Re: tazers
it was pretty impressive when Garth used it.
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#12
 2000-08-31, 06:19
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Alan Smithee 
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Re: tazers
Capscium or at least the stuff i've heard of is bear repellant it works like mace for bears and has been known to cause fatality in humans and there is not restricion on its sale or possesion.
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#13
 2000-08-31, 20:43
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Neil 
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Re: tazers
what is the best spray that like doesn't kill anyone but it would like do alot to the person who gets sprayed like the strongest? reply back, bye
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#14
 2000-09-03, 23:34
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Alan Smithee 
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Re: tazers
wuss.
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#15
 2000-09-04, 03:51
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Neil 
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Re: tazers
feh-_-
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#16
 2000-09-16, 10:46
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~FALLEN~ 
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Re: tazers
Re pepper type spays they fucking sux i had this stupid bitch turn up at my work with a 4x2 and a broken bottle and threaten to kill me the cops turned up and tried to spray her what a joke both there sprayers where down on pressure and i could have pissed harder she saw the spry coming and just stepped back all they did was spray her shoes.Now when they tackled her and cuffed her she stopped smiling.
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#17
 2000-09-16, 15:19
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BiggCatt 
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Re: tazers
You called the cops ...What a pussy....
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#18
 2000-09-16, 15:26
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Evil_Mastermind 
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Re: tazers
i like stories of attempted murder! why did she want to kill you?
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#19
 2000-09-23, 21:02
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TyLeR 
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Re: tazers
my brother paid a homless guy $10 to let him taze the guy, but it didnt do anything but make him jump backwards.......
-TyLeR
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