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| Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum. |
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#1
 2000-08-16, 08:06
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Alan Smithee 
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Poisons
How do you make niccoteen based poisons? How do you get digitalis from foxglove?
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#2
 2000-08-16, 16:22
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Re: Poisons
nicotene baised poison? nicotene can be used as a poison. we have a country full of people who poison themselves every day. why not let them kill themselves and save you the trouble? 
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#3
 2000-08-17, 12:13
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Evil_Mastermind 
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Re: Poisons
http://www.coolguy.demon.co.uk/handbook/143.htm
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#4
 2000-08-17, 02:40
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The Real 
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Re: Poisons
The easiest way is to soak a can of snuff for about 3 days in a glass of water, filter the water and strain the snuff juice into the water. Boil the water out. You will be left with a thick nasty brown sludge that is high in oils from the tobacco. In this oil will be a high concentration of nicotine, but it is not pure nicotine. I'll research some numbers and get a better extraction made up, the one I've used in the past for pure nicotine is a little sloppy and I'd like to perfect it anyways.
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#5
 2000-08-17, 02:54
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Alan Smithee 
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Re: Poisons
I thank you bouth.
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#6
 2000-08-17, 03:12
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The Real 
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Re: Poisons
Ok heres a better method. Nicotine is miscible, but not soluble in water, meaning it can be separated in a solvent. It is organic so an organic solvent need be used. Such solvents can be acetone, toluene, xylene, and prefferable ether or carbon tetrachloride.
Mix the thick brown sludge with one of you solvetnts and mix well. Two layers will form in the the container. Siphon off the top layer and evaporate the layer you remove. Another brown liquid should be present, bake this off even further at 100�C, and not any more. It will decompose or autoignite at higher temps. Interestingly according to the MSDS for nicotine it can also be made explosive in air, cool. The LD50 info was not given. But it can be aborbed through the skin, however this procedure will only give you the liquid form.
To get the solid form, react the original brown sludge with an excess of sulfuric acid. Not knowing how much is present in the sludge, I'd assume that an equal volume of the acid and sludge would work. Mix well and place over low heat to help the reaction. Dilute this with water and neutralize. Just add small amounst of baking soda until it stops foaming or you get a pH from 6-7. Mix this with an equal volume of a solvent and again remove the top layer. Remove the top layer and evaporate. On paper white crystals of nicotine sulfate should be left which are just as toxic.
Don't get either on your skin, avoid inhaling, ingesting, and contact whatsoever. I've heard the amount of nicotine extractable in one cigarrette is enough to kill a full sized horse several times over. Your skin will absorb it as well. Treat the stuff as, if I get the least bit on me, I will die. First symptoms are skin, eye, or lung irritation in external or inhaled contact. If ingested diarrhea, nausea, abdominal pain, dissiness, disorientation. Further symptoms:dissiness, disorientation, nausea, diarrhea, increased urination and thirst, convulsions, cardiac arrest, and death. Why the fuck do I smoke?!
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#7
 2000-08-17, 07:27
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Alan Smithee 
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Re: Poisons
this would go great with oue of those crossbow pistols. Im thinking about it for my throwers right now though.
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#8
 2000-08-17, 13:26
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Re: Poisons
There's a file on &TOTSE that is 'How to be a Ninja' and it says to make poison from horse shit and human blood. Is this bullshit (or horseshit as it were?)
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#9
 2000-08-17, 17:11
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Re: Poisons
i was wondering about that one.
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#10
 2000-08-18, 04:17
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The Real 
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Re: Poisons
Feces and blood is a trick used by the VC in 'Nam. It wasn't really a poison, it was caused a bacterial infection. Death is not immediate nor a certainty.
I've coated blowgun darts with nicotine my making a paste of nicotine sulfate, starch, and water or blood, dip the darts and sear with a lighter. This was my anti-chipmunk device. The blood was just there as a carrier for the poison, death was very fast for anything I could hit with it, except some poisonous snakes. Namely Souther Copperheads. It always took several hits, I don't know if the poison killed the snakes or just multiple dart hits.
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#11
 2000-08-18, 08:17
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Alan Smithee 
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Re: Poisons
would a simple hydrocarbon lubricant like WD 40 work as an organic solovent? why did I post with a frown? I dont have the slightest idea.
[This message has been edited by Alan Smithee (edited 08-30-2000).]
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#12
 2000-08-30, 05:24
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Alan Smithee 
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Re: Poisons
I know of this product called goof of it contains xylene would it work?
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#13
 2000-08-30, 05:45
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Re: Poisons
I gotta try the nicotine on blowgun darts, it sounds like fun for cats.
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#14
 2000-08-30, 20:31
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Re: Poisons
Damn good fun you red neck fucking bumpkin. Sit outside and kill small animals. Another killer in the works. Planning on assasinating any presedents or molesting young boys soon shithead?
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#15
 2000-08-30, 23:47
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EXPLOSIVE805 
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Re: Poisons
Fuck you, i'm no fuckin redneck you shithead. How the hell does hating cats make you a redneck, dumbass. Who the hell was talking to you anyway faget.
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#16
 2000-08-31, 03:40
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Majicou 
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Re: Poisons
Yeah whatever.
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#17
 2000-08-31, 06:25
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Alan Smithee 
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Re: Poisons
alright back on topic does any one know how to make digitalis.
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#18
 2000-08-31, 16:40
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Majicou 
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Re: Poisons
If I remember my x-files episodes correctly,the little experiment children made it by mashing the entire plant and straining out the sap.
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