has anyone read this book?

A long time ago... all 3

what did you think about the book?

It was ok ... but I know alot of people who channel.

And the feedback he gets is the same type of things ALOT of books I know say. Which is good. And should open up peoples mind.

But is a little incomplete for the serious truth seeker. More of "Lets take a look at the bigger picture".

Why did u read or thinking about reading ?

someone posted up passages about Time & Space, at first when i saw the Title, i was like "oh here we go again, another religious fanatic with his dogma" but when i read it, it sounded very logical and non bias. I just finished reading all 3 books. It's basically info that anybody can come up with if they just think for themselves. A lot of the ideas expressed in the book, were my own prior to the reading. It was just written a lot more eloquently.

Absolutley agreed.

But see ... that .. to you and I are the normal convention of ideas we foster and know.
But to any religious person it is completly out of the question.
Something so easy and logical yet could never be.

It would be so easy to present that book to people and say here... look... this person it not saying "Quick follow me to the TRUE way of god" .. they are just simply saying "What if"... and explaining the context.

exactly, when i was religious i never thought about things like that, but when i grew courage to think for myself, i came up with the same ideas which made me leave religion (this was when i was 7).

Wouldnt be ironic if I read the book and imagined myself in the authors shoes, hehehe.
Nevermind,...

This is for you guyz if you wanna read. Remember that you can take this as a hypothetical situation. This guy is pretending to be GOD and what it would be like if GOD would to answer questions.

Author: But those who have taught me all about the rights and wrongs, the dos and don'ts, the shoulds and shouldn'ts, told me all those rules were laid down by YOU- by God.


Then those who taught you were wrong. I have never set down a "right" or "wrong" a "do" or a "don't" To do so would be to strip you completely of your greatest gift--the opportunity to do as you please, and experience the results of that; the chance to create yourself anew in the image and likeness of Who You Really Are; the space to prduce a reality of higher and higher you, based on your grandest idea of what it is of which you are capable.
To say that something-- a thought, a word, an action is "wrong" would be as much as to tell you not to do it. To tell you not to do it would be to prohibit you. To prohibit you would be to restrict you. To restrict you would be to deny the reality of Who You Really Are, as well as the opportunity for you to create and experience that truth.
There are those who say that i have given you free will, yet these same people claim that if you do not obey me, i will send you to hell. What kind of free will is that? Does thise not make a mockery of God-- to say nothing of any sort of true relationship between us?


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Author: What is Hell?


It is the experience of the worst possible outcome of your choices, decisions, and creations. It is the antural consequence of any thought which denies Me, or says no to Who You Are in relationship to Me.

It is the pain you suffer through wrong thinking. Yet even the term "wrong Thinking" is a misnomer, because there is no such thing as that which is wrong.

Hell is the opposite of joy. It is unfulfillment. It is knowing Who and What You Are, and failing to experience that. It is being less. That is hell, and there is none greater for your soul.

But hell does not exist as this place you have fantasized, where you burn in some everlasting fire, or exist in some state of everlasting torment. What purpose could i have in that?

Even if i did hold the extraordinarily unGodly thought that you did not "deserve" heaven, why would I have a need to seek some kind of revenge, or punishment, for your failing? Wouldn't it be a simple matter for me to just dispose of you? What vengeful part of me would require that i subject you to eternal suffering of a type and at a level beyond description?

If you answer, the need for justice, would not a simple denial of communion with Me in heaven serve the ends of justice? IS the unending infliction of pain also required?

I TELL YOU THERE IS NO SUCH EXPERIENCE AFTER DEATH AS YOU HAVE CONSTRUCTED IN YOUR FEAR BASED THEOLOGIES. Yet there is an experience of the soul so unhappy, so incomplete, so less than whole, so separated from God's greatest joy, that to your soul this would be hell. But i tell you I do not send you there, nor do I cause this experience to be visited upon you. You, yourself, create the experience, whenever and however you separate your Self from your own highest thought about you. You, yourself create the experience, whenever you deny your Self; whenever you reject Who and What You Really are.

I tell you this: You are your own rule maker. You set the guidelines. And you decide how well you are doing. For you are the one who has decided Who and What You really Are and Who You Want To Be. And you are the only one who can assess how well you're doing.

No one else will judge you ever, for why, and how, COULD GOD JUDGE GOD'S OWN CREATION AND CALL IT BAD??? If you wanted you to be and do everything perfectly, i would have left you in the state of total perfection whence you came. The whole point of the process was for you to discover yourself, create your Self, as you truly are and as you truly wish to be. Yet you could not be that unless you aslo had a choice to be something else.

Should i therefore punish you for making a choice that I myself have laid before you? If i did not want you to make the second choice, why would i create other than the first?

author: Yet it seems so ... presumptuous... to simply sit down and dialogue with you this way much less to imagine that you god are responding I mean this is crazy.


I see. The authors of the bible were all sane, but you are crazy.

author: The Bible writers were witnesses to the life of christ, and faithfully recorded what they heard and saw.


Correction. Most of the New Testament writers never met or saw jesus in their lives. They lived many years after jesus left the Earth. They wouldn't have known Jesus of Nazareth if they walked into him on the street.

author: But...

The bible writers were great believers and great historians. They took the stories which had been passed down to them and to theri friends by others elders from elder to elder, until finally a written record was made.
And not everything of the bible authors was included in the final document.
Already "churches" had sprung up around the teachings of Jesus and, as happens whenever and wherever people gather in groups around a powerful idea, there were certain individuals within these churches, or enclaves, who determined what parts of the Jesus Story were going to be told and how. This process of selecting and editing continued throughout the gathering, writing, and publishing of the gospels, and the bible.
Even several centuries after the original scriptures were committed to writing, a High Council of the Church Determined yet one more time which doctrines, and truths were to be included in the then-official bible and which would be "unhealthy" or "premature" to reveal to the masses.

Author:
And what of suffering? Is suffering the way and the path to God? Some say it is the only way.

I am not pleased by suffering, and whoever says I am Does not know Me.
Suffering is an unnecessry aspect of the human experience. It is not only unnecessary, it is unwise, uncomfortable, and hazardous to your health.

Author: Then why is there so much suffering? Why don't you, if YOu are god, put an end to it if you dislike it so much?

I have put an end to it. You simply refuse to use the tools i have given you with which to realize that. You see, suffering has nothing to do with events, but with one's reaction to them. What's happening is merely what's happening. How you feel about it is another matter. I have given you the tools with which to respond and react to events in a way which reduces in fact, eliminates pain, but you have not used them.

Author: Excuse me, but why not eliminate the events?

A very good suggestion. Unfortunately, i have no control over them.

Author: You have no control over events?

OF COURSE NOT. EVENTS ARE OCCURRENCES IN TIME AND SPACE WHICH YOU PRODUCE OUT OF CHOICE AND I WILL NEVER INTEFERE WITH CHOICES. TO DO SO WOULD BE TO OBVIATE THE VERY REASON I CREATED YOU. But i've explained all this before.
Some events you produce willfully, and some events you draw to you more or less unconsciously. Some events major natural disasters are among those you toss into this category are written off to "fate"
Yet even "fate" can be an acronym for "from all thought everywhere" In other words, the consciouness of the planet.

Author: The "collective consciousness"

Precisely. Exactly

Author: There are those who say the world is going to hell in a handbasket. Our ecology is dying. Our Planet is in for a major geophysical disaster. Earthquakes. Volcanoes, Maybe even a tilting of the Earth on its axis. And there are others who say collective consciousness can change all that; that we can save the Earth with our thoughts.


Thoughts put into action. If enough people everywhere believe something must be done to help the enviroment, you will save the Earth. But you must work fast. So much damage has already been done, for so long. This will take a major attitudanal shift.

Author: You mean if we don't we will see the earth and its inhabitants destroyed?


I have made the laws of the physical universe clear enough for anyone to understand. There are laws of cause and effect which have been sufficiently outlined to your scientist, physicists, and through them, to your world leaders. These laws don't need to be outlined once more here.

I read CWG and really grok it, altho not enough to actually follow all the suggestions--especially the one about telling customers, if you are seling retail, what your wholesale cost was. Sorry, I'm not evolved to do that yet. But many thanks for posting the exceprts--they have whetted my sporitual appetite to re-read the whole lot. I wish all the bible-thumpers--especially the god-fearing ones--would read CWG. If nothing else, they might learn that it is not appropriate to be afraid of god. He is, after all, your first, last, and best friend.