There's one thing I really don't understand... Whether you've got the big bang, "intelligent creation," a dream dreamt by an eternal sleeper or whatever, there's one fundamental problem.

Where does it all begin?

WHY did an explosion of creation happen literally out of nowhere? Where did god come from? Or the sleeper?

Simply by existing it seems we defy logic.

Logic is sometimes the great roadblock to understanding...because we base our logic on only the things we believe to be true or real. Truth and reality are anything BUT absolute and unchanging. Yet people get so hung up in a system loop of logic they can never see outside the box of their own beliefs and values. Logic has little to do with what is "out there" or how it all "began". I'm certain that whatever the answer is, it is NOT something that meets the current definition of "logic".
The answer to "how it all began" is simply beyond our current ability to comprehend anything beyond our own prejudices.
There have been all kinds of discussions and theories and logical conclusions...but it's ALL just conjecture. No one knows, nor will we ever really know...At least, not while we share this physical existence with each other.

Like i said in another post.
Maybe God exists outside of time, and time was actually created by God. In this case there can never be a 'before' God.

"Truth and reality are anything BUT absolute and unchanging"

So profound. Our 3 biggest hangups we will have of ever knowing true reality is our minds, body, and ego.

And this horrible complex to think we had to of come from somthing. But we never asked what God came from. In that situation wouldnt it be "logical" to assume we didnt come from anything .. that we just exsisted and will continue to exsist no matter what life form.

>>As quoted from abstractAffect<<

"that we just exsisted and will continue to exsist no matter what life form."

Ah yes, Grashopper...

...and could it be that whatever physical form that life exhibits is a but an illusion or creation of the mind?

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Originally posted by Asumoru:
Where does it all begin?

WHY did an explosion of creation happen literally out of nowhere? Where did god come from? Or the sleeper?

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Asking why is pointless. Our existence is fundamentally lacking in any externally defined meaning.

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Originally posted by Asumoru:
Simply by existing it seems we defy logic.

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How is that?

It all started with thought, thought created a picture of a circle, got bored(as you do!),gave it a twist and the colour came out and made a bit of a mess. A little to simple isn't it?