I believe he is pointing out the underlying complete order that binds all things, not just counting dude.

I know, but he fails to make the connection back to the creator. Both of you; presume a creator, based on uniformity.

How does antimatter fit into this theory? Isn't it the completely opposite structure? I can presume a creator just as easy from this yin and yang view. Who says balance isn't a more powerful force? More important than uniformity?

I believe anti-matter is a product of the Leviathan. The book of Enoch and ancient Mid-Eastern mythology believed good and evil fought over the ability to create and God won. Zoroastoranism (sp?) believes Evil can create and exists independent of good. Its a very interesting theology, because even though it dualizes morality between light and dark, it says light and dark can exist without each other, and does not believe one needs the other to exist absolutely. Considering the roots of Zoroaster and the veiled and encoded physics in ancient central Asian mythology (like Babylonian), I would venture to guess that they had an idea of anti-matter already.

for the equation i shall quote stephen hawking:

"There was a lot of opposition to our work, partly from russians because of their marxist belief in scientific determinism, and partly from people who felt that the whole idea of singularities was repugnant and spoiled the beauty of Einstein's theory. However, one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem."

as for anti-matter it is necessary.

"the very nature existance says it must be.
Isn't it the completely opposite structure? I can presume a creator just as easy from this yin and yang view. Who says balance isn't a more powerful force? More important than uniformity?"

however the science fiction definition works for star trek, but in reality anti-matter is a lot more interesting.

contrary to popular belief there is not an anti-matter universe with a person just like you only with an opposite personality.

everything is based upon a neutrons, protons, and electron.

protons and neutrons are made up of quarks, quarks come in 3 "colors" and 6 "flavors", there are also the antimatter counterpart of quarks called antiquark.

the quarks are held together through the exchange of small packets of energy called gluons.

with anti-matter everything has the exact same structure, only it will be negatively charged.

if it existed the science fiction way there could be untold amounts anti-matter wandering through the universe "searching" for it's counterpart to annihilate.

Spirit, I'll have to read up this.

I do believe in the inherent structure of balance though. Without it, there is no dynamism, so I would tend to think that neither light nor dark could exist as an independent absolute.
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Originally posted by IzzyReele:
with anti-matter everything has the exact same structure, only it will be negatively charged.

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Actually, each form of matter has its own balance. The anti-matter protons are negative, and it's electrons are positive, etc.

btw, I think I learned that on Star Trek, lol.

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if it existed the science fiction way there could be untold amounts anti-matter wandering through the universe "searching" for it's counterpart to annihilate.

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Your intended anti-euphemism of "searching for it's counterpart to annihilate." is appropriate.

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[Zoroastrianism] dualizes morality between light and dark, it says light and dark can exist without each other, and does not believe one needs the other to exist absolutely.

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Given that Zoroaster lived in an era and time, where his village was on the cusp of civilization, and that he favored the life of law - I would have to say that his concept of dualism was a study in human ethics, rather than something from the physical world.

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Considering the roots of Zoroaster

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Paganism? How is that an insight into physics?

It isnt really my field so to speak, but I know Babylonian mythological good and evil is based on atomic structure, with good representing substance and evil representing the empty space in it or some shit like that. But they understood at least on metaphorical levels the nature of matter and atoms. Im sure theres better sources than me for this, but I think Im communicating the basics.

The same thing applies with the Trinitys of Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, and Taoism

The empty space, the energy, and the force(s) that form the atom