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My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged.

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 #1 
Old 2002-02-03, 23:27
Vindicatus Vindicatus is offline
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Why did't god make satan and his followers fall to mars instead of earth? If god was all knowing, he would have known that the serpant would try to deceive eve. I guess the fruit tree of its self was not tempting enough.

Please give me your understanding...
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Old 2002-02-04, 04:25
PoisonFishGirl PoisonFishGirl is offline
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God didn't send Satan just to Earth. Satan can go where he pleases throughout the solar system even. You know that God and His angels live in Heaven, even as Satan and his angels live in the heavens... Tricky, eh?? Hence all the stuff about Astral Travel and stuff, if you know about that kind of thing.
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Old 2002-02-04, 04:35
Vindicatus Vindicatus is offline
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What business would satan have out there between pluto and Neptune? Is satan not confined to the earth? Where would i look in the scriptures?
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Old 2002-02-08, 13:51
PoisonFishGirl PoisonFishGirl is offline
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Job 1:6

"One day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them."

Luke 10:18

"He replied, I saw Satan fall like lightning from Heaven."

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Old 2002-02-08, 20:00
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Here's a better question: Why did God create Satan? If God is omniscient then He would have known that Satan would turn out to be an evil bastard and he would eventually decieve Eve which would deprive man of eternal life.

(supposing that these fictional characters actually exist/existed)

[This message has been edited by Brent (edited 02-08-2002).]
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Old 2002-02-11, 09:03
PoisonFishGirl PoisonFishGirl is offline
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Well, Brent. God created Satan because without Satan the rest of mankind after Adam and Eve wouldn't have come into existence because before they ate the forbidden fruit there was no such thing as death.

Hope you got that.
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Old 2002-02-11, 12:49
Fred Madison Fred Madison is offline
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If Adam and Eve lived forever they could still have children and so on right? Even if there is another reason that makes sense why did God give this job to someone else to do? And shouldn't you be thanking Satan for allowing you to actually be in existence and to experience Heaven?
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Old 2002-02-12, 02:03
Rustysickle Rustysickle is offline
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I think that evil just like good are both universal. I believe that there are other sentients like us on other planets. I also believe that such races would have their own God and Devil duality. So Satan and God does have reason to visit other planets. They are probably not confined to earth alone. They can be anywhere, from other planets to the voids between the stars. God does so, just because he is omniscient, and the Satan just because it suits his cause.
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Old 2002-02-12, 04:57
Fachita669 Fachita669 is offline
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All right, if Adam and Eve were the first two human beings in earth, and technically everyone descended from them, wouldn't all the offsprings be normal? Yes.
However, you got to think that therefore all the offsprings have descendants of their own, and that would be using the same DNA, which is the main reason for down syndrome.
So, wouldn't all the third generation be a bunch of retards?
Or was it that after they sinned that DNA criss-crossing started causing this problem?
I don't get it. According to science, we should be a bunch of inbreds.
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Old 2002-02-12, 05:15
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VA
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I believe the serpent was Lilith...
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Old 2002-02-12, 12:19
Raf_the_Penguin Raf_the_Penguin is offline
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you could go on infitintely with the WHY WHY OH GOD WHY?!?!?!?! crap or you could try to do something constructive......

btw, it would be suggestful to ignore anything semiintelligent poisonfishgrl tries to say, sorry lady, but from your posts dear watson ive deducted that to a good extent your a moron. *nods*
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Old 2002-02-12, 14:58
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If God created anyone to help him administer the Heavens, Cherubim, Seraphim, archAngels, Satan, it is because he is not omnipotent. It is likely that he did not even create them. The notion of omnipotence in a god was almost unique to Christianity because it was a religion of slaves without fathers who needed to feel loved and protected. They had a I have no Daddy complex, so they kneeled to something they percieved as all knowing, all loving, and protecting. Early Christians were like the shithead women who love the guys who beat the fuck out of them.
That doesnt retract from the legitimacy of religion though. It just means you have to take care to seperate the spiritual from the propaganda issues to assure the slaves.
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Old 2002-02-12, 23:22
syphon detonator syphon detonator is offline
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poison fish dont confuse the two. astral projection is true and frees you. christitaninty is a lie and enslaves people. they are not related.
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Old 2002-02-13, 01:53
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Bah.

How do you know?

Astral Projection can be related to anything it's practicioners comprehend, and some things they don't.
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Old 2002-02-13, 12:18
Raf_the_Penguin Raf_the_Penguin is offline
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From my experiences in attempting to astral travel, anxiety and fear are things which set you back.

From my experiences with christianity, anxiety and fear are things which bring you "closer to god".
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Old 2002-02-18, 11:09
PoisonFishGirl PoisonFishGirl is offline
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Syphon Detonator, Astral Projection is taking part in the Occult and will drag you down in a heap of demonised spiritual shit.

Christianity is the light, the only light that allows you to be saved through the blood of Jesus Christ. Through Jesus' blood, all Christians have authority. I know which side i'd rather be on.
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Old 2002-03-13, 17:48
Vindicatus Vindicatus is offline
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Thank you "all" for your thoughts.

"It is not answers you seek, but more questions."
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Old 2002-03-13, 22:20
lostmind lostmind is offline
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astral projection is a lucid dream state, you just believe it to be a real experience.

i said somewhere else it's religions way of pointing the finger away from man.

john 3:16 for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son

could've also been:

for god so loved the that he had his "problem" angels come here and fuck with us.

i've always wondered,

what did noah feed the animals?

and if everything is here because noah had it on the ark..

noah had crabs.
 
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