No to homosexuals?

For fun?

Any ideas?

It doesn't say no to homosexuals. That's how some ignorant theists interpret it however.

yes it doesn't say no to homo's but it does say :
babilon will fall at it's hart of economy
citizens & world leaders will cry for who will give them luxury and jewery now ?
babilon=city of miricles
america=a mericle

revilations: 10-20

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P.S. babilon is no place of gods & cause of atack = the nation of god (isreal has got some fucken good pilots)


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the Bible specifically says that homosexuality is an abomination.

if you want verses, i will be glad to show them to you.

read a litte Romans.

Quote some verses of the Bible, but make sure it's the Bible and not some manual for monks and priests which aren't supposed to have sexual relations which anyone, be they man or woman.

ok i found it thanks bar room your my hero

but it says that only people who lust men are wrong and will be punishened on the same day as babilon gets it but we will have to still wait +-25 years before that time

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but remember fun is ok as long as it isn't held above god

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Supposing God even exists.

It's because Christians are against non-procreational sex and by definition, homosexuals practice non-procreational sex.

Read up on Sodom and Gammorah.

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Does it really matter what the bible says about gays? It is just some human's opinion who is trying to masquerade his subjectivity by the proposition that he is close to some fictional creature, called God, as divine morality. Supposedly because this God created this world this morality is 'human nature' or how humans ought to behave. It is all just so some monotheistic theocrats can oust the Romans.

no it is some human's opinion that a race of homosexuals won't survive one generation, and if you're starting a nation on a planet where the idea is something new.

offspring are pretty important not only for the development of that nation, but also the longevity.

and it probably had a little something to do with stabilizing an environment, and realizing that if man is to truly set himself apart from the animals uninhibited sexuality that went on when groups of people lived under the same rock won't progress groups of people with individual families living under the same roof.

or would you have preferred civilization evolved like a herd of cattle?

where the bull has to be moved every now and then to prevent inbreeding or he'll just keep fucking whatever is nearby.

Ok.

Why the taboo?

>>>>>>>>mega volt
go to www.blab.com they can show you homo birthday cards very funny though "arnold" jumping out of cakes and stuff

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The Bible says so many contradictory things that I've lost ability to take it seriously as a storybook, let alone a ethical guideline.

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Why the taboo?

Huh?

Could there be any reason why for thousands of years homosexuality has been taboo?

Don't tell me about greece or non-reproductive sex.

Why do people hate homosexuals?

[This message has been edited by Mega-Volt (edited 11-27-2001).]

NO! it speaks of lesbianism as well (Romans 1:26) and the next verse details male homosexuality as well.

and if you wish to understand the context of the verse, start at the section of 'God's Wrath Against Mankind' (romans 1:18)

'...and recieved in themselves due penalty for their perversion." (romans 1:27)

and in romans 1:32, it says (word for word here): "Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them."

believe me, there is plenty more where that came from.

not to sound brash, but it is the truth. the Bible DEFINATELY refuses homosexuals.

why the taboo,

because it's not natural to be purely homosexual.

there are bisexual creatures in nature, but man is the ONLY strictly homosexual creature.

and yes i'm talking about non-reproductive sex.

how long would mankind last if everybody was a homosexual?

i hate to sound like defiant exile, but it's a contradiction to life.

which is probably why most people, no matter what your religious background or ethnic background has looked upon homosexuals as "evil"(for lack of a better word), because of it's unnatural characteristics destroying the continuation of a species.

Perhaps homosexuality evolved as a recessive trait in humanity as sort of a natural population control?

Actually it hasn't been taboo for thousands of years. Leonardo DiVinci, Michaelangalo and many of the other great renaissance artist/scientists were gay. That's probably why they had so much time to do research and create, because they didn't have to worry about a family.

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"God has not been proven not to exist, therefore he must exist."

doesn't mean it was accepted.

the bible sticly forbids sueing so how can bush even pretend america is gods nation

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So the only argument you have against homosexuality is that it is non-reproductive and that if everyone was homosexual then the human race would die out? I can say the same thing about everyone using some sort of contraception. Contraception is unnatural by this thinking, yet it is pretty much accepted. But not everyone is using contraception so there is no danger, no worry, and nothing to not accept.

"How long would mankindlast if everybody was a homosexual?"
The keyword here is *if*. Since, not everyone is homosexual there is no danger of the human race dying out from it. Homosexuality can slow down the population and that can even actually help.

i never said it was bad,

i just gave the reasons for it's dislike throughout the centuries.

one problem a gay man never has to encounter is whether or not his son is gay.

I didn't say that you said it was bad. I showed how those reasons are bullshit. It is ridiculous to not accept homosexuality and say it is unnatural. I'm heterosexual and if in the future I find that my son might be gay, it will not be a problem.

what would you think if you lived in a culture where your legacy is determined by your offspring.

and your only son to carry on the family name and legacy your family has built throughout the centuries was gay.

forget your 21st century politically correct attitude for one minute.

and i know you'd disapprove of it.

But we don't live in such a society. We live in a society where your legacy is based on what you do in your life, and how it affects the world you live in.

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"God has not been proven not to exist, therefore he must exist."

What jack said. And if my son was gay and I wanted my family to go on I can just have another kid. I wouldn't know the chances of the other being gay but I doubt it would be 2 in a row. Hell, may not even decide to have another kid because it's totally possible for my kid to be have a child of his/her own without the act of sex.

I don't have a politically correct attitude. I don't like political correctness. I think through things and I don't give out an opinion where it isn't a true opinion I have. I don't disapprove.

So what argument do you have now against homosexuality, other than that other people MAY have a problem with it? Because that can be fixed. That problem can go away with time and acceptance.

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Actually Sodom and Gonorrah (spelling? no idea) werent destroyed cause of their homos.

I'm not going to explain it... I'll just link you.

Check out this page: http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibi.htm

^ mistranslation! Guess what, the bible isnt anti-gay after all. Just anti-everythingelse.

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Originally posted by MesserschmidtBf109:
It doesn't say no to homosexuals. That's how some ignorant theists interpret it however.

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Leviticus 20:13. If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

That sounds anti-gay to me

does that mean gay men can have sex standing up?

"i want to do you in the worst possible way... standing up in a hammock with boxing gloves"

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Originally posted by MesserschmidtBf109:
It doesn't say no to homosexuals. That's how some ignorant theists interpret it however.

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it clearly says NO to homosexuals in both Romans and Lev:

Romans 1.27 "And for men were evil in their hearts for lusting one another"

Lev not sure what chapter off hand) Men shall not lay down with Men and Women with Women" then it says something about men laying like sticks/kidle of fire. I believe this is where the term "Faggot" comes from. Faggots is defined as sticks tied together or something used as kindle. I Could be wrong. Many people have many explinations of where the term faggot orriginated from.

i don't know jack and fred sounds pretty politically correct to me.

so you disapprove of others opinions fred, maybe they disapprove of yours,

yours can be taken away with time and experience.

"how come to not be racist i can only dislike white people"~hank hill

Sorry. I don't mean I would expect every single person to change their opinions just like that. But a lot of new people coming into a population will have different opinions and views than their elders do. And those people change the society gradually. You can still keep whatever your opinions and views are.

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Originally posted by lostmind:


"how come to not be racist i can only dislike white people"~hank hill

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this is one of those things i read 4 or 5 times that just doesnt click. What does this phrase mean?