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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |
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#1
 2001-02-15, 22:42
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PureEvil 
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Suspended from school because of religion
Hey i got suspended from a PUPLIC school because of a pentagram on something. can they legally do this?
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#2
 2001-02-15, 22:58
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
i live in the uk but over here unless you showed it to people that take ofence to it - or physicaly harm some one they cant kick u out - but then again it might be diferent over there
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#3
 2001-02-15, 23:08
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
no it was just some fucking christian teacher who saw it. and he got all biased. He had no right.
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#4
 2001-02-16, 02:15
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
A lot of schools have rules against "violent imagery". If the pentagram in question was dripping blood or something, I could see it (wouldn't agree with it, but I could see it happening). If it was nothing more than a circle with a star in it, no messages about killing your family or anything, then no, I don't believe they can legally do anything. The question is, can you fight it (if you even want to)? I hope your parents are on your side if you try.. not that you absolutely need them to be, but it would make things easier. It would give you some cred, instead of looking like an unhappy kid crying "unfair".
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#5
 2001-02-16, 03:31
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
Bring it to the supreme court. Ruin his life. Sue him for all he has.
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#6
 2001-02-16, 05:35
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
Sue for religious persecution.
Shit like that cannot continue. I hate these Christians that seem to think other religions were created as a personal insult to them.
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#7
 2001-02-16, 05:58
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
Well the whole idea thing was retarded. the problem is with teachers is that they can not take a joke. It was the wingdings smiley face with horns and fangs and a pentagram on his forehead. he had a word balloon saying "hi im satan, i love you, can i have a dollar? i like jello" what the fuck? it was goofy. But the teacher who saw in keyboarding class was a super christian and went all shitfucky. Some people. Im sick of super christians.
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#8
 2001-02-16, 11:25
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
It's your fifteen minutes of fame starting..
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#9
 2001-02-18, 21:12
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
quote: Originally posted by Spiffy McBang: It's your fifteen minutes of fame starting..
i now live in the uk because i was suspended from school for saying: God is weak
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#10
 2001-02-20, 16:55
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
There are two organizations you can contact for help: the ACLU or People for the American Way. What happened to you is bullshit. It might just take a call from one of these organizations to get your suspension nullified.
If anyone wants to fight this sort of thing, consider contributing to the above organizations. The intolerant Fundamentalists are very organized but you can fight back.
Good luck!
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#11
 2001-02-20, 21:50
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
IM gonna give them a call as soon as i can get the number. People these days need to learn to take a fucking joke
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#12
 2001-02-23, 22:05
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
I saw something similar on the burning times website. They have some forms you can fill out and send to the superintendant of something.
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#13
 2001-03-06, 07:23
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
THAT IS THE DUMBEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD, I'MMA CHRISTIAN AND I DONT CARE IF SOMEONE HAD A PENTAGRAM OR WHATEVER ON A PICTURE OR EVEN A TATTOO AS A MATTER OF FACT I HAVE A VERY GOOD FRIEND WHO IS A SATANIST, I'M TIRED OF ALL THESE BIGGOTS GIVING CHRISTIANS A BAD NAME ! THE BIBLE EVEN SAYS ITSELF THAT WE HAVE TO RESPECT OTHER'S RELIGIONS AND NOT TREAT THEM LIKE LESS OF A HUMAN
------------------ I'M YOU !
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#14
 2001-03-06, 09:35
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
Thats a bunch of BS. I don't think you should have or do anything you fucking want to. It's your life, live it. Just fuck school get wasted and have fun. After all your all gonna die anyway.
Deathcharmer
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#15
 2001-03-06, 18:47
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
GOD IS WEAK, I just love that.
well it matters, are you just a kid drawing that for fun or is it really your religios veiw of the world?
If it is really your religion then yes call up those groups and get him fired for unfair treatment.
here in my town there are to groups of kids one third is potheads and shit and almost the rest is preps and a small amount is loners and kids that don't have more than 1 or 2 friends.
well the teachers treated the potheads (me and my friends) unfairly up at the local high school. one day my friend was suspended for a week for kicking a garbage can over, and about a month later a prep lit the very same garbage can on fire and the prep only got 3 days suspension both by the same teacher.
well the teacher was sued by my friends parents for unfair treatment and when that happened me and most my friends stepped up and told how all but 2 teachers and the principal on staff were bastards that liked to treat us unfair.
2 teachers were fired, and many suspended without pay.
but we stood up and now well were still treated shitty, and we didn't really get anything, but at least we got the 2 teachers we hated the most fired.
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#16
 2001-03-07, 00:56
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
MAN I HATE THOSE PREP FAGS
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#17
 2001-03-07, 19:54
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_rel.htm
http://www.aren.org/legislature.html
http://www.paganteahouse.com/library/archives/arc0010.html
http://www.witchwisdom.com/court.html
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Ain
[This message has been edited by Ain (edited 03-07-2001).]
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#18
 2001-03-07, 21:19
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
Muhahaha
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#19
 2001-03-07, 21:57
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
**hey guys what are muhahahahaing about?**
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#20
 2001-03-07, 23:54
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
Fuck, im not a satanist, but im not a christian either. i don't believe in religion. I think people who need to look to a higher power for explanations to their problems are weak minded. No offense to anyone here. More or less it was just a joke in all fairness the principle is a nice guy. He wanted to have my parents call him so he could explain what it meant but just then the teacher that cought me piped up about how it could represent violence. What the FUCK! i have friends that are satanists they aren't nesscessarily violent. The entire world is based on stereotypes and there isn't much we can do about it and thats what pisses me off. This is the reason kids bring guns to school and start popping off people. I mean we'll always have the people that just snap (I actually live within walking distance of the school where the guy came in with a machette and started hacking people if you heard about that in teh news) but most of it is due to corruptness. It didn't hurt anybody (the pentagram) people get offended to easily. What the fuck is offended? Im not offended by anything. If i woulda came up to him and punched him in the mouth that would be a different story. But all he had to do was look away from the computer or move to a different chair something like that. He was just being a fuck. I don't understand people nowadays
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#21
 2001-03-11, 18:32
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
sorry purevil but where being brought up in a generation of retards, and brought up by a previose generation of morons. the world won't get any smarter, better, or mentally stronger.
the world hasn't changed in a thousand years.
human nature will always be the same, who cares if we have computers now when many many years ago a pen was a great new invention.
were still mammels, we still breath air, and even if we weren't, or we didn't, we would still be the same virus, scum, waste, that we are right now.
the world is run by weak minded individuals that will hate you, scoff at you, and pitty you.
theres no stopping the ineventable fact that the world will never change.
It was once said that if everything ment nothing then nothing ment everything.
Our actions mean everything because if there is no change then it is those little things that will make us happy.
we should live our lives in search of our happyness.
"it's the human way to seek pleasure, the only reason humans do things that hurt them is because they don't know what pleasure is" Plato
------------------ Cogito, ergo sum
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#22
 2001-03-11, 19:57
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
The world is always changing.
Maybe if you paid attention, you'd see it.
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#23
 2001-03-12, 02:00
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
pity though for all our advances;
it really hasn't changed for the better.
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#24
 2001-03-12, 16:56
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
In some ways, yes; in some ways, no.
Overall? Depends on your POV, I suppose.
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#25
 2001-03-14, 20:39
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
Humans are self-rightgeous bastards, and primitive to say the least.
Your just chillin' in keyboarding and then, Oooo! A 400 pound gorilla slaps your paper out of your hand and kicks you out because it has a "diably, the smilin' terror" on it, then you realize that the gorilla was your one track minded teacher.
I feel shamed just to be amongst them sometimes, public education is a damn farce, that's why I got the hell out of it.
A high school education don't say much. It just points out that you could tolerate all those years of the school system shitting down your throat and you got a piece of paper as an award.
I have a friend that dropped out of High School cuz the bullshit, and he is smart enough to go to Harvard.
I also have a friend going to Harvard that isn't even as smart as the one who dropped out!
Sorry, no offense to any people who proudly boast ther alma matter, but I just had to say it.
~Dark
-"I am the unraveler, the loose thread that will not hold," -Seal Inscription
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#26
 2001-03-15, 18:41
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
fuck, down at the local high school my friends that go there are treated so shitty but the preps are treated much better because "people like us are just disturbing those who want to learn. and it wouldbe better if we just went somewhere else."
my friends brother is one of those fuckin geniuses and he gets like 90's and shit on all his classes but because he does drugs and shit and skips a lot the teachers are always treating him shitty trying to get him to dropp out.
hmmm, I go back to school next year. I know I'm going to be treated shitty. and my whole class exept for like 3 others is all preps next year. thats gonna suck.
I'm gonna have to fight them with my back against a cement wall so they break there knuckles if they miss me.
------------------ Cogito, ergo sum
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#27
 2001-03-15, 22:01
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
Public school sux my fukin' ass. Always has, always will, where else can you get shit on by educators, have your youth squandered, not be able to show your potential, and get shot at all in the same place?
~Dark
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#28
 2001-03-16, 17:45
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
I could think of a few places.
------------------ Cogito, ergo sum
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#29
 2001-03-19, 03:09
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
I think homework is bullshit too. I get A's on all my tests, well, 90% of em, and I just am too bored to fuck with the homework. What should be the difference, I retain what I learn, I mean, I must, to get the tests passed. I think we should listen to them lecture, and take notes if we want to, then take the tests, and decide our fates. I mean, they are the major test of knowledge right? not the homework!
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#30
 2001-03-19, 07:42
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
that's what's cool about university. they don't make you take notes or do homework. it's up to you, if you wanna do it or not or if you even want to show up for class. but here's a piece of advice, if you're paying that much money, go to class at least a couple times a week, cuz the school don't care if you fail out for that reason, but your parents sure will.
------------------ It's true that every time you hear a bell, an Angel gets its wings. But what they don't tell you is that every time you hear a mouse trap snap, and Angel gets set on fire.
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#31
 2001-03-23, 08:23
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
Hey public schools just a fuckin nut theres no other to put it. My friends and I get treated like shit too. Cause the teachers r ignorant assholes. They figure that if u don't sacrifice ur life to better them than ur a waste of space. Their just a bunch of under educated cocksuckin bastards. They're livein in a dream world.
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[This message has been edited by Nemesis (edited 03-23-2001).]
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#32
 2001-03-24, 16:59
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
where did you find a wingding face with horns fangs and a pentegram? i've looked all throught the charmap and nothing
------------------ non-conformists are all alike..
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#33
 2001-03-24, 22:59
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
Thats because there isn't one. I just took the smiley face and drew the horns and shit on it.
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#34
 2001-03-25, 01:35
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
Im a christain, and if your not your all going to hell!!!! lol..jp...oh well...if any teacher is that much of an ass regardless of his religion...they are suppose to be completely unbiased so they can teach you simple facts...not brainwash you....go for it
------------------ The path to peace is paved in the bricks of war
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#35
 2001-03-25, 01:40
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
hell...actually, I looked at many religions and what they are like...they make tons of fucking sense to the phsyce but none to logic. Take it this way, I will use christianity for an example. Sin. Alright, because of Adam and eve and Satan we do these things...although we cant point the finger at them and say 'the devil made me do it' ...it still excuses it as nautre. Heaven. I mean...wtf...life sucks alot of the time...dont you want to look forward to something much better than this life...hell yea, lol....and when someone dies....they go somewhere nice...so instead of sadness you can try and feel happy for them.... Be nice to people and good things will happen to you in a later life. the world is fucked up, your gonna have problems...and its only gonan get worse till you go north.... A lot of relgions are like that....just diffeerent in the details...its very healthy to beleive in something though...really.... It fucks with your head less...and trust me... most of the people here (including myself  ) have had their head fuked up enough already heh ------------------ The path to peace is paved in the bricks of war
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#36
 2001-03-25, 10:51
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
everybody picks on christianity when in reality all religions say the same exact thing just in other words.
ex:
if you induce bad karma; bad karma will befall you
if you live by the sword you die by the sword
what goes around comes around.
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#37
 2001-03-25, 18:57
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
satan works for me now!
------------------ Cogito, ergo sum
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#38
 2001-03-29, 20:49
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
God made Satan, people fear what Satan will do to them. Well, imagine what God could do to you seeing as he made the bastard.
!Dark
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#39
 2001-04-07, 02:24
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
Religion is stupid it has fucked the world and started wars
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#40
 2001-04-07, 04:14
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
As a Christian the only thing that seperates Christianity and other religons is that my God rose from the dead and who elses did that???? something for u to think about. � I also think that the teacher who suspended Pureevil was not fair and being a good example of a christian if he goes all haywire but he is human and does have the right to say something about it but not in that manner. pureevil and every one else god bless
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#41
 2001-04-14, 01:09
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
i see you realy do know your religion, but wasnt it Jesus(the son of G-d) that rose from the dead and not G-d? or was that just me and my awfuly bad reading skills again?
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#42
 2001-04-25, 23:05
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
people piss me off. i hate when people say god created satan. ok, first of all, there is no god. wasnt it freud or someone that said if the human race hadnt had religion they would create something called religion so they could rely on an invisible force of support? god did not create satan, christians created the word satan, to represent the carnal nature of humans. for example, the seven deadly sins. greed: how can anyone not feel greed? so oops, you want to have more money, i guess you are going to hell. sloth: i guess the fact that someone wants to rest once in a while is a sin as well. sux for u! etc... so my point is, satan represents everything that humans label as "bad," when in reality there is nothing that is realy good or bad, just someones impression on things. for example, someone may think that eating meat is bad, but hell, i love cheeseburgers. so yeah, there's my opinion on the whole thing. oh, and kid, school sucks ass no matter what you do, so either shoot everyone, drop out, or put up with it, because ive tried fighting the system, and no matter what the hell i do, the administration lies and cheats its way to victory.
------------------ Christianity
Come join our cult, little children. God loves you so much that he will take you to heaven if you believe in this book of Jewish folktales. And if you don't believe, then he will send you to a place where there is fire and burning and pain and torment forever and ever. But he loves you. Sort of like how Santa only brings toys to kids who believe
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#43
 2001-04-25, 23:07
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
i love that quote hehe
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 2001-04-26, 03:49
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
Ah, the constitution is abridged once again. I only have a few explanations for this hypocrisy:
No. 1: Most people do not realize that the pentagram is not neccessarily a symbol of Satan. It's actually a symbol of power - the five pointed star in a circle. The pentagram may be placed right side up and upside down to channel different sorts of energy in many pagan beliefs and was soon associated with Satan through the Roman Catholic Church so they'd have another reason to call the pagans Devil worshipers.
No. 2: Since most people don't realize this, most of your peers don't know it either and wearing a pentagram (while fine by the constitution) is like yelling fire in the movie theatre. You just can't do it because it's infringing on the "peace".
Now, the hypocritical part is that people walk around school wearing stars of David and crosses and crucifixes left and right and no one has a problem with that. That's because having a dead guy around your neck is for some reason more acceptable that a pentagram, because people are taught to fear the pentagram because it is supposably the symbol of Satan. Well, this could go on forever. And you could sue the school board for that, but you'd probably get nowhere. My guess is that you were knew what you were doing and you did it anyways to be a smart-ass. Again, no problem there. But, you should've known what you were getting into when you wore it to school.
Bottom line: People are stupid.
Cheers, Lost
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 2001-04-26, 07:11
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Re: Suspended from school because of religion
Satan escaped from my underwear drawer. I'd stay out of bordellos for a few centuries.
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