How DO you feel about beeing handcuffed, brought to a police station and put in a cell,
Then having to go in front of 12+ 1 ppl who will decide how much longer u will remain in a cell?

would u give anyone permission to kill you or surround u by 4 walls with a hole in the one of them for the next 30 years?

does it take u that long to reconise your mistake?

King,

I don't get the point you are driving at. Help me out, or I'll have to move this to Conspiracy or Bad Ideas.

Nox

By committing a crime against other members of society, you forfeit your right to decide your own fate, and are thus entrusted to a judge and a jury of your peers.

Of course, this assumes the laws of the land are just and legitimate - an altogether stickier proposition.

driving at.
How you feel about the state controlling the rest of your life for an action that you commited against it.
As in ur day of crime vs the life they take away from you

a better question... how did they get so much power in the first place?

Simple. We gave it to them.

Nox

Obviously you started it. The state has the right to do what it wishes to do to you (not that you pervert).

Homer

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driving at.
How you feel about the state controlling the rest of your life for an action that you commited against it.
As in ur day of crime vs the life they take away from you

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Depending on which country your action have been commited in. In some countries you get imprisonment for life and others you get one shinny bullet in the head.

Which your family has to pay for.

Nox

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Which your family has to pay for.

Nox

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Say what you will of dictatorships, but it must be admitted that they often have a flair for irony.

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driving at.
How you feel about the state controlling the rest of your life for an action that you commited against it.
As in ur day of crime vs the life they take away from you

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Baretta had a saying, "Do the crime and you do the time"

Now Kingenrage, ask yourself if a person murdered all your loved ones, raped and stabbed your wife to death, slashed the throats of your children, and was arrested, WOuld you feel like he should have some of your sympathy?

Then id prefer torturing him until his end, instead of knowing that he ends up in prison with his friends and that he will cost the state a minimum of 23000$ per year

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Then id prefer torturing him until his end, instead of knowing that he ends up in prison with his friends and that he will cost the state a minimum of 23000$ per year

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Then what exactly is your post about then?

Giving the power to the state to take away your freedom.
U dont mind?

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Giving the power to the state to take away your freedom.
U dont mind?

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If you commited a crime, tough titty. Fuck them.

what is a crime?
A law that u break?
When its a law imposed by the state for rigths of others it should be allrigth, but if its a law with protects the rigths of the state they should not take away your freedom
( unless it actualy hurt citizens of that state { like killing sprees )) wich comes back to hurting ppl

Like would u accept a 30 day prison term cuz u didnt pay ur parking bills?

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Like would u accept a 30 day prison term cuz u didnt pay ur parking bills?

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That wouldn't happen, First, I wouldn't commit a parking violation. Second, Had I, I would have promptly paid it.

Once again, tough titty. Fuck them.

Why do u accept paying for a place to park?

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Why do u accept paying for a place to park?

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I don't own the place, they can do whatever the hell they want. Plus, it provides a paycheck to those who write tickets for parking violations. If you've ever been in a hurry for an appointment and was forced to be late because some asshole double parked, or parked his SUV in a compact parking space, you'd want for that as well.

Imprisoning people for doing drugs in my opinion is a violation of civil liberties. Who has the right to tell me what I can and cannot put in my own body? Ridiculous

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Imprisoning people for doing drugs in my opinion is a violation of civil liberties. Who has the right to tell me what I can and cannot put in my own body? Ridiculous

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The problem comes when you don't have money for those drugs and rob someone for it, or kill someone under the influence of drugs.

in which case you imprison the people for committing the crime, rather than trying to predict the likelihood of comitting a crime on lifestyle choices. Profiling doesn't work. Statistically you're more likely to commit a crime when you're under the influence of drugs. Statistically you're also more likely to commit crime under the influence of alcohol, or if you happen to be poor, or black, or male.

I also cringe at the idea of my daughter being offered that shit in the future.

Drugs should be illegal.
why?
because 70% of crime is drug related.
why?
Because addicts steal
why?
Because drugs are incredibly expensive.
why?
because they are illegal.

-Ah look a circular argument.

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-Ah look a circular argument.

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A quick history lesson for the Dr. since he is not a US type:

100 years ago today, drugs were legal and taxed in the US of A. Congress made drugs illegal and eliminated a source of revenue (I know that is difficult to believe, but it's true). Why? Because of the number of addicts in this country. These people were addicted, not because of recreational use (although like anything, there were always some) but because they were trying to relieve pain. Heroin and Morphine are brand names of products from the Bayer Chemical Co. (Germany) which were current at the same time as another non-addictive pain medication (the idea came from the Cherokee- a Native American Nation) that Bayer produced called ... Aspirin.

So much for the 'circular' argument. Making drugs legal will only exacerbate an already monumental problem ... addiction.

Nox