do u buy their story? i dont, i wanna see the baby! and some other proof

wierd people + money = stupid crap.

I believe there is a chance that they have cloned a human, but I am with you on the idea that proof is needed.

And another thing, In english the second person pronoun has a full 3 letters "y," "o," and "u," ACT LIKE IT YOU DUMB SHIT!! And if you don't, I'm gonna find you and I'm gonna beat you so badly that not even your momma can't identify you! LEARN ENGLISH!


Homer

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Was just about to make a post about this:P

But anyways, its unethical I bet they didn't do it they're Quebecers they said they would seperate, they didn't...Can't stick to something.

I refuse to believe the story until:

They FULLY disclose to the scientific community how they did it in a specific, step by step, verifiable manner

They FULLY disclose WHERE they did it

They allow a 3rd party to take blood tests of both the mother and daughter

They allow us to see the girl, disclose her name, and the name of the women

If she is really a clone, then both the daughter and mother would have the exact DNA

What's to stop these cultists from simply taking two blood tests from the mother and claiming one is from the mother, the other from the daughter?

Personally I think a human has been cloned anyway, by scientists who are doing it because they believe in their work, and its positive effects, but thats just me

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wierd people + money = stupid crap.

I believe there is a chance that they have cloned a human, but I am with you on the idea that proof is needed.

And another thing, In english the second person pronoun has a full 3 letters "y," "o," and "u," ACT LIKE IT YOU DUMB SHIT!! And if you don't, I'm gonna find you and I'm gonna beat you so badly that not even your momma can't identify you! LEARN ENGLISH!


Homer

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big wrds for a lil man U ass lol

jk, if it really makes u feel better next time ill TRY and remeber not to use abbrevations

I think they probably did it. However, I seriously doubt that they were the first. Methinks this has been going on for some time.

Nox

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big wrds for a lil man U ass lol

jk, if it really makes u feel better next time ill TRY and remeber not to use abbrevations

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YOU ARE THE WORST OF ANY OF THEM!
I SWEAR IF I EVER SEE YOU IN REAL LIFE, I'M GONNA GO OVER AND KICK YOU IN THE NUTS!

Homer

please forgive me if im not scared of u homer. for starters, im all the way in australia and ur in the 300 block of the 6th level of hell. 2ndly, i would prolly be able to beat the living crap out of u.

Cloning is great, let's spend millions of dollars researching it, then clone a human just so people with moral objections can have it all made illegal. Meanwhile the poor starving Ethiopians wonder why we can't clone lunch.

Unfortunately for them, we have. They had dirt for lunch, and there's plenty more where that came from.

Nox

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I think they probably did it. However, I seriously doubt that they were the first. Methinks this has been going on for some time.

Nox

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I seem to recall a scientific group creating a viable human embryo several years ago. It didn't grow to full size - they aborted it after only a few cell divisions - but it seemed to be capable of becoming a whole baby. Are we counting that?

No.

I did not refer to that specific example, but you did jog my memory.

I was alluding to the fact that not all research is publically funded. There are enough ego-maniacs in the world that would fund cloning research so they could reproduce themselves. The concept and the technology have been around for some time and my bet is that we already have clones among us ... and some of them are beyond the diaper stage. Now that's a conspiracy.

Nox

It is hard to believe that on their first try this Clonaid sucessfully cloned a Human. In most cases the Fetus would have abnormalities and be horribly difigured.

I think that this claim is bullshit and is a big publicity stunt. I want to see visual proof and then I will believe.


I do think that the government has been expirimenting with cloning and has just not revealed it to the public so there wouldn't be a commotion and a ban on cloning.

Though i feel a full Human clone is unethical, Cloning things such as stem cells is to Beneficial to the human race to pass up.


But you will never know what will happen with this asshole in office.

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But you will never know what will happen with this asshole in office.

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It would be the moron who preceeded him that started it.

Nox

Nox, Are you a republican?

It seems that you are. The last time i checked during the Clinton administration none of these problems were occurring.

I believe the world sees George Bush as a weak leader and are takin adavntage of this to exploi and cause problems.

For example notice the increase of terrorism. When clinton was in office there were peace treaties in Israel not suicide bombings.

Bush also has the habbit of blaming all the problems of his administration on Clinton.

Isn't that a little absurd?

it's really not that difficult to clone animals. you just have to get past the ethical issues of having many aborted samples until one finally takes. if they did produce a clone, i guarantee there were at least 50 failed trials. Even twice that number wouldn't be unlikely.

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Nox, Are you a republican?

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No. I am a flaming Independent who truly hates Clinton.

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The last time i checked during the Clinton administration none of these problems were occurring.

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The occurred, they were not reported. Just like the last year of the Clinton administration slipped into recession which Billy Bubba denied (as usual).

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I believe the world sees George Bush as a weak leader and are takin adavntage of this to exploi and cause problems.

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Possibly. I view it more as the press than the government. Case in point, look at the world governments lined up against Iraq.

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For example notice the increase of terrorism. When clinton was in office there were peace treaties in Israel not suicide bombings.

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At what price? I will never forget Albright literally chasing after Arafat. Made me ashamed to be an American. Also, don't forget the White House fund that Billy never accounted for its distribution. However, I think it is of greater importance the leadership in Israel. Old Yassar was offered everything he had previously asked for ... rejected it and wanted more. This is one thing I don't blame Billy for. That one is pure Arafat.

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I haven't noticed that. What I have noticed is that Billy Bubba is constantly trying to rerefine his legacy and making some pretty stupid lies along the way.

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Isn't that a little absurd?

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In terms of Clinton, yes.

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No. I am a flaming Independent who truly hates Clinton.


Nox

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ahahahahahahahhaha nox you're alllllright!!

I share your passionate hatred of the Clinton adminsistration, and I agree with most of the points you made - what I fail to understand is why you think the Bush adminsitration is so much better. I may be mistaken, but it seems to me that you've been applying Dubya is some sort of moral American hero who's come to the White House to save America and undo the horrible damage done by Clinton.

The way I see it, at least so far, is that the Bush administration is continuing CLinton's legacy. Tell me exactly how things have significantly changed, I'm curious.

First off, the Oval office has dignity ... no shirt, no tie, no coat ... no entry (Monica clones not allowed either). Real Black folks in real positions of power ... unlike Commerce (Brown) and Agriculture (Espy) [Both of whom were outright criminals]. No hiding behind Janet Reno and an attempt to clean up the INS. I could keep going but this is enough for now. Having said all this does this make George W. a great President? Not yet. I wish he would make more National speeches to explain his positions instead of road speeches and hope that the News media will cover them ... which they do, they don't report.

Nox

It's time to revive this topic and get back to the subject.

I just heard that the woman who claims to have had herself cloned, is now refusing (after first having agreed to same) to provide DNA samples to prove cloning. It appears that this entire episode is a great con to get publicity for a previously 'unknown' cult.

Viva la press corps!

Nox