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#1
 2002-12-24, 03:48
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ardene 
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free speech
um i was hearing about how free speech isnt all its crakced up to be. ie. this person starts protesting and yelling vulgare words out and using his "Free speech" isnt he opposing other poeple free speech? i froget how it works but its kinda like enforcing a belief on another person. I member me and this kid got into and argue about it. i forget what it was about cause im tired.
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#2
 2002-12-24, 04:10
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Re: free speech
That doesn't make much sense. Hearing someone doesn't impose the belief on someone.
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#3
 2002-12-24, 05:03
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Armed&Angry 
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Re: free speech
You don't "force" your beliefs on others unless you actually us force (i.e. a gun, a knife, a gulag archipelago, etc.) to do so. Simply yelling things isn't forcing your beliefs on others, because they can still decide you're a moron.
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#4
 2002-12-24, 06:15
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ardene 
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Re: free speech
um im saying when you read this baord yoy have choice of reading it by clicking. I said I forget how it worked.But when somone starts yelling SWEARS and other stuff at you isnt that a violation?you dont have a choice then we the person starts doing that stuff
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#5
 2002-12-24, 09:57
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Re: free speech
If I was standing next to you I'd be screaming "fuck you" at the top of my voice.
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#6
 2002-12-24, 15:15
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Vox 
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Re: free speech
God forbid someone yell SWEARS at you.
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#7
 2002-12-24, 15:35
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Re: free speech
freedom of speech... something tells me you don't really know what that is??? in north america we have these rights. jsut like freedom of expression.( if u dont like it dont listen or watch) if u dont like what a person has to say thats your opinion, you can choose weather to keep it to yourself or push it on them as they are doing to you. therefore this recipricates. adn you're doing to them what u didnt like in the first place so does this make your view right?? in this new age we have many freedoms but are we really free? to some extent yes but we will always have one hand inthe shackle.
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#8
 2002-12-24, 15:36
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Re: free speech
I'm going to have to censor you for taking the Lord's name in vain. This is for the good of the general population, whose aural autonomy you just violated. And we do have moral standards to enforce, you know. *censors self for colloquial use of "you know"*
Maybe ardene has no problem with expletives but a phobia of the words "swears"
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#9
 2002-12-24, 16:22
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brainuser 
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Re: free speech
If you want to see the state of free speech in America, look at the reaction to Trent Lott's comments.
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#10
 2002-12-24, 18:32
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Re: free speech
Exactly. Others have a constitutionally assured right to verbally pogo up and down on Trent's career because he cocked up a compliment 
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#11
 2002-12-24, 22:08
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artzy1989 
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Re: free speech
So what do u want to happen if someone swears at u? should they go to jail for saying a few inecent words (ok, so their not "inecent")?
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