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| Politics: Left, Right, and Center National, state, regional, and local politics. Who's doing what to whom, and what you can do about it. How-to-get-action messages are encouraged. "How the government fucked up my life" stories are encouraged. Sharing new methods for cheating on taxes is encouraged. Sample "letters to congresscritters" are encouraged. Apathy and "I can't do anything" posts are discouraged. Left, right, centrist, or any other form of political-economic systems are all up for discussion. Be prepared to defend yourself, or at least have a good line of bullshit ready. Extensive quoting of economists and philosophers is frowned upon. We want to hear what YOU have to say, not what some constipated, impotent, dead guy dreamt up while suffering from the DT's over a hundred years ago thought. |
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#1
 2002-12-19, 02:04
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kingenrage 
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who will get these first
What is the % of native Americans left in the terretory of the usa?
What priviledges have they got after beeing almost wiped out by big white angry man?
How many died?
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#2
 2002-12-19, 16:05
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Global Dominator 
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Re: who will get these first
% of Native Americans as opposed to...?
Although they do have a few privileges, I'm sure they would rather have their country back.
No one will ever know how many died in the stealing of their land. But to be fair, they were killing each other off for centuries, stealing each other's land.
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#3
 2002-12-19, 17:24
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kingenrage 
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Re: who will get these first
opposed to todays population
No one will ever know how many died in the stealing of their land. But to be fair, they were killing each other off for centuries, stealing each other's land. Until we came and killed them all and took everything
Do you understand better why Usa helping Isreal? Cuz life is so much better without the " vermine ". ( ppl who want to keep some land for them selfs )
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#4
 2002-12-19, 18:21
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Re: who will get these first
Perhaps you didnt hear. Nordic skull in Mexico, 13,000 years old- older than any Injun skull ever found in the Americas. America is no different than any other continent, and like any other creature on the face of the earth since the dawn of time, their claim to anything is only as strong as their ability and will to defend it.
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#5
 2002-12-19, 18:38
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Sol463 
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Re: who will get these first
quote: Originally posted by kingenrage: What is the % of native Americans left in the terretory of the usa?
What priviledges have they got after beeing almost wiped out by big white angry man?
How many died?
They got the shitty land that our ancestors didnt want and casinos, whos laughing now? Eh, eh, eh?
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#6
 2002-12-19, 19:08
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Craig J 
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Re: who will get these first
I believe my ansestors were wrong in how they took the land but that has been many years ago and there really isnt a way to rectify this problem than to learn to live with one another the best we can.
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#7
 2002-12-19, 21:03
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ChuckStone 
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Re: who will get these first
1) 0.9 million Native Americans out of 281 million total population (figures from the 2000 census)
That's 0.32%
2)Legally they are citizens - yet seem to suffer a lot from racism and there's the problem of massive suicide rate, but that's not a legal issue, it's a sociological issue.
3)Given that the Colonists ahd ZERO respect for the "barbarian" Natives, it is unlikely they made any tally of casualties on the Indian side. Also, there was countless unregistered massacres and skirmishes - so it is probably impossible to give an accurate figure - and who needs guesses?
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#8
 2002-12-19, 23:40
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HomerJay603 
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Re: who will get these first
First of all, the native american thing was a long time ago, there is little use in lamenting about it right now. Second of all chuckie boy, you seem to have a very elitist view of this because you are not american. It was English people for hundreds of years who were killing native americans. Many times it was English-trained millitary personel coming over here and doing the slaughter. This was no less true in Englands several other colonial possessions. The Aboriginees (I appologise for my spelling) in Australia were driven off cliffs by english soldiers. Although to a much smaller extent than the lowest parts of the american continent, Native americans were slaughtered for years in Canada, or forced to move more north to places where no one wanted to live. In india, forced religious conversions were the pick of the day (many involving horrible torture). No western-european country / North american country deserves to be venerated for their sins against the previous owners of the land they [used to] occupy and/or own. England is not much worse than the US. So seriously ChuckStone, the only reason that you sit on that high moral horse is that your people no longer live on the land that you slaughtered for, those countries have split off into their own countries.
Homer
[This message has been edited by HomerJay603 (edited 12-20-2002).]
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#9
 2002-12-20, 15:46
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Global Dominator 
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Re: who will get these first
Score one for Mr. HomerJay.
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#10
 2002-12-20, 17:03
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ChuckStone 
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Re: who will get these first
Yes HomerJay. You are correct, which is the reason I hate the English too (the fuckers are everywhere around here). I must however point out that the guys who murdered the indians were your ancestors, while MY ancestors were the ones BEING persecuted by the English. Although not as recently as the Reds.
Your comment about England being "not much worse than the US" is not true, they are much worse than the US - or at least WERE worst than the US ARE, if you catch my meaning. Yes the English used to kill Aboriginees for sport, and I think the colonists only killed for war. PLUS the English wacked the Zulus and the real Indians too.
But our imperialist days are gladly over but for a few principalities which are subsequently only populated by Brits anyway (Falklands and Gibraltar) and we can't get rid of Gibraltar if we wanted to (and we do).
You see MY people (as in the people I am descended from) have never fought the Indians - although some of them have fought the English. (the South Welsh often migrated to places like Sheffield and Newcastle due to the similarity of the 3 areas)
PS, do I get a prize then?
[This message has been edited by ChuckStone (edited 12-20-2002).]
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#11
 2002-12-20, 20:15
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HomerJay603 
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Re: who will get these first
My ancestors were off in Italy during the entirety of the "indian" wars, and who gives one tenth of a shit what someone's ancestors did? You should never be judged by the crimes of your father, only by the crimes of yourself.
This brings up the point that the US is commiting crimes right now, and for that I am truly sorry, because as a minor, I am doing everything I can to see that the US crimes stop.
To solve this problem, I propose we start a utopia on some secluded pacific island. (If we kill off all the natives, we should be able to live in peace)
Homer
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#12
 2002-12-21, 02:37
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kingenrage 
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Re: who will get these first
its because it was done before and was over-looked by te world that Isralyes are dong this now. and USA is fucking arming them. why to get fuel. This must be something u must have head a 1000 times but its true. what else could they want ? the country's safety? the have enough. and even with all posible weapons they could not elliminate the entiere terrorist threath.
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