Not all Jews are warmonging two faced Zionists.
http://www.jewsagainsttheoccupation.org/

The stereotype is still useful though, because it's applicable to the majority. I didn't bother reading your link either. What kind of an idiot would think that these people didn't exist?

To denounce stereotyping as some kind of foul act, and basing the reason on a numerical technicality is just stupid.

Not all teenage yankee liberals are dumbshits either...

The stereotype only applies to a minority of Jews. The majority aren't all members of JATO, but they're far from Zionists.

The majority would object to twisting shut the spigot that they've jammed into the US treasury. It doesn't matter what you call them, their motive is to loot.

Would you defend the people in my state, if we had somehow managed to siphon off the lion's share of federal tax dollars? Oh, that's right, the sole determining factor in your choosing of sides is: "who is the underdog".

No its not, its who is not white. White people are the underdog in a lot of situations, and he favors the duskier.

When convinced that non-whites are still the underdog even when gaining the upper hand.

When you say "gaining the upper hand" what exactly do you mean by it?

Why are jews discussed so much on forums?
Honestly i would like to know because i keep seeing jewish topics, and they never end either, when one jewish topic is dead another comes up, whats the deal?

Because they are an easy target to blame for the worlds miseries, just like america, although I know that there are people here who see the two as interchangable. There is a big jewish "conspiracy" crowd here on totse and whenever something goes to shit, it somehow manages to trace all the way back to the jews.

Jews have been hated from the beggining of time, from the babylonians to today. There must be a reason because people would get bored being racist to the same people year after year. So can someone tell me why people hate jews?
I understand why they would hate them today (palestine and all that)
But why have they been hated always?

Culture of Critique

This is a book everyone should read if they just "don't get it".

They didn't have a host nation, and their religion wasn't dogmatic enough to justify their going to lengths to achieve power the way Christians and Muslims did. Basically, Jews had no power in Christian/Muslim controlled world, so wherever they went, they were hated.

Jews were a minority group throughout history, and minority groups tend to be unpopular. The Jews keen sense of cultural and racial identity and refusal to assimilate contributed to the problem.

Strangely, many of the most comitted opponents of Zionism wish their own race exhibited such traits.

Why can't the details of a people's history be irrelevent, when they're fucking you TODAY?

NukeChild, some of us think that jewish influence in US politics, undermines the country's future. And since the government is a representative type, then the problem becomes a societal one.

Go to the CIA factbook and look at the economics of our relationship with Israel. Aid is in the billions, and the thanks we get? Sacrificing our peace and prosperity for their shitty little turf war. On a personal note - I find that a lot of them reek of unearned arrogance.

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Originally posted by FuckOffandDie:
Strangely, many of the most comitted opponents of Zionism wish their own race exhibited such traits.

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It's not strange at all. Cohesive group strategies will always prevail over atomized individuals. Jewish activists and intellectuals have always pushed to create atomized gentile societies because a united and nationalistic gentile society is a danger to them.

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Originally posted by user X:
---------------------------------------------Go to the CIA factbook and look at the economics of our relationship with Israel. Aid is in the billions, and the thanks we get? Sacrificing our peace and prosperity for their shitty little turf war. On a personal note - I find that a lot of them reek of unearned arrogance.[/B]

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That shitty little turf war happens to keep the Arabs weak and vulnerable so they suck up to the USA and the USA get cheap oil. The USA doesn't need a few billion dollars a year, they have too much money to care anyway.

No, fuck you, because that's my money. And you're wrong to think that pressure on Palestine keeps the Arab world on it's heels. The Palestinians are real low in the Arab pecking order, socially and politically. Any effect of the Palestinian war, is transmitted to the other Arabs by way of hurt cultural pride. The outside Arabs don't come to their aid militarily, just financially. Most of them live in relative peace. It doesn't make them weak.

We get cheap oil? Fucking OPEC damn it! OPEC raises prices. War raises prices. Tensions raise prices. The palestinians have a negligable ammount of oil. No offence, but your theory is crap.

I don't find it strange that you admire their "cohesive group strategies". I find it strange that you despise them for it while at the same time wanting your own race to behave in much the same way.

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No, fuck you, because that's my money. And you're wrong to think that pressure on Palestine keeps the Arab world on it's heels. The Palestinians are real low in the Arab pecking order, socially and politically. Any effect of the Palestinian war, is transmitted to the other Arabs by way of hurt cultural pride. The outside Arabs don't come to their aid militarily, just financially. Most of them live in relative peace. It doesn't make them weak.

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What i was gettin at is that if you have a large problem like the Israeli-palestinian conflict in any part of the world it weakens the region.

Israel kept Lebanon very weak by inciting different factions in the 1980 to fight eachother in the civil war. Israel also has occupied the Golan heights of Syria. When you have conflict in a region it weakens all nearby neighbours one way or another, this is why the middle eastern countries do not want a war on Iraq because they do not want more conflict.

Why do you think the USA support Israel? because they get something out of it, and if it's not keeping the Arabs weak then I would like to know what it is.

User x it's not like i want your money to go into Israeli pockets but I meant that the overall economy of the USA does not get affected in a large way because they do not need those few billion dollars.

No, we despise the jews for being jews, which means evil in the final sum. They are evil because they are bad for us. Jews are the reincarnation of destruction and death, while Whites are the reincarnation of creation of life.
That quasi-racial unity existed among the White race BEFORE the jews tampered with it, setting the White race on a course towards oblivion.

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Saturn, shut the fuck up. It looks like you're whole supremicy thing isn't as much of a political belief for you as it was you wish you were a knight in the middle ages, some sort of medieval heroism complex driven by abandonment issues. Go save a maiden from a dragon, your crap is getting really old.

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Originally posted by FuckOffandDie:
I don't find it strange that you admire their "cohesive group strategies". I find it strange that you despise them for it while at the same time wanting your own race to behave in much the same way.

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Who said I despise them just for acting in a group? I don't "admire" their tribal behavior, I acknowledge it.

I oppose them because their interests are in direct conflict with my own, which is what human beings naturally do when they realize that the success of one group is dependent on tearing down your own.

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Why do you think the USA support Israel?

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The Zionist lobby spends millions a year to keep it that way.

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Originally posted by Blue-Rock:
Jews have been hated from the beggining of time, from the babylonians to today. There must be a reason because people would get bored being racist to the same people year after year. So can someone tell me why people hate jews?
I understand why they would hate them today (palestine and all that)
But why have they been hated always?

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I don�t know about the Babylonians� reasons to hate the Jews, but I do know that the hatred has been "re-invented", or "updated" through history.

A main reason for "white", Christian hate is that the Church Fathers proclaimed that the Jews murdered Jesus. A claim that the Vatican didn�t withdraw until the 1960s.

FoxLeonard

My comments doen't neccessarily apply specifically to you. The insular, self-obsessed, judge by race instead of merit attitude of Jews is often presented as one of the worst traits of the Jews, by people who wish their own race would act more like that.

I can see why people might dislike the Jewish race where they see it comes into conflict with their own. I just don't see the logic in someone who openly advocates repression/murder of other races in favour of whites criticising the Jews for their treatment of the Palestinians, or a supporter of segregation complaining that Jews tend to look after their own first and interact with goyim only to further their own interests.

It's called pointing out hypocrisy, FOAD. When white gentiles oppose massive third-world immigration, support segregation, and don't support miscegenation, etc, they're called horrible fascist racist nazis by Jewish activists such as the ADL-types, yet the same Jewish ADL-types support the same things, but only for Jews and Israel. That's why white gentile activists point out certain behavior of Jews - to make people wonder why these Jews think that a certain type of behavior is OK for them but not for anyone else.

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I don�t know about the Babylonians� reasons to hate the Jews, but I do know that the hatred has been "re-invented", or "updated" through history.

A main reason for "white", Christian hate is that the Church Fathers proclaimed that the Jews murdered Jesus. A claim that the Vatican didn�t withdraw until the 1960s.

FoxLeonard

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Oi VEY! Does the holocaust ever stop? No, the gentiles still have more to GIVE! As Rabbi Yevshitzlwitz said "GAG HACK, GAAAAAAG HACK."

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Oi VEY! Does the holocaust ever stop? No, the gentiles still have more to GIVE! As Rabbi Yevshitzlwitz said "GAG HACK, GAAAAAAG HACK."

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Saturn! I guess you have quoted him verbatim, as you see the dear Rabbi so often nowadays I mean...

Wiecny kwiat silatow!

FoxLeonard

saturn i understand you anti-jew feelings and where they come from. I'd rather be a nazi than a jew too.

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Originally posted by Blue-Rocks:
...a large problem like the Israeli-palestinian conflict in any part of the world weakens the region.

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True, but not to the extent that it causes the Arab world to seek US assistance. Palestine isn't worth the military support of their Arab brethren, and that speaks volumes on their relationship.

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...the overall economy of the USA does not get affected in a large way because they do not need those few billion dollars.

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Yeah... what's a few-billion-here, and a few-billion-there anyway right? It's not like the US treasury is built upon the backs of millions of working people is it? Americans probably shouldn't care that their political machinery has been corrupted either, right?

So, where is "My BIZ" anyway? I bet it's a happy place...
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[In response to FOAD's claim of hypocrisy] Who said I despise them just for acting in a group? I don't "admire" their tribal behavior, I acknowledge it.

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I think it's "admirable". So is the fact that they're better educated; less likely to be criminals; they breed well; and they control a disproportionate volume of resources. These are all factors that make jews an anomaly in the cultural wars.

Jews are very likely to be criminals, but not of the crude violent variety. Jews are more of an "organized crime" type of people. The Russian mafia is actually Jewish, and Jews dominate the Ecstasy trade. Hassidics have also been caught laundering drug money, and a large percentage of the "corporate crooks" are Jews. However, it's true that they don't roam around in packs randomly vandalizing stuff and killing people in the US/Canada, etc. They save that behavior for when they get to Palestine.

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True, but not to the extent that it causes the Arab world to seek US assistance. Palestine isn't worth the military support of their Arab brethren, and that speaks volumes on their relationship.

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Why would Arabs seek US assistance if the USA is the one helping the Zionists and allowing them to survive? Anyway the Arabs are all US puppets and wouldn't want to do too much to disturb the US actions but will do just enough to keep their people quiet.


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Yeah... what's a few-billion-here, and a few-billion-there anyway right? It's not like the US treasury is built upon the backs of millions of working people is it? Americans probably shouldn't care that their political machinery has been corrupted either, right?

So, where is "My BIZ" anyway? I bet it's a happy place...
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1st of all if you have a problem about the government giving all that money to Israel go do something about it, don't compailn to me coz i can't do anything. I certainly don't want that money to go to Israel as it is causing the deaths of many innocent people.

... This isnt 1836. Things happen from the top down again.

how do i make the lines golden?
(the quote lines...)

some ppl hate jews b/c their jelous (eather b/c jews r more educated or b/c of some other reason), some ppl hate jews b/c their diffrent, some ppl hate jews becouse their ant-sisters hated jews. for whatever reason its wrong. its wrong to hate blacks, its wrong to hate muslims, its wrong to hate jews. ppl always look for someone to blame their problems. no-one can do anything about it.

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some ppl hate jews b/c their jelous (eather b/c jews r more educated or b/c of some other reason), some ppl hate jews b/c their diffrent, some ppl hate jews becouse their ant-sisters hated jews. for whatever reason its wrong. its wrong to hate blacks, its wrong to hate muslims, its wrong to hate jews. ppl always look for someone to blame their problems. no-one can do anything about it.

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This is what is wrong with modern public education.

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how do i make the lines golden?
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Look at one of your posts. The third icon is the quote icon. Each poster has 3/4 icons and the last one set up to quote option. It also gives you the reply page. If you are going to reply to multiple portions of the quote, use the edit function of your tool bar, copy the quote, and edit out the portions between the b and /b (it wouldn't let me use the bracket symbols) and reply to that portion. Then paste the whole quote and start again.

Hope that helps.

Nox

put the words you are quoting in between two ubb tags like this

[QUOTe] Huh? [/QUOTe]

I don't see what the trouble is. My posts are always golden.

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Look at one of your posts. The third icon is the quote icon. Each poster has 3/4 icons and the last one set up to quote option. It also gives you the reply page. If you are going to reply to multiple portions of the quote, use the edit function of your tool bar, copy the quote, and edit out the portions between the b and /b (it wouldn't let me use the bracket symbols) and reply to that portion. Then paste the whole quote and start again.

Hope that helps.

Nox

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ok lets see if this works...
thx for the help guys.

Send him out for a brain too.

If the US was after cheap oil the best way to do it would have been to have let isreal entirely alone, let the arabs do what they would to the country and to play the sunni and the wahabi of the shiite like we were doing so well in iraq and Iran. Supporting the jews unified and unifies the arabs and their extremest factions against us.

Alan! where the hell have you been?

Who's the biggest modern user of chemical weapons and torture? The US. Your president can't even string a sentence together. He IS Satan. In Europe, we see photos of Palestinian children shot in the back of the head. Don't see that in your papers, do you? Who the fuck do you think you all are? Oh, by the way, I've invited some Iraqis to come over and examine your cluster bombs and other assorted Nazi-style evil you have. By the way, I'm English, white, Christian. You are pure EVIL. Fuck off back to your own country. (Sorry, you can't, can you? You haven't got one). By murdering Bush, I would be preventing a greater evil. Therefore the European Court of Human Rights would find in my favour.