Billy Roper, the Chairman of "White Revolution" (www.whiterevolution.com) and
organizer of the event, stated that "Any White person who is concerned about
the possibility of more Americans dying either here or abroad because of U.S.
support for Israel, or who thinks that we ought to take care of our own before
we send six billion of our hard-earned tax dollars a year overseas to fund
more state-sponsored terrorism, is welcome to join us on November 9th and help
send a message to the terrorists and warmongers who want to bleed our country
dry: Just Say No!".

Roper's position is that U.S. support for Israel is a result of jewish
predominance in the mainstream media and jewish influence in the U.S.
government, and that that support makes U.S. citizens the target for
terrorism by foreign extremists.

Pro-Israeli groups, including a University of Florida student organization
calling itself "Gators For Israel",will be counterdemonstrating against the
White Nationalists and have plans to publicly burn American flags in order to
demonstrate their loyalty to Israel and their opposition to Americans who want
to end U.S. aid to Israel. Past demonstrations by White Nationalists have led to sometimes violent clashes between themselves and counterdemonstrators.
Roper has stated that if any of the pro-Israeli counterdemonstrators attempt
to burn an American flag Saturday, his hope is that the police would arrest
them, but if not, he did not discount the possibility that members of his
group would attempt to physically stop the flag burnings.

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Roper's position is that U.S. support for Israel is a result of jewish
predominance in the mainstream media and jewish influence in the U.S.
government, and that that support makes U.S. citizens the target for
terrorism by foreign extremists.

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Correct. And, this view will never get any airtime by all the news pundits. Everyone is free to say "They hate us for our freedom" but not "They hate us because we fund their enemies".

Mouse!

In reference to our earlier discussion:

This part of the general political picture of Israel and Israeli/Jewish lobbying/influence is openly
debated in Swedish media. Mostly in the bigger news-papers, but also on television, from time to time.

FoxLeonard

It's common knowledge to everyone but Americans. My husband and I have an inside joke about the American media... Rule number one - You do not talk about Jew Club. Rule number two - You do not talk about Jew club...

I would quite enjoy demonstrating on this topic but there are 2 snags:
1: I am a minor
2: I would never demonstrate for anything called "white revolution"
Jesus christ, that's 2 steps from the klan.
Racism = bad.
The american support is not a race issue, it is a political issue, and people like you make all of us anti-israel people look like a bunch of inbread, ignorant, squirrel-fucking mountain people. I would rather stand with gators for israel than you as long as there is a remote chance of me being able to cornhole one of you neo-nazi "white power" fucks.

Your name makes sense 0, because that is all you are.

GO TO FUCKING HELL

homer

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Racism = bad.

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How do you define racism?

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Originally posted by TheMouse:
How do you define racism?

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Thinking that your particular ethnic group or religious group is better than another for no logical reason.

To believe that other ethnic groups are evil.

To belong to any group with the word "white" in it.

Homer

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Thinking that your particular ethnic group or religious group is better than another for no logical reason.

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Are you aware that most ethnic groups and religious groups prefer their own over others?

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To believe that other ethnic groups are evil.

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Who do you think does this the most?

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To belong to any group with the word "white" in it.

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It's funny that you would single out whites who join a group for whites. How about any group with the word "Jew" "Black" or "Mexican" in it? Do you think it's evil for people to group together with their own ethnic group to support their own interests?

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Originally posted by TheMouse:
It's funny that you would single out whites who join a group for whites. How about any group with the word "Jew" "Black" or "Mexican" in it? Do you think it's evil for people to group together with their own ethnic group to support their own interests?

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If they support their own interests over the interests of other ethnic groups, then they do suck.
No, I do not think that groups that have "mexican" etc. in it are any better than those with "white." That was satire.
I guess that the best test of a racist group is whether or not they would let in members of other groups. For instance, the KKK would never let in a black person, but the NAACP does have white members.

Homer

Do you think a Christian group should be forced to admit Wiccans and Muslims?

Why do you think it's evil to discriminate whom you want to hang out with?

A group should be allowed to admit whomever they want in their group. It is the freedom of association. Its not a bad thing that we have groups with the word Jew, Mexican, or White in the title. It is wrong, however, when these groups are formed with the intent of dammagin the property of others. The Klan is scum, but as long as they don't harm my person or property, they can keep rallying and driving their pointy heads even further up their asses.

I retract my statemement about association.

but the simple fact is that white power groups (no worse than black power, mexican power, etc groups) complain about greviences that do not exist against the white race. White people suck.
White power groups are full of dumasses.
That is my point, and my entire point.

homer

"White people suck."

I thought you said racism is bad, yet here you make this completely racist statement. For shame!

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Originally posted by TheMouse:
"White people suck."

I thought you said racism is bad, yet here you make this completely racist statement. For shame!

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As a white person, I have the right to be racist against white people.
In fact, all ethnic groups have the right to be racist against white people, because white people suck.

Homer

Yet, nothing bugs me more than when two black people call each other nigger and not a single person cares.

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I call my friends "cracka" and "whitey" and I don't give one tenth of one shit, but if a black guy called me that, I would consider him an ass.

Let black people call each other what they want. stop your bitching.

Homer

I'm not saying they shouldn't call each other whatever they want, but to then come down hard someone else whenever they use the word is hypocritical and a complete denial of the connotation of the word.

You sir, are a dumass.
They come down hard whenever someone else uses the word because when they do it, they do it out of racism, when black people do it, it is nothing.
coming down hard on the racists is not hypocrytical, it is the only thing to do.

Homer

I'm not saying that they should not come down hard on racits, but what I am saying is that the majority of the time, people are going by the denotative meaning rather than the connotative one and not stoping to question which one is being used.

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Originally posted by HomerJay603:
As a white person, I have the right to be racist against white people.
In fact, all ethnic groups have the right to be racist against white people, because white people suck.

Homer

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So, you don't actually think racism is bad. You're just hate your own race, therefore hate the idea of other white people being proud of their race.

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When black people use the word �nigger� its because they�re reclaiming racist words.
It�s a label placed on them by white racist assholes usually.
By using the word nigger to describe yourself you�re saying �you call black people niggers? well I�m black and proud so fuck yeah I�m a nigger and I�m not taking shit off you cos of my skin colour�

Gay lads I know call �emselves �poofs� because they�re doing the same thing, it takes away the threat and the condescending tone added when bigotted fuckwits use it.
In the same way that if I call myself �white boy� you know I�m fucking about.

White power people are assholes whose politics don�t usually make sense, they thrive on hatred and jealousy and sticking people into little stereotypical boxes. By doing this they restrict peoples freedom, including my own.
The fact that I�m recognised as �white� means that certain character traits are subconsciously ascribed to me that might not be given to someone else.
That�s fucked up and it�s a pre-judgement of me.
It also means that my best friend might be thought of differently to me just cos he�s got a better tan than me.
It�s stupid and I hate it.
Any anti-racist should be aiming for irrelevance not equality.
I have in the past bottled national-socialists who have not said a word to me. That�s cos they�re facists and as such are very pro-state, I regard the state as oppressive and against my interests, any action now is what your president calls �pre-empative� action and its in my self-defence as well as the rest of my race.
That race is known as the human race and is comprised of people of all genders,sexses,colours and religions.
Except nazis who manage to fall out of the bottom somewhere due to their unusually small brain size and intellect.

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Originally posted by TheMouse:
So, you don't actually think racism is bad. You're just hate your own race, therefore hate the idea of other white people being proud of their race.

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That is possibly the stupidest thing I have ever heard. As a whole, white people are ignorant of racial inequalities that do exist, but see inequalities against other white people, and thus SUCK.
White power people have NOTHING to be proud about. They belong to a race of people who instinctively opress and devalue, as well as one who has a sick fascination with mayonaise.
White power is just a bunch of dumasses who somehow actually believe that the white race is in any way being opressed or that the white race has any less than total and complete equal rights.
This is bullshit.
Those people are idiots.
You are an idiot.

Homer

White people have nothing to be proud about? Now thats pretty stupid too. I hate to call down the dragon himself, but SaturnRocketx would tear you a new one over that line, but then again, so could anyone with a history book.

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They belong to a race of people who instinctively opress and devalue,

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I thought that all our riches were built on the concept that we added value. In an of itself, this is another blanket generalization and a faulty view of how the world works. You can say whatever you want about colonialism and imperialism, but those have no relecanve in todays world. I could end this post with a series of explatives or deragatory comments, but i will restrain myself from doing that. Whoops, looks like I just stopped that instinct to opress.

"White power people are assholes whose politics don�t usually make sense blah blah blah..."

"As a whole, white people are ignorant of racial inequalities that do exist, but see inequalities against other white people, and thus SUCK.
White power people have NOTHING to be proud about. They belong to a race of people who instinctively opress and devalue, as well as one who has a sick fascination with mayonaise.
White power is just a bunch of dumasses who somehow actually believe that the white race is in any way being opressed or that the white race has any less than total and complete equal rights."


I think you two should try debating some of those "white power idiots" here. Try it, and we'll see who gets ripped a new one.

I will indeed.
and nukechild, WHAT THE FUCK??!?!?!?!?
I think you need to get an instinct on how to make some goddamn sense. I will debate anyone on the issue of white people sucking/not sucking, because there is NOTHING that white people have to be proud about. especially those southern fuckers. they should be systematically eliminated simply for the purpose of destroying country music.

Homer