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#1
 2002-10-31, 19:40
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kingenrage 
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killing civs
I cannot belive the amount of importence some of u atribute to killings Of "inocent civilians" If a group or a person has a grudge against a nation they will not always slect military personel. They migth be armed and migth be better prepared to situations of stress. Or they may not be around. It is much easyer to kill civs. And it does double the damage wanted. Solders get killed in a war. Civs in attacks.
It does more damage killing Civs. just look at how much media coverage a death of a civilian gets. Compare it to the deaths of the solders about wich we dont even hear.
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#2
 2002-10-31, 19:54
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YouAreNotYourKhakis 
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Re: killing civs
quote: Originally posted by kingenrage: I cannot belive the amount of importence some of u atribute to killings Of "inocent civilians" If a group or a person has a grudge against a nation they will not always slect military personel. They migth be armed and migth be better prepared to situations of stress. Or they may not be around. It is much easyer to kill civs. And it does double the damage wanted. Solders get killed in a war. Civs in attacks.
It does more damage killing Civs. just look at how much media coverage a death of a civilian gets. Compare it to the deaths of the solders about wich we dont even hear.
That doesn't change the facts that they are innocents. That is exactly what causes people to fear it. If they think, I could die the next time I go outside to get the mail, it causes wide spread panic.
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#3
 2002-10-31, 22:29
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Global Dominator 
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Re: killing civs
Your argument misses the mark. I always thought if a terrorist/nut-job/foreign entity attacked a military target it was fair game. They should have been on the ball, after all, they're in the military.
But for a terrorist to attack a civilian target that is the apex of gutless bitchdom. It isn't like the WTC had surface to air heatseekers on the roof, the only thing they had was windows to look out of and watch death coming in at 500mph.
The attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941 may have come before there was a declaration of war but it was a military target, somebody should have been watching out. It wasn't like nobody knew something was on the wind.
I knew people in the Michigan Militia back when the Oklahoma bombing went down. I informed them I thought it was the most no-balls thing I had ever seen up until then, and from that point on they should run if they saw me. Attacking a civilian target is like beating up your woman, absolutely no risk to yourself. Attacking someone who has the ways and means to defend themselves is a whole 'nother story.
I wonder why OBL didn't just whack the school for the blind, or maybe the home for unwed mothers, hell...there is a humane society in almost every town...why not just kick a dog.
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#4
 2002-10-31, 22:46
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YouAreNotYourKhakis 
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Re: killing civs
Perhaps, but that might make the country hate him more than he was looking for. He was looking for fear over hate. Showing the US that he could take all of those lives in one instance was supposed to scare us silly. Didn't work though...
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#5
 2002-11-01, 02:57
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kingenrage 
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Re: killing civs
Yeaa but look at it this way. Would you prefer to pick a figth with someone stronger and more leathal then you or someone you will easily dominate? unless u really want a chalenge or u wana be a martyr ull go for the easy target. Wich in this case is more davastating. Why should someone prefer killing a military over innocent civs? And as someone added it spreads out panic more.
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#6
 2002-11-01, 22:21
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Re: killing civs
Wrongness and Rightness...
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