>>>Immigration laws don't allow Mexicans to live in your house. There's nothing threatening about immigrants living in your town. We're NOT China, and we don't base our existence on a specific way of life. Unless you believe Mexicans are inferior, there's no reason they shouldn't be allowed in the United States. People living in your country isn't threatening the way an invasion is.<<<

I guess you still don't know the difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL is. Is hopping the border by a pregnant Mexican woman just so she can get her kid a green card right? Does it make it right for you to pay her bills instead of footing the bill to Mexico?

>>>why does the fact that we happened to be born here give us more of a right to the country's freedoms then a Mexican?<<<

You answered your own question.

There's nothing threatening about immigrants living in your town.
Tell that to the native who gets laid off because the Mexicans are willing to work for less.

Unless you believe Mexicans are inferior, there's no reason they shouldn't be allowed in the United States.
No reason? What about the homeless we already have? No, no, they don't matter, let's just create more. They won't be mexican anyway.

People living in your country isn't threatening the way an invasion is.
You're right, it's not an immediate threat. It is still a threat, however.

What entitles America to native born Americans? We're just Europeans that talk funny, why does the fact that we happened to be born here give us more of a right to the country's freedoms then a Mexican?
Honestly, I didn't know you were that much of a jackass.

I'm a jackass for not believing the people born in the Untied States are higher beings and have some sort of transcendent right to prosper at the expense of foreigners?

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I'm a jackass for not believing the people born in the Untied States are higher beings and have some sort of transcendent right to prosper at the expense of foreigners?

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Americans have the right to prosper in America over foreigners. Their ancestors built the nation for their future generations, not for everyone in the entire world.

Japanese have the right to prosper in Japan over foreigners. Their ancestors built their nation for future generations, not for everyone in the entire world.

British have the right to prosper in Britain over foreigners. Their ancestors built their nation for their future generations, not for everyone in the entire world.

Mexicans have the right to prosper in Mexico over foreigners. They should have built a good nation and society for future generations, but became so heavily compromised by corruption and so bogged down by certain cultural behaviors that they are still suffering because of it. That's tough, but it's up to Mexicans to change that, not Americans.


When it comes to any whites in non-white countries prospering over native non-whites, you claim something needs to be done because the natives deserve better living standards than some rich white dudes who come from America/Europe. I tend to agree. Mexicans in Mexico, Arabs in Saudi Arabia, Africans in Nigeria, Koreans in Korea, etc do deserve to have complete conrol over their own countries and to be free from international financers and military exploits from Western nations trying to gain control over their countries to fleece their wealth.

However, when it comes to white people in their own nations that their ancestors built and fought hard for, you think they should have no more rights than foreigners, even foreigners who break laws by coming over illegally. This is really an unfair double standard.

You seem to want to throw away the rights and living standards of white Americans as "revenge" for the international and military exploits that were waged on behalf of some corporate investors that had nothing to do with the average white American. This concept of the "collective guilt of whites" comes through when job issues are brought up and you have disdain for the right of "WASPs" to have good jobs in their own community, even when you support workers rights to jobs and good living standards for any non-white. You are very concerned about the living standards and rights of non-whites around the world, but seem to not give a hoot about the white working class in your own country. You dismiss their fears of losing more and more jobs or fears of rising crime in increasingly "diverse" areas as "xenophobia" and "elitist".

But only to whites. You should see his posts in "The Unspeakable in Pursuit of the Uneatable"


Please explain why you are such a hypocrite, White Chocolate.

You're claiming that it's the fault of a country's people that they haven't prospered? It's the fault of impoverished Mexicans that there's no employment opportunities for him so he can't feed his family? Mexicans didn't create their government, they were born into it.

Everyone has the right to prosper anywhere they want to and are capable of getting to. If Mexico is incapable of giving someone miedical attention, and they legally enter our country and establish residence, then the US government should pay. Governments are responsible for it's residents, not it's natives.

No. They are responsible for their citizens, not residents. And everyone was just talking about illegal immigrants anyway, I thought that was made clear about 11 times.

>>>You're claiming that it's the fault of a country's people that they haven't prospered? <<<

I'm not making them siesta, or elect corrupt government officals. Isn't prospering against all that you believe in anyway? And whose fault is it that they aren't?


>>>Everyone has the right to prosper anywhere they want to and are capable of getting to.<<<

For the one-hundredth fucking time, ILLEGALS DO NOT HAVE THIS RIGHT!


>>>If Mexico is incapable of giving someone miedical attention, and they legally enter our country and establish residence, then the US government should pay.<<<

Do you have the brain power of a fucking chicken? What the fuck do you not understand about ILLEGAL?

Uncl, you think that the government should pay for any services needed for anyone that just moseys on over from their original country. That reminds me of the common saying my father gave me when I was a wee girl whenever I wanted something and called them "mean" because they didn't buy it for me. He said "Money does not grow on trees".

Think about where the government gets the money to pay for services. It's definately not picked off trees!

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He knows. He just isn't of taxpaying age yet, so it's easy for him to give away other peoples resources.

Illegals don't have the right to enter this country, but it's so hard to get in and succeed legally that people are forced to come illegally. If we were more generous and open with immigration, nobody would come in illegally, and it would be much better for the economy.

And by prosper I don't mean a mansion and 5 cars, I mean a roof, an education, and food.

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Illegals don't have the right to enter this country, but it's so hard to get in and succeed legally that people are forced to come illegally. If we were more generous and open with immigration, nobody would come in illegally, and it would be much better for the economy.

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No one is forced to break laws. This is like saying that I'm charging too much for my car, so people are "forced" to steal it. I also want you to explain how burdening social service programs, higher crime, higher unemployment and lowering wages for original citizens is "better for the economy".

*spams reality*


Mexican Police join Drug Lords

Border Town Residents want protection from Mexican Gangs

Many Immigrants get Tuition break

Migrants unpaid bills Slam Hospitals

Arizona Hospitals food 31million migrants bill

More immigrants on welfare despite reform

Immigrants bypass welfare reform

Hispanic search for better life pushes Durham into poverty

Immigrant care bill unpaid

Officials seek aid for border hospitals

Illegal immigrant charged with sexually assaulting minors

Smuggling women

Ranger killed

A political emergency

The overcrowding crisis in American schools is directly attributable to high immigration

>>>Illegals don't have the right to enter this country, but it's so hard to get in and succeed legally that people are forced to come illegally. If we were more generous and open with immigration, nobody would come in illegally, and it would be much better for the economy.<<<

Lets change this around shall we?

"Ugly, perverted men don't have a right to have intercourse with children, but it's just so hard for them to get laid without paying for it, or not being of sound mind, so that forces them to molest and kill children. If we were more tolerant and give them what they want, We would not have this problem, because child molestation/murders would be acceptable, and our prisons would not be so overcrowded"

There's a difference between pedofiles raping children and hard working people making a living.

Yes, but hard-working people haven't been mentioned. We were talking about Mexicans.

Legal Mexican immigrants work incredibly hard.

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Legal Mexican immigrants work incredibly hard.

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Legal is the key word. legal legal legal. You on the other hand think it's perfectly okay for illegals to expect something for nothing from the government.

I think illegals are forced to come to this country illegally because it's so hard to actually get a green card. If we opened immigration, there'd be so many more legal working Mexicans that illegals won't recieve any benefits.

They arent forced to come here though. They want American poverty, its paradise relative to Mexican poverty.

What makes you think if they were legals they'd automatically work hard?

I don't think Uncl realizes that not every Mexican in the world is some hard-working guy/woman with strong morals. If that were true, Mexico wouldn't be a mess of corruption.

You know what would happen if immigration were easier? More criminals, more cheats, more frauds, more drug smuggling, more bums.

So every white American is a hard working, high standing, honest citizen that loves his country and doesn't do anything illegal?

Being legal will make Mexicans work harder cause it will force them to work harder. They won't be able to evade taxes, and they'd less more restrictions.

Why would Mexicans bring more crime? Are Hispanics more violent and deceptive then whites? Mexicans in this country resort to crime because of their atmosphere and lack of means because of restricted immigration, but because of too much immigration.

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So every white American is a hard working, high standing, honest citizen that loves his country and doesn't do anything illegal?

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No, but when the police force and prisons aren't overburdened with immigrant criminals, then they'll be able to focus on those nativeborn criminals that do commit crimes.

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Being legal will make Mexicans work harder cause it will force them to work harder. They won't be able to evade taxes, and they'd less more restrictions.

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How does one get "less more" restrictions?

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Why would Mexicans bring more crime?

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That's how it works. Don't ask me why. They get into gangs and do crime.

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They aren't deceptive at all. Statistically, they are more violent. Prisons are mostly full of black and chicano criminal gangs.

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This is the silliest excuse for crime I've seen yet. They resort to crime because of their "atmosphere". If it's their "atmosphere" that causes crime, then why would a country want more of them?

Stop talking to uncl. Under no circumstances will he listen to a word not endorsed by Fidel Castro, or think something that might benefit white people. Just dont waste your breath.

Or belittle and smash his ego to nonexistance until he cant argue because his thinking is clouded, and then leaves, ala, me vs messer.

>>>Being legal will make Mexicans work harder cause it will force them to work harder<<<

No, because then they would qualify for welfare. We are training these people to expect something for nothing.

>>>Mexicans in this country resort to crime because of their atmosphere and lack of means because of restricted immigration, but because of too much immigration<<<

Can you find a similar excuse for armed robbers, criminals, rapists, child molesters, and racial extremists?

>>>They won't be able to evade taxes, and they'd less more restrictions<<<


In case you didn't know, because if morons like you, they have hardly any restrictions, and don't pay ANY taxes. California recently had a bill vetoed that would allow them to get their driver's licenses. Next, You will be forced to learn Spanish, then pay billions in tax dollars to get the road signs changed to Spanish. God forbid they learn our language. That's unconstitional to them.


>>>there'd be so many more legal working Mexicans that illegals won't recieve any benefits<<<

You got that backwards, son.

That reminds me of:

Rex: Would you prefer England, Austria, or Rome to rule the world?

Mazda: Rome is not a world power.

Rex: Just choose one.

Mazda: The question is wrong.

Rex: Assuming they were able to...

Mazda: I don't like Empires.

Rex: What does that have to do with the question?

Mazda: Neither.

Rex: ...

Why not?

Mazda: They interfere with ethnic pluralty.

Rex: What's so good about that?

Mazda: It combines positive aspects.

<long debate I don't want to type up>

Mazda: You're just a racist fuck.

You know you're a xenophobe?

Rex: But they don't.

---Punchline Ahead----

Mazda: What have white's invented?

Rex: Aspertane

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Now that I've wasted your time...

They were when they came as immigrants. THey worked hard and earned the right for their descendents to slack off. Some of my ancestors came to this country penniless, and within 15 years they owned sweatshops.

lol, imperial bastard.